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Old 02-06-2013, 08:06 PM   #26
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Hagel said it would be the biggest blunder in our history. He said that not about Iraq war which he initially agreed with but about the surge.

He was 100% wrong because at worst the surge wasn't as big of a success as it seems. Maybe Bush did just get lucky with the Awakening as you call it. Either way though Hagel wrong.

I also don't like how he comes off as America has been heavy handed, like we somehow deserve some of the anti america bs we put up with.
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:33 PM   #27
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Sigh. With this one comment you prove that you have no understanding of the issue and have bought in to all the BS.
Ok i will admit that is a bit of rhetoric. How about I take it back and just say he isn't as pro israel as i would like. Also I hate how he was against sanctions on Iran, that is crazy to me. Whatever though its obvious you will support whoever Obama throws out. I loved his pick of Kerry he seems perfect for that job. But Lew for treasury sec? people realize he came up with sequester right? he took tarp money at citibank and paid himself a big fat salary to lose money.

I have serious questions with lew and hagel but love the Kerry for SOS.

Tell me why Lew and Hagel make such great choices taking into consideration the fact Hagel is against sanctions on Iran and Lew has his record at Citibank and with the idea of sequester.
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Hagel said it would be the biggest blunder in our history. He said that not about Iraq war which he initially agreed with but about the surge.

He was 100% wrong because at worst the surge wasn't as big of a success as it seems. Maybe Bush did just get lucky with the Awakening as you call it. Either way though Hagel wrong.

I also don't like how he comes off as America has been heavy handed, like we somehow deserve some of the anti america bs we put up with.
You have your head so firmly planted in the sand, it's just remarkable.
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:48 PM   #29
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You have your head so firmly planted in the sand, it's just remarkable.
Your head is so far up your ass you need a glass stomach to see where your goin.

He this is fun but nothing to do with the fact Hagel has said some troubling things. He will get endorsed by the Senate but really its just more crappy cabinet choices for Obama.
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The impressive thing about the anti-Hagel effort is how politically tone-deaf it is. It’s not just that their opposition is misguided, but they stand to gain nothing from it. No one outside of a small core of hard-liners sympathizes with what Senate Republicans are doing. While they may not be losing any votes over this, they are making sure that all of the moderates, independents, and realists that they have alienated over the last ten years will keep running away from them. Except for dedicated partisans, no one can look at the display most Senate Republicans have put on over the last eight weeks and conclude that these people should be in the majority.
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:45 AM   #31
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You have your head so firmly planted in the sand, it's just remarkable.
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Among the requested materials: the full text and details of several speeches Hagel failed to report to the Senate Armed Services Committee that have since been uncovered.

Fox News Channel on Tuesday reported on two speeches Hagel failed to disclose as requested, including one given in 2008 to the annual conference of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC).

The ADC is a controversial nonprofit whose conference last year featured speakers prominent in the Boycott Divestment Sanctions movement targeting Israel. The 2012 conference also featured an award presentation celebrating an author whose essays include one titled, “Zionism is a form of racism.”

The ADC also has not disclosed the full video of Hagel’s 2008 speech, while refusing to release its tax records as required by federal law.

A reporter for the Free Beacon went to the ADC’s office on Tuesday to request the video, as well as the organization’s most recent Form 990, which lists financial and donor information and which nonprofits must present upon in-person request.

However, ADC Vice President Nabil Mohamad told the Free Beacon that the video was in an “archive” in Maryland and not available. He also declined to provide the group’s 990.
And as we've seen from that Tebow thread a speaker is directly responsible for the views of those he speaks to.
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Republicans won't actually hold this up forever. Hagel will be Def Sec because tradition dictates a president gets to choose his his cabinet. Only a small handfull have actually been denied.

This is more about freshman republicans making a point. At some point though I bet he goes through.

Does anyone doubt there is a reason he left 2 speaches to the most controversial audience out of it? He probably said something really inflamatory.
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Hagel getting filibustered is quite absurd,all cause rethugs wanna get even for hagel speaking out against GWB. Saying what everybody know,that GWB is the worst president since Hoover.
McCain admitted as much in an interview with fox.
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Hagel getting filibustered is quite absurd,all cause rethugs wanna get even for hagel speaking out against GWB. Saying what everybody know,that GWB is the worst president since Hoover.
McCain admitted as much in an interview with fox.
Yeah, what happened to the good old days when a nominee could hop around on the Islamist speaking circuit, do a little innocent Jew baiting here and there, lie about it during Senate hearings and still cruise to easy nomination.
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Yeah, what happened to the good old days when a nominee could hop around on the Islamist speaking circuit, do a little innocent Jew baiting here and there, lie about it during Senate hearings and still cruise to easy nomination.
No surprise you're one of the dumb ones believing the BS about hagel.
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Meanwhile Russian bombers armed with nukes buzzed Guam. Obama really needs to worry about his foreign police. Hagel IMO is a bad choice because he is too soft.

Seriously in the last 6 months N Korea launched a missle over 3000 miles, detonated a nuke and the Russians buzzed Guam with bombers most military experts agree are the ones they have carrying nukes. Obama better nut up and not go Jimmy Carter on us. Drones can't solve all his problems.
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No surprise you're one of the dumb ones believing the BS about hagel.
No surprise that you do not.

Amazing concept that far left loons do not have a clue other than what their bullet points tell them.

The guy is on record, actual video of it and you call it BS.


Aahahahahahahahaha.
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I'm sure Hagel a good American. Not like you have to love Israel to be that. He can probably do this job also it's just he said some stupid things you don't say if you want to be defense secretary but maybe he never considered he would be getting a job like that.

