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Old 01-08-2013, 12:59 PM   #1
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Default Denver Broncos 2013 Cap Outlook -- Req Style

A thread was recently started reporting that we have $18 Million in cap space going in to next year. I used Spotrac.com to come up with the list of free agents we have this coming year, followed by their salary from 2012. I did this to illustrate how much those players cost, and to consider what players we will likely get rid of, who might need a raise, etc.

I will also factor in players who could be considered cut potential, even though their contracts extend beyond 2013. This is definitely can be up for debate, but I just wanted to make a quick little file for people to be able to use and come up with certain scenarios -- especially if they are wanting to play Armchair GM.

Apologies in advance for the numbers being off in the code (by alignment standards) -- I don't know how to fix it, but I exported it from an Excel file to here. Enjoy. . .

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Denver Broncos 2013 UFA        2012 Salary
 
Ryan Clady        3,500,000
Tracy Porter        3,000,000
Matthew Willis        1,260,000
Kevin Vickerson        1,260,000
Justin Bannan        1,000,000
Keith Brooking        1,000,000
Brandon Stokley        1,000,000
Jim Leonhard        825,000
Dan Koppen        825,000
David Bruton        615,000
C.J. Davis        615,000
 
Denver Broncos 2013 RFA        2012 Salary
Tony Carter        615,000
Lance Ball        540,000
Chris Gronkowski    540,000
Britton Colquitt    540,000
Chris Clark        540,000
Mitch Unrein        415,000
Sealver Siliga        390,000
 
Total of Free Agent Contracts:        18,480,000
So right now it seems that all those players under contract, end up being more than the total rollover we have into the cap next year. Undoubtedly, some of those players won't be back. A guy like Clady, (if he is retained) is going to cost significantly more. We have quite a few starters and role players from this years team whose contracts are ending.

Here are some other players to consider getting rid of to cut costs:




  • DJ Williams -- 6 Million
  • Joe Mays -- 4 Million
  • Mike Adams -- 1.75 Million
  • Caleb Hanie -- 1.25 Million
  • Andre Caldwell -- 900,000
  • Manny Ramirez -- 715,000
  • Julius Thomas -- 555,000

That's another $15,170,000 dollars we could get rid of. . .

DISCUSS!

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Old 01-08-2013, 01:07 PM   #2
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Extend Clady, Vickerson, Bannan, Carter, Colquit, Unrein, Bruton
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I say extend the above as noted by LR...

also redo DJ Williams contract, resign Ramirez and Mike Adams.
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Is this the place for me to say I hate Mike Adams?

Because I hate Mike Adams
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Really like the set up we have going into next year. Clady is the only guy who is going to command a lot of money to re-sign. Porter, Willis, Davis, Ball, Gronkowski and likely one of those UFA DT's won't even be brought back so we don't have to worry about wasted resources on those re-signs immediately. I do also think that several of the guys who are locked in longer than next year will be axed or cut as well. Think we will have a lot of flexibility. I'm diggin' it!
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:29 PM   #7
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How did you forget Joe Mays Req?

Looks like I did a lot of work and they came up with almost an identical number a few weeks later..
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It all starts with Clady. How much is he going to want?
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Since Joe was on IR, his salary wasn't on the list on Spotrac right away. That is another 4 million right there.
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I say extend the above as noted by LR...

also redo DJ Williams contract, resign Ramirez and Mike Adams.
I agree with all you say except for DUI Williams. I say flush that turd, give Woodyard a long term deal as his replacement permanently and draft a new MLB
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DJ reworked his contract prior to the end of his suspension I believe. I dont think we really know what DJ is making right now.

I will REALLY be curious to see what the market dictates for Koppen, Vickerson and Bruton. I would love to see those 3 all back at decent value, but I can see some desperate teams throwing some bad contracts their way.
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Prater would be someone I'd consider redoing or cutting. Unfortunately he just signed his contract so cap hit might be larger. With Manning his importance has decreased and accuracy has been poor this yr.
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If we win the big game most of these ufas will increase in value...some deservedly so. We have some real weaknesses on the oline and eventhe moreso without clady and kopen.

Our real issues are at RB and we need to keep some cap space for 2014 and 2015.

What if Manning decides to play 5 more years?

