Nit-Picking Tony Carter - Page 3 - The Orange Mane

MagicHef · 12-19-2012, 01:16 PM

Bolden was thrown at 6 times. Primary coverage on those 6 throws: Harris 2, Carter 2, Champ 1, Leonhard 1.

pricejj · 12-19-2012, 07:26 PM

DJ Williams and Tony Carter were the only starters benched for the final drive against the Ravens.

Danny Trevathan and Omar Bolden took their place.

Inkana7 · 12-19-2012, 07:50 PM

Wow this thread just keeps getting worse, and it started pretty terribly.

pricejj · 12-19-2012, 07:56 PM

If you don't like it, don't click on the thread and read it. It's something that I'm interested in, that's why I'm posting about it. Just finished rewatching the game, and added a final update.

You didn't post in this thread to discuss Broncos football, so why post at all?

Heyneck · 12-19-2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

DJ Williams and Tony Carter were the only starters benched for the final drive against the Ravens.

Danny Trevathan and Omar Bolden took their place.

Champ wasn't on the field too. Was he benched? Nope.

cutthemdown · 12-19-2012, 08:37 PM

Carter also struggled a bit in the Raider game. I wish they could get Porter ready to go an insurance. Like Moreno probably always was I see him as one of the best 45 players on the team. They should activate him he will be motivated to play hard as he hits FA soon. Also the CB a boom or bust position. Sometimes because a guy is aggressive he will give some plays up. We all wanted tighter coverage and del rio has given it to us.

pricejj · 12-19-2012, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Heyneck

Champ wasn't on the field too. Was he benched? Nope.

Yes he was.

Von Miller, Derek Wolfe, Chris Harris, Wesley Woodyard, Mike Adams, Rahim Moore, and Elvis Dumervil were on the field too.

Omar Bolden was playing press-man coverage too...which was nice to see.

CEH · 12-19-2012, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

1. Gave up 43-yard bomb allowing Ravens to drive the length of the field in the last 2 minutes of the 1st half. Chris Harris made a TD saving pick 6 a little later.

2. Allowed the Ravens to pick up a 3rd and 10 in the 3rd quarter, by playing too far back...another Broncos Defender had to make the tackle.

3. Guilty of PI on Anquan Boldin, putting the Ravens in FG range in the 3rd quarter.

4. Was the primary Defender on Pitta's 61 yard TD in the 4th Quarter, missing a crucial sideline tackle.

Brady and the Patriots are licking their chops thinking of all the matchups they can send your way. Don't think you won't be isolated, because you will. It's not a coincidence that Fox is saying Porter will get some snaps this week.

GET YOUR **** TOGETHER CARTER.

Unless Carter is going to grow 5 inches he's going to lose alot of jump balls to 6-2+ sized WRs. Alexander ate him alive as well

1st and 10 at the 35 . 5 yard PI makes it first and 10 at the 29 leading 31-3. A 5 yard penalty on first down is not something to worry over

All CBs will give up a 3rd and 10 even Bailey. Here's a prediction Tom Brady will convert a 3rd and 10 the next time the Pats play the Broncos

I think there was alot of missed tackles on the Pita TD

He's 5'9 and will be picked on. Never goin change that part of his game

Heyneck · 12-19-2012, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

Yes he was.

Von Miller, Derek Wolfe, Chris Harris, Wesley Woodyard, Mike Adams, Rahim Moore, and Elvis Dumervil were on the field too.

My mistake dude! Thought I read Champ wasn't on the field with other start. Guess that was the Raiders game then.

pricejj · 12-19-2012, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CEH

He's 5'9 and will be picked on. Never goin change that part of his game

Chris Harris is 5'9" too. I just wish Carter played with more enthusiasm, like he did when he first got to play after Porter went out.

There was one play where he gave up 10 yards. Harris came off his man to make the tackle past the 1st down marker. Carter tried to give Harris daps for a 'good play', and Harris just ignored him...because it was a play Carter should have made.

It's little things like that (plus the benching at the end of the game), which indicate that Broncos players and Coaches might not be too happy with the guy. They know he can give more effort, and he's just not right now.

