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Old 12-18-2012, 08:08 PM   #1
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Hypothetically, if KM were to continue his ways of running well, good blocking and great ball security, and if we made it to the AFC Championship game, if WM were healthy at that point, do you still start KM or do you start WM?

Having them both healthy and suited up will be a very awesome 1 - 2 punch, but who would you start and give more reps to?

For me, if KM doesn't fumble this entire time and is productive, I gotta say you keep KM as the starter. Love to bring WM in for 10 plays, maybe give Hillman 4 or 5 touches but I don't think I would start WM. That's my view. What's yours?
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knowshon has played better in his limited starts than willis has this year.
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Depends on what Willis does in practice and how healthy he is.

I think if the coaches think he is 100% he starts but in a limited role. I think Willis is better in Blitz pickups. Regardless of who starts both guys will get a lot of touches.

The best thing about KM not sucking is that he is keeping Lance Ball off the field on the O.

I do wonder who will be inactive because Lance plays ST's. I would hate to see Hillman inactive because he is our only home run threat a RB.
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knowshon has played better in his limited starts than willis has this year.
This! I still can't see why people can't acknowledge that he has outperformed WM in the 4 games he has started. Why mess with something that wasn't working before but now is to the T. KM was made for this offense (though I still think he would beast in a Mike Shanahan Offense.)
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knowshon has played better in his limited starts than willis has this year.
Depends which 3 of McGhee's games you take, he has 3 100 yard games this year, KM has 4 in his entire career.

If anything they are starting to look like the same type of back now that KM got the message.
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Yes, keep playing him. Same situation as DJ, don't screw with what is working just because someone who MIGHT be better is returning. I find the irony of KM getting benched for 8 games funny when Willis was putting the ball on the ground every week.
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knowshon has played better in his limited starts than willis has this year.
This. If Knowshon plays full-time the way he has.... then he's a better back at this point than the Mega-He.
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wtf?

knowshown is always a liability in pass protection
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Yes, keep playing him. Same situation as DJ, don't screw with what is working just because someone who MIGHT be better is returning. I find the irony of KM getting benched for 8 games funny when Willis was putting the ball on the ground every week.
Fox prefers vets, sometimes to a fault... why do you think Brooking is stil Mike?
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Except not at all.
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Knowshon is the best blocking/receiving back on the team.

McGahee is a good blocker, but doesn't really go out on routes. He's not bad at it, just not as good as Moreno.

Hillman is the opposite: good receiver, terrible in pass-pro.
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This. If Knowshon plays full-time the way he has.... then he's a better back at this point than the Mega-He.
I agree. The production has been about the same as what McGahee was having but so far, KM has not fumbled and for me, that's the BIG reason why I keep him as the starter. That inactive stretch really seems to have hit home with him and it shows. He's playing like his life depends on it.
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What is KM's status? He was getting worked on and didn't return to the last game.

I really think they should limit KM's touches to about 20 just to keep him healthy.
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Depends which 3 of McGhee's games you take, he has 3 100 yard games this year, KM has 4 in his entire career.

If anything they are starting to look like the same type of back now that KM got the message.
So... when did WM had 4 consecutive games with 20 or more carries, no fumbles, back to back 100 yard games, and 2 TDs (he actually has 3 but 2 in the last 4 games), while WM had 4 in 11.

Sorry but it ain't close. WM if healthy will be the 2nd back and get between 5-10 carries. Want to bet on it?
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wow! knowshow sat in street clothes for 8 straight games for no reason....no reason at all!

I think we all can agree that this has been a different KM then before the inactive stretch. Sometimes it takes something like that to resonate with a guy. You come out of college as a high pick, you're a cocky guy, and you think it's your job, and if not, then the next team will certainly be happy to have you. I think he's figured out that maybe that next team won't be callin and certainly just because you're a high pick doesn't mean jack without production. Hard to say, it's only been 4 games but if FEELS like he's got a different attitude.
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wtf? are you for real? hahahaha hater! There is a reason KM is back in the lineup. He is very good (not great) a picking up the blitz.
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wow! knowshow sat in street clothes for 8 straight games for no reason....no reason at all!

It wasnt because of his pass blocking unless you are suggesting he learned to do that in the 8 weeks he was running the scout team plays.
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wow! knowshow sat in street clothes for 8 straight games for no reason....no reason at all!

link me a story that said he was horrible in pass protection and thats why he is benched.

He may have sucked prior to coming back out of the dog house but it had absolutely nothing to do with his pass protection.
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Fox prefers vets, sometimes to a fault... why do you think Brooking is stil Mike?
because he is actually better than anyone we have. And don't give me the DJ playing MLB argument. He failed that test long ago.
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Knowshon is the best blocking/receiving back on the team.

McGahee is a good blocker, but doesn't really go out on routes. He's not bad at it, just not as good as Moreno.

Hillman is the opposite: good receiver, terrible in pass-pro.
Hillman loses the weight/height differential and seems to have no upper body strength which is not good when your trying to block or get in the way of someone bigger than you.

I still think McGhee is solid in Pass Pro, I totally agree that KM has the better hands but he has dropped a couple easy ones coming out of the back field also.

Willis is the better power runner and has better vision, that might be the thing that gives him the nod in the coaches eyes but it depends on how he practices and his health.

KM is probably the best RB in space but he hasn't been explosive in the pass game recently.

I would like to see one of our backs take one 60, 50 or even 40 to the house.
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What is KM's status? He was getting worked on and didn't return to the last game.

I really think they should limit KM's touches to about 20 just to keep him healthy.
Per John Fox, "There were no injuries in the game"
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I cant remember where I read it... but the last 4 games, the only player to have more all purpose yards among running backs is AP. Think about that for a second.
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Hypothetically, if KM were to continue his ways of running well, good blocking and great ball security, and if we made it to the AFC Championship game, if WM were healthy at that point, do you still start KM or do you start WM?

Having them both healthy and suited up will be a very awesome 1 - 2 punch, but who would you start and give more reps to?

For me, if KM doesn't fumble this entire time and is productive, I gotta say you keep KM as the starter. Love to bring WM in for 10 plays, maybe give Hillman 4 or 5 touches but I don't think I would start WM. That's my view. What's yours?
I think you play both (assuming Willis is healthy). It will be nice not having much dropoff whenever Willis comes out for one of his "breathers", and vice versa. The dropoff between those two and everyone else on the roster is staggering.
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