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Prater would be someone I'd consider redoing or cutting. Unfortunately he just signed his contract so cap hit might be larger. With Manning his importance has decreased and accuracy has been poor this yr.
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Prater would be someone I'd consider redoing or cutting. Unfortunately he just signed his contract so cap hit might be larger. With Manning his importance has decreased and accuracy has been poor this yr.
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The other cap thread is so much better.
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Prater would be someone I'd consider redoing or cutting. Unfortunately he just signed his contract so cap hit might be larger. With Manning his importance has decreased and accuracy has been poor this yr.
I see you put absolutely no value on kickoffs either....where Prater has been the league leader for kickers over the last two years in # and percentage.
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In 2011 Prater was 19-25 (76%) on FG's. In 2012, Prater was 26 of 32 (81.3%) on FG's.

Just sayin.

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Say what you want about Adams but he does not miss many tackles. That is very important. He is a little small when covering other teams TEs and he gives up some catches but after the catch Adams almost always makes the tackle.
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Say what you want about Adams but he does not miss many tackles. That is very important. He is a little small when covering other teams TEs and he gives up some catches but after the catch Adams almost always makes the tackle.
Not only that, but it seems he has developed good chemistry with Moore as the season has progressed.


It would be great to see Quintin Carter step up next season if he is healthy, that is about the only scenario I see where Denver dosent see a decrease in production at the safety position next season. Bringing in a FA, or Rookie to replace Carter means starting from square one even in spite of a more talented replacement. A good example would be Rashad Jones taking over for Yaramiah Bell in Miami, Jones was miserable in 11, and a pro bowl snub in 12. It took a full season for Jones to reach his potential, and Denver will be competing for a championship next season, barring injury, so any setback would be costly.

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In 2011 Prater was 19-25 (76%) on FG's. In 2012, Prater was 26 of 32 (81.3%) on FG's.

Just sayin.

I was going to say he missed more field goals last year.
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DJ reworked his contract prior to the end of his suspension I believe. I dont think we really know what DJ is making right now.

I will REALLY be curious to see what the market dictates for Koppen, Vickerson and Bruton. I would love to see those 3 all back at decent value, but I can see some desperate teams throwing some bad contracts their way.
DJs next years contract is still 7.7. Of which if we cut him 1.7 falls into dead money.
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A thread was recently started reporting that we have $18 Million in cap space going in to next year. I used Spotrac.com to come up with the list of free agents we have this coming year, followed by their salary from 2012. I did this to illustrate how much those players cost, and to consider what players we will likely get rid of, who might need a raise, etc.

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Denver Broncos 2013 UFA        2012 Salary
 
Ryan Clady        3,500,000Resign
Tracy Porter        3,000,000
Matthew Willis        1,260,000Resign depending on additions
Kevin Vickerson        1,260,000Resign
Justin Bannan        1,000,000Meh
Keith Brooking        1,000,000Meh
Brandon Stokley        1,000,000Resign
Jim Leonhard        825,000Bye
Dan Koppen        825,000Resign now
David Bruton        615,000Meh
C.J. Davis        615,000zzzzzz
 
Denver Broncos 2013 RFA        2012 Salary
Tony Carter        615,000Resign/right price
Lance Ball        540,000Meh
Chris Gronkowski    540,000Meh
Britton Colquitt    540,000Resign
Chris Clark        540,000Meh
Mitch Unrein        415,000Resign
Sealver Siliga        390,000
 
Total of Free Agent Contracts:        18,480,000
So right now it seems that all those players under contract, end up being more than the total rollover we have into the cap next year. Undoubtedly, some of those players won't be back. A guy like Clady, (if he is retained) is going to cost significantly more. We have quite a few starters and role players from this years team whose contracts are ending.

Here are some other players to consider getting rid of to cut costs:




  • DJ Williams -- 6 MillionCut salary or goodbye
  • Joe Mays -- 4 MillionGoodbye Joe
  • Mike Adams -- 1.75 MillionResign depth
  • Caleb Hanie -- 1.25 MillionBye
  • Andre Caldwell -- 900,000Bye
  • Manny Ramirez -- 715,000Resign/depth
  • Julius Thomas -- 555,000Goodbye unless kills it in camp

That's another $15,170,000 dollars we could get rid of. . .

DISCUSS!

This all depends on who we bring in during the offseason of course.

If we dont bring in another LBer that can start, then DJ will have to be retained, etc, etc. Same goes for guys like Willis, Bannan, Brooking, etc.
Hopefully we bring in better depth at every position, but resigning these guys will be dependent on those factors.

I wouldnt let go of Vickerson or Unrein though.

Stokely purely because he still gets it done and leadership.

Koppen as well. What a signature signing this past offseason.
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