Like I said at the start of this thread, I think that's why they are going to start playing Porter again.

ScottXray · 12-19-2012, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

Thanks for the lame input.

He has shown some good ability this year, but his technique is hurting this team.

Against the Ravens pistol formation, Carter played 74% of the Defensive stats. Chances are, he's headed towards similar PT in the playoffs.

Right now, he's the weakest link on a strong Defense...and we all know how that worked out for Roc Alexander.

The question is, can Carter get it together, or are we going to start seeing a lot more of Porter in Nickel situations? Porter plays pretty far off-man, just like Carter, but is he a better player?

I have to agree that Carters game has slipped, and not just the last game. He has been getting burned by the bigger WRs . He is just a little too short for the 6-4 to 6-6 guys, and they can jump over him, which is where he gets burnt. Harris has been playing better and better.

I think that Porter is going to be worked back into the D for the playoffs, so expect him to get back on the field more the next 2 weeks, and Carter to take the nickle in the playoffs.

Although we have had injuries this year it seems that there has always been someone ready to step up, or step back in after healing up.

Next Man UP!

DENVERDUI55 · 12-23-2012, 12:03 PM

Well Pricejj deserves some props. Rumor is Porter in over Carter today Foxy and Jackie benching Carter.

Bacchus · 12-23-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Another terrible price thread.

Brb making Wesley Woodyard call out thread

Actually, it is a great thread since the Broncos deactivated Carter for his poor play. Everyone owes this man an apology.

pricejj · 12-23-2012, 04:51 PM

Thanks for the props...it doesn't matter much any more though.

Porter's concussion is very concerning for the Broncos. I hope he can come back against the Chiefs...not that he'll get much meaningful practice from that game alone.

I guarantee you, whoever we meet in the playoffs will be heavily targeting the Nickel CB...just like the Browns did today to Bolden.

Porter needs the work, badly.

Hamrob · 12-23-2012, 05:56 PM

Our entire middle is exposed.

We got know push by our DT's....we've got no MLB play worth a turd...and our nickle play is pathetic.

Hopfully, they can figure that out quickly....b/c the Chiefs aren't going to help us any.

enjolras · 12-23-2012, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamrob

Our entire middle is exposed.

We got know push by our DT's....we've got no MLB play worth a turd...and our nickle play is pathetic.

Hopfully, they can figure that out quickly....b/c the Chiefs aren't going to help us any.

This better be sarcasm.

JakeZ01 · 12-23-2012, 06:40 PM

The 00jack obliviousness in this thread is gold.

swaiy · 12-23-2012, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeZ01

The 00jack obliviousness in this thread is gold.

He was being sarcastic. I know because he negged me

R8R H8R · 12-23-2012, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

Thanks for the props...it doesn't matter much any more though.

Porter's concussion is very concerning for the Broncos. I hope he can come back against the Chiefs...not that he'll get much meaningful practice from that game alone.

I guarantee you, whoever we meet in the playoffs will be heavily targeting the Nickel CB...just like the Browns did today to Bolden.

Porter needs the work, badly.

Porter has a long history of injuries. IIRC, he has not played all 16 games in a season yet, and now gets hurt early in the first game back. He can't be trusted. Best bet is to hope JDR has lit a fire under Carter after the benching.

JakeZ01 · 12-23-2012, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by swaiy

He was being sarcastic. I know because he negged me

Oh.... Damn. It was killing me.

pricejj · 12-23-2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by R8R H8R

Porter has a long history of injuries. IIRC, he has not played all 16 games in a season yet, and now gets hurt early in the first game back. He can't be trusted. Best bet is to hope JDR has lit a fire under Carter after the benching.

Yeah, you're probably right.

I think that's the only weak spot that would cause the Broncos to lose.

Hope one of them balls out of control in the playoffs...we're gonna need it.

Bacchus · 12-23-2012, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamrob

Our entire middle is exposed.

We got know push by our DT's....we've got no MLB play worth a turd...and our nickle play is pathetic.

