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Old 01-21-2013, 03:03 PM   #1
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Default Dan Koppen or JD Walton?

Or do we look at FA/Draft?

Been thinking about the players/positions we need to address this offseason, and I think this is a key one.

I really liked what Koppen did once he was inserted, but he was on a 1 yr deal and isn't getting any younger. That said, I have to believe he was brought in because the staff wasn't happy w/Walton BEFORE his injury.

Do we bring Dan back? Or maybe hope Blake is the eventual answer?

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Old 01-21-2013, 03:09 PM   #2
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:10 PM   #3
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J.D. put a ton of work in last offseason and it showed. I used to think he needed to be replaced, but he seemed like he was kicking ass this year before he was injured.

Resign Koppen, and let them battle it out...I fully expect Walton to win, because he's younger and healthier.
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IDK, I think a guy needs to be on the roster and groomed for his replacement. Walton wasn't trash but Koppen was an instant upgrade. I would hope it is Walton or Blake, that means we can free up a draft pick.

I think MLB and DT should be 1a, 1b, then RB, maybe a slot guy to groom for Stokely and then maybe a safety or CB followed by BPA.
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J.D. put a ton of work in last offseason and it showed. I used to think he needed to be replaced, but he seemed like he was kicking ass this year before he was injured.

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I had the opposite impression. And I felt that once Denver signed Koppen, the writing was already on the wall. I guess we'll find out more next training camp.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:18 PM   #6
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J.D. put a ton of work in last offseason and it showed. I used to think he needed to be replaced, but he seemed like he was kicking ass this year before he was injured.

Resign Koppen, and let them battle it out...I fully expect Walton to win, because he's younger and healthier.
This! But if Barret Jones is available at 28 you have to give it a thought. Kid can play all over the line and dominate. Boring pick, but damn would it make our oline better. Great depth for both C and G.
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This! But if Barret Jones is available at 28 you have to give it a thought. Kid can play all over the line and dominate. Boring pick, but damn would it make our oline better. Great depth for both C and G.
I would love to see us get a guy who can play well at multiple positions along the OL.

I am holding out hope we can get Melton then draft one of the top 2 MLB's on the board but OL is always important and would not be pissed if we used a 1st round pick there.

Anyone think we will try to shop Rameriz since Kuper will get a full offseason to heal up?
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I think much depends on Blake.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:39 PM   #9
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i wasn't fully sold on Jones before the BCS championship game.
at times he's too damn nice, he blocks well and plays the game right but he just didn't have the "mean SOB" in him. but in that game, it came out in a fury, plus he's started 3 BCS title games at 3 different positions and won an lineman award at each position.

if he's there you run to the podium for that Manning insurance.
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I think much depends on Blake.
Correct. It will be interesting to see what happens with him. Seemed like a classic "give him a year to develop" IR stash. I highly doubt they invest a draft-pick in a Center with both Walton and Blake there... Unless Blake is a total bust.
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JD Walton, he is a superior run blocker and every bit as good a pass blocker.
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Im with pricejj and gylenlove I thought I saw improvement in Walton before he went down. Peyton went out of his way a few times to praise him.
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Walton is a very good pass protector.
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Barrett jones fixes our depth issues immediately. Kuper's health is a question mark. Jones can play all the spots at a high level.
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Walton was balling really well before his injury. Koppen filled in
really well and there was literally no change in play level, but I
don't think he was an upgrade. Walton had his problems the previous 2 years, but not this one.

While improvement at any position is always something you look for, I don't think a high draft pick needs to be invested at Center. Assuming Walton comes back healthy, and we resign Koppen as insurance again, then Blake comes back healthy, we stick with what we have here, and let the chips fall during camp. BPA at LB, DT, CB then OL.

And as far as Koppen I think he was signed after Blake went down, and our line depth there got to near zero, not because Walton was doing poorly. A smart move in light of Walton going down.

Between Walton and Beadles our two youngsters showed a LOT of improvement on the line.
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Keep them both and look to the draft to help elsewhere.
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Keep them both and look to the draft to help elsewhere.
I agree with this 100%
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When Koppen came in and didn't suck, it made a lot of people who had been critical of him go "aha! clearly he is better than Walton," when really, Walton is just as good if not better at certain things (he seems to be stronger, but that's just my impression). He's also much younger. Roll with Walton.
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I would give Greg Eslinger and call and start polishing the Lombardi.
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When Koppen came in and didn't suck, it made a lot of people who had been critical of him go "aha! clearly he is better than Walton," when really, Walton is just as good if not better at certain things (he seems to be stronger, but that's just my impression). He's also much younger. Roll with Walton.
Walton is definitely stronger, Koppen gets less push in the run game and struggles giving support against really big 1-techs in the pass game, he can handle 0-techs with his technique but people lining up on his shoulder are a problem.
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It just seemed like the whole O-line gelled and worked together as single unit, as soon as Koppen got in there.
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There are bums like Polumbus and Meyers who started on playoff teams this year. I didn't think they would stick.

It is obvious it takes years to become a very good OL man, the fact that Clady and Franklin were able to come in and start their rookie years shows what great assets they are.

I would love to not have to worry about upgrading C, I hope Walton is back and better.
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This. I thought Walton was starting to play real well when he got injured. Koppen played well aslo, just not sure he's got the upside as Walton. Let it all play out in TC and practices.
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There are bums like Polumbus and Meyers who started on playoff teams this year. I didn't think they would stick.

It is obvious it takes years to become a very good OL man, the fact that Clady and Franklin were able to come in and start their rookie years shows what great assets they are.

I would love to not have to worry about upgrading C, I hope Walton is back and better.
Really think about it, if we did get Barrett Jones, we would have 3 big physically imposing men on our oline in Clady, Franklin, and Jones.

3 serious keystones for our oline.
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