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Denver rolled over 26 million into the Salary Cap in 2012, this made our Cap Total $147.26 Million of money available to be spent, which includes salary and bonus. Denver spent around $137.53 Million this season.. which means there’s about $10 million dollars of Cap Rollover into next season.. this is where I got my $10 Cap Room Number. That’s just rollover money, so this puts the spending mark limit around $131 Million roughly.. the Salary Cap is projected to be about $121 Million for 2013.
Now here is the intricate part which I said requires some pretty extensive research.. below is a list of the players under contract for the Denver Broncos heading into the 2013 NFL season and THEIR SALARY.. take note that this does not reflect the total salary cap number, because it does not include bonuses. I am not privied to what teams pay out for in bonuses prior to the season.. we know that there is typically a signing bonus associated with most contracts, and this guaranteed money gets prorated over the contract for several years. This is why when you go on spot tract you are only able to see Cap Hit for 2012.. in will say Salary, Signing Bonus, Other Bonus.. these numbers added up are what give you your Cap Hit for the year. Manning $20 M Dumervil $12 M Bailey $9 M DJ Williams $6 M Kuper $4.5 M Dreesen, Prater, & Tamme $2.5 M Von Miller $2.28 M Woodyard $2 M Adams $1.75 M Moreno $1.7 M Hanie $1.25 M Ayers $1.06 M Caldwell $900 K DT $836 K Franklin $771 K Ramirez & Hester $715 K Beadles & Decker $575 K Julius Thomas, Moore, Green, Irving, & Harris $555 K Wolfe, Brewer, Malik Jackson, Steve Johnson, Bolden, Trevethan, Holliday, Hillman, & Osweiler $480 K Salary Total Roughly $89 Million So that is a current salary cap hit of $89 Million, this does not include bonuses, again I am not privied to bonuses because I do not have their actual contracts in front of me. But I do know based on viewing the amount of time left on current players contracts, there should not be a significant bonus cap hit… over the length of a time of a contract the cap hit either goes up or comes down, fortunately for us, our players with higher cap hits had more front loaded contracts, and what you see is what you get.. Signing Rookie Players To sign a draft class will count about $7 Million against the cap.. This puts Denver at a $96 Million Cap Hit, this is with the list of players above and our signed draft class.. Remember this does not include the bonus money of players from the long list above, but that $7 million draft class is a very accurate total cap hit gauge. Bonuses As I have reieterated throughout the post, I am not privied to what the entire cap hit will be per player under contract because I do not know what their contract allows for in terms of bonuses. What I do know is the big name free agent who will get a huge signing bonus this offseason that will be prorated over the contract will be Ryan Clady, assuming of course he is resigned. When free agents sign a contract, they care more about the guaranteed money that they will get upfront and no matter if they are injured or not, salary is an after thought. Denver had $30 million dollars of bonuses towards the cap last season. If we assume that number is the same for 2013, then our cap figure is now $126 Million… this includes the entire list of current signed players, our draft class signed, and all bonuses included… This will have Denver with about $5 million to spend towards impending free agents and free agents that will hit the open market. I just want to note I do not think the bonus money will account for some $30 million dollars next season, I expect about $20 million.. which gives us $15 million to spend towards free agency. Impending Free Agents Lance Ball, Justin Bannan, Keith Brooking, David Bruton, Tony Carter, Chris Clark, Britton Colquitt C.J. Davis, Chris Gronkowski, Dan Koppen, Jim Leonhard, Sealver Siliga, Brandon Stokley, Mitch Unrein Kevin Vickerson, Matt Willis, Tracy Porter, and Ryan Clady. Conclusion We are a very fortunate team in the NFL to have such a plethora of skilled young talent.. right now we are paying peanuts for guys who are doing great things on the roster. Regardless of who you think we should resign, who you think we should draft, who you think we should pursue in free agency.. you need to have a firm grasp of where we stand in regards to the cap. Maybe you think some deals should be reworked, maybe some players should be outright cut so we can increase our ability to spend. My best assessment puts Denver with $5-$15 Million towards free agency spending.. that included our own impending free agents as well as whats their on the market. I spent several hours on this.. so make sure when you Draft Gurus use my numbers in your Mock threads, you be sure to give me a shout out, or reference that you got the numbers from me.. Enjoy the numbers and get creative!! |
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So what your saying is DEN has a total of 15 million measly dollars next season to spend on FA?!?!?
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Just use this site for the bonuses.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/denver-br...lvis-dumervil/ Doom's base is 12 million, signing bonus of 423K, and misc bonus of 4.525 million dollars for cap hit of 16,948 million dollars. |
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I was using spot trac and didn't look in top base salaries to know that it showed the bonuses, thank you! Guess I can calculate it out after all!
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From the newly discovered data (thanks DB4L) it looks like I was right about $15-$20 Million in bonuses added to the cap, leaving $15-$20 million cap room.
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How does the dead money buyout work? Looks like a few million dollars comes off the books in 2013 or am I reading that wrong.
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From what I was reading all $5 million of the dead cap space should be off the book in 2013. Denver could have split it up over 2012 and 2013 if they needed the space. But because of the surplus, they absorbed the entire hit this season, clearing it off the books for 2013.
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DJ William's release/trade, more likely the former will clear $6m if it hasn't done so already when he took a paycut this season to $950k.
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So how should Terrance Kinghton contract stack up with Red Bryant?