In any event not like he hasn't served his country his whole life.

Still i question the reason Obama picked him. Is it to be a whimp, let Iran get a nuke, placate and stall the American people caring about the issue. Or is hagel the walking softly with Iran and Obama will carry the big stick.
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I'm sure Hagel a good American. Not like you have to love Israel to be that. He can probably do this job also it's just he said some stupid things you don't say if you want to be defense secretary but maybe he never considered he would be getting a job like that.

In any event not like he hasn't served his country his whole life.

Still i question the reason Obama picked him. Is it to be a whimp, let Iran get a nuke, placate and stall the American people caring about the issue. Or is hagel the walking softly with Iran and Obama will carry the big stick.
Hell the only stick carrying nobama is doing is at the Floridian with Tigers old coach. Wonder if his caddy will be white or black.

Hagel is a loser.
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No surprise that you do not.

Amazing concept that far left loons do not have a clue other than what their bullet points tell them.

The guy is on record, actual video of it and you call it BS.


Aahahahahahahahaha.
Please post it,the unedited versions. Hagel would've been McCain's sec. Of state if not for losing in 2008.
It's all BS,McCain came out yesterday & said it was all about hagel speaking out against GWB,the iraq war and bucking the rep party in previous years. The rep party is exercising personal vendetta.
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Meanwhile Russian bombers armed with nukes buzzed Guam. Obama really needs to worry about his foreign police. Hagel IMO is a bad choice because he is too soft.

Seriously in the last 6 months N Korea launched a missle over 3000 miles, detonated a nuke and the Russians buzzed Guam with bombers most military experts agree are the ones they have carrying nukes. Obama better nut up and not go Jimmy Carter on us. Drones can't solve all his problems.
You do realize that Russian have been doing that since 2007? See link (http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe...eut/index.html

And buzzing Guam isn't a big deal, if it serious they would not be able to get close to island because we would shot them done.
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I'm sure Hagel a good American. Not like you have to love Israel to be that. He can probably do this job also it's just he said some stupid things you don't say if you want to be defense secretary but maybe he never considered he would be getting a job like that.

In any event not like he hasn't served his country his whole life.

Still i question the reason Obama picked him. Is it to be a whimp, let Iran get a nuke, placate and stall the American people caring about the issue. Or is hagel the walking softly with Iran and Obama will carry the big stick.
Obama picked him because he trust his judgement and his advice. For the last 4 years he been serving as the chair of President's Intelligence Advisory Board and Intelligent Oversight Board. Meaning he has helped shape US foreign policy and actions.
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Obama picked him because he trust his judgement and his advice. For the last 4 years he been serving as the chair of President's Intelligence Advisory Board and Intelligent Oversight Board. Meaning he has helped shape US foreign policy and actions.
Thats scary because Obamas foreign policy is a disaster IMO. Our relationship with Russia is at a low. Egypt a mess, Libya a mess, Syria a mess, Afghan surge a failure, no progress for Palestinians and Israel.

Whats his biggest foreign policy win? Leaving iraq I guess but that was all Bush jr and his sucessfull surge. A surge Hagel said would be a huge blunder and was against.
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You do realize that Russian have been doing that since 2007? See link (http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe...eut/index.html

And buzzing Guam isn't a big deal, if it serious they would not be able to get close to island because we would shot them done.
Let me ask you this. Did N Korea have a sucessfull launch of a long range missile capable of hitting the USA under any President other then Obama?
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You do realize that Russian have been doing that since 2007? See link (http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe...eut/index.html

And buzzing Guam isn't a big deal, if it serious they would not be able to get close to island because we would shot them done.
In cuts mind everything started when Obama got elected. NK didn't start there nuclear program until Jan. 21 2009,it's Obama's fault the people of Egypt rose up against a dictator.

Cuts problem is his hero GWB is easily the worst president when it came to domestic & foreign policy. He talks about the surge in Iraq as if it was the entire war,when all the surge was was a attempt by GWB administration to fix the COLLOSAL **** UP that was the Iraq war.
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Obama picked him because he trust his judgement and his advice. For the last 4 years he been serving as the chair of President's Intelligence Advisory Board and Intelligent Oversight Board. Meaning he has helped shape US foreign policy and actions.
Considering the hilited area that in its self is enough to disqualify him.

Our foreign policy has been going into the crapper more ever day since nobama has been in charge.

And RINO is is name.
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Thats scary because Obamas foreign policy is a disaster IMO. Our relationship with Russia is at a low. Egypt a mess, Libya a mess, Syria a mess, Afghan surge a failure, no progress for Palestinians and Israel.

Whats his biggest foreign policy win? Leaving iraq I guess but that was all Bush jr and his sucessfull surge. A surge Hagel said would be a huge blunder and was against.


Your pissing into the tide with the far left loonies.

I had not seen this post when I said much the same thing. Again
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Let me ask you this. Did N Korea have a sucessfull launch of a long range missile capable of hitting the USA under any President other then Obama?
They haven't proven they have the capability yet. Yes they have the lift technology (like most modern countries do) but there to more creating offense ballistic system then that.
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They haven't proven they have the capability yet. Yes they have the lift technology (like most modern countries do) but there to more creating offense ballistic system then that.
Like most modern countries do? No most countries can not launch a missile 3000 plus miles. Also N Korea no modern they are a military dictatorship stuck in the past.

They are getting close and Obama needs to do something about it. They have 1 step left Elsid. The time of saying oh they are so far away has come and gone.
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They are getting close and Obama needs to do something about it. They have 1 step left Elsid. The time of saying oh they are so far away has come and gone.
What does Obama do, then?

Nuclear attack?
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