Hopfully, they can figure that out quickly....b/c the Chiefs aren't going to help us any.

pricejj · 01-30-2013, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

GET YOUR **** TOGETHER CARTER.

"Carter, lined up 6 yards off Jones at the snap, was supposed to "jam" Jones before the receiver got through the 5-yard contact zone in order to keep Jones from sprinting up the sideline. If no receiver was in the flat — in the shorter area near the sideline — Carter was supposed to follow Jones up the sideline after the jam. He did neither."

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...s-nfl-playoffs

Nice one Carter.

TonyR · 01-30-2013, 07:25 AM

Quote from Jacoby Jones:

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"Right before the snap, I knew we would look there. I saw an opening. When (Broncos cornerback Tony Carter) didn't jam me and I got by him, it was over with."

Read more: Ravens WR Jacoby Jones said he "knew" he would shock Broncos - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...#ixzz2JTNRib4k

TheReverend · 01-30-2013, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

"Carter, lined up 6 yards off Jones at the snap, was supposed to "jam" Jones before the receiver got through the 5-yard contact zone in order to keep Jones from sprinting up the sideline. If no receiver was in the flat — in the shorter area near the sideline — Carter was supposed to follow Jones up the sideline after the jam. He did neither."

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...s-nfl-playoffs

Nice one Carter.

Highly doubtful.

44 seconds on the clock, protecting a score on the opponents 30 yard line is NOT a jam situation.

12-19-2012, 07:56 PM	#54
pricejj jungle Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Louisville, CO Posts: 5,187	If you don't like it, don't click on the thread and read it. It's something that I'm interested in, that's why I'm posting about it. Just finished rewatching the game, and added a final update. You didn't post in this thread to discuss Broncos football, so why post at all? Last edited by pricejj; 12-19-2012 at 08:03 PM..

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12-19-2012, 01:16 PM	#51
MagicHef Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,430 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Bolden was thrown at 6 times. Primary coverage on those 6 throws: Harris 2, Carter 2, Champ 1, Leonhard 1.

12-19-2012, 07:26 PM	#52
pricejj jungle Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Louisville, CO Posts: 5,187	DJ Williams and Tony Carter were the only starters benched for the final drive against the Ravens. Danny Trevathan and Omar Bolden took their place.

12-19-2012, 07:50 PM	#53
Inkana7 Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,232 Adopt-a-Bronco: Derek Wolfe	Wow this thread just keeps getting worse, and it started pretty terribly.

12-19-2012, 08:37 PM	#56
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,480	Carter also struggled a bit in the Raider game. I wish they could get Porter ready to go an insurance. Like Moreno probably always was I see him as one of the best 45 players on the team. They should activate him he will be motivated to play hard as he hits FA soon. Also the CB a boom or bust position. Sometimes because a guy is aggressive he will give some plays up. We all wanted tighter coverage and del rio has given it to us.

12-23-2012, 12:03 PM	#62
DENVERDUI55 Drunk on Arrival! New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,169 Adopt-a-Bronco: Montee Ball	Well Pricejj deserves some props. Rumor is Porter in over Carter today Foxy and Jackie benching Carter.

12-23-2012, 04:51 PM	#64
pricejj jungle Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Louisville, CO Posts: 5,187	Thanks for the props...it doesn't matter much any more though. Porter's concussion is very concerning for the Broncos. I hope he can come back against the Chiefs...not that he'll get much meaningful practice from that game alone. I guarantee you, whoever we meet in the playoffs will be heavily targeting the Nickel CB...just like the Browns did today to Bolden. Porter needs the work, badly.

12-23-2012, 05:56 PM	#65
Hamrob All-American! All-American! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: DFW Posts: 4,747 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Our entire middle is exposed. We got know push by our DT's....we've got no MLB play worth a turd...and our nickle play is pathetic. Hopfully, they can figure that out quickly....b/c the Chiefs aren't going to help us any.

12-23-2012, 06:40 PM	#67
JakeZ01 newbie power New to the Forum Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: playa del rey Posts: 114 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	The 00jack obliviousness in this thread is gold.