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The Broncos had just over $12m in caproom as at 1 November 2012 and if the the $4m paycut DJ took came off the payroll as well, that's at least $16m or so rolling into 2013 if they wish to use it. I also believe the $1.6m they got from the Washington/Dallas penalty was held over too so you could say as much as $17.6m available to roll into the 2013 cap year if they wish to do so.
To be honest though it's likely that the majority of that money will likely be used on Clady and a new MLB. Then again approx $9.4m will shoot off the books as soon as DJ and Mays depart, very little/no guaranteed money left on those deals. |
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That's an option if that's your prerogative.. I just laid the frame work, everyone can use it to customize it to their offseason game plan.
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So I think we are looking at $5 million a year for Knighton.. |
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What MLB are you throwing this money at..? Urlacher is the only note able FA MLB. While I like Grant, he's not going to require much money thrown his way..so idk who you had in mind and what kind of money..? |
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I would be cool with Knighton having about a $5 million cap hit.. Especially with his familiarity with Del Rio and how he is a proven player.. But JAX has lots of cap room, I unfortunately don't think he's going anywhere. We could probably retain Vickerson and add Dorsey for that same cap hit.. |
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I was told that DJ for example had a number north of 7.7mil for next year well above your 6 mil number. If you are off that much on him I suspect your 15 mil number for the team is probably closer to Zero.. Which means we have to cut several folks just to sign Rookies.. |
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No base salary is correct.. If you read what I wrote, I originally could not find the bonus numbers but DB4L pointed the top salary out and it included their bonuses. Once I added the bonuses up of current contract players it was between $15-$20 like I had anticipated, this gives about $20 million of cap space.
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Just knowing we were just under Pats cap numbers and with players salary numbers going up each year. I just do not see having that much money left over even if the cap increases. |
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Players currently under contract for 2013.. $104,209K and Change.. 2012 players that will need to be replaced in some manner Unlikely most of these will be cheaper.. Other than Porter who was expensive as a Backup but would have been decent as a starter at $4mil.. $22,609k and change total of the money is $126,818 K and change.. Code:
Base Salary S. Bonus Misc. Bonus Cap Hit Dumervil 2013 12,000,000 423,000 4,525,000 16,948,00 Bailey 2013 9,000,000 - 1,500,000 10,500,000 Adams 2013 1,750,000 - 250,000 2,000,000 Ayers $2013 1,060,000 - 1,181,250 2,241,250 Beadles 2013 575,000 430,000 - 1,005,000 Bolden 2013 480,000 118,607 - 598,607 Brewer 2013 480,000 1,333 - 481,333 Caldewell 2013 900,000 100,000 - 1,000,000 Decker 2013 575,000 183,037 - 758,037 Dressen 2013 2,500,000 833,333 - 3,333,333 Franklin 2013 771,000 420,000 - 1,191,000 Green 2013 555,000 4,320 - 559,320 Gronkowski 2012 540,000 - - 540,000 Hanie 2013 1,250,000 - - 1,250,000 HArris c 2013 555,000 1,000 - 556,000 Hester 2013 715,000 - - 715,000 Hilman 2013 480,000 172,708 - 652,708 Holiday 2013 480,000 - - 480,000 Irving 2013 555,000 173,750 - 728,750 Jackson 2013 480,000 53,400 - 533,400 Johnson 2013 480,000 4,000 - 484,000 Kuper 2013 4,500,000 315,166 1,100,000 5,915,166 Manning 2013 20,000,000 - - 20,000,000 Miller 2013 2,284,125 3,443,251 - 5,727,376 Moore 2013 555,000 432,500 - 987,500 Moreno 2013 1,700,000 832,000 943,750 3,475,750 Osweliere 2013 480,000 249,396 - 729,396 Pratar 2013 2,500,000 812,500 - 3,312,500 Tamme 2013 2,500,000 500,000 - 3,000,000 Thomas D 2013 836,500 1,593,750 - 2,430,250 Thomas J 2013 555,000 96,000 - 651,000 Trevathan 2013 480,000 26,018 - 506,018 Williams 2013 6,000,000 250,000 1,482,500 7,732,500 Wolfe 2013 480,000 566,910 146,672 1,193,582 Woodyard 2013 2,000,000 - - 2,000,000 ***************** RFA/UFA Ball 2012 540,000 - - 540,000 Bannan 2012 1,000,000 - - 1,000,000 Brooking 2012 1,000,000 - - 1,000,000 Burton 2012 615,000 120,600 - 735,600 Carter 2012 615,000 - - 615,000 Clady 2012 3,500,000 - 2,329,375 5,829,375 Clark 2012 540,000 - - 540,000 Colquitt 2012 540,000 - - 540,000 Davis 2012 615,000 - - 615,000 Koppen 2012 825,000 - - 825,000 Leonard 2012 825,000 65,000 - 890,000 Porter 2012 3,000,000 1,000,000 - 4,000,000 Ramierez 2013 715,000 - - 715,000 Siliga 2012 390,000 - - 390,000 Stokely 2012 1,000,000 - - 1,000,000 Urein 2012 415,000 - - 415,000 Vickerson 2012 1,200,000 500,000 - 1,700,000 Willis 2012 1,260,000 - - 1,260,000 that is assuming we do not resign Clady to the mega contract he is looking for.. If we do then we are looking at about 8 million of which he thinks 7 will be for Rookie contracts.. Now let me add something in here, Pat has had both Josh and John on a short leash in spending up to the cap value.. Therefore unless he opens up the purse strings we are either going to have to redo under performing players contracts, cut some of these guys or NOT sign any UFA and since we currently have only 35 players under contract something will have to give.... Last edited by lonestar; 12-23-2012 at 09:05 PM.. |
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