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Old 12-17-2012, 12:30 AM   #1
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Given his inability to hold on to the ball, I see Tindon Holliday more as a situational returner.

The guy coughed it up TWICE against the Ravens and was only saved by lucky bounces.

I love it when a returner can break a game open, but until Holliday learns how to hold on to the rock, I wouldn't automatically have him lining up to be our go-to return guy.

I'd rather have someone like Darrien "Flash" Gordon tearing it up on returns or kickoffs compared to Trindon "I Got Greased Up At a Holiday Inn" Holliday.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:22 AM   #2
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Yes he's worth the risk, but I definitely hold my breath every time the ball is in his hands.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:35 AM   #3
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There is a reason he is not in Houston anymore. But we should keep him. He might fumble. Or he might go 100 yards for a kickoff return.

Risk/reward. And thus far its been mostly reward.

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Old 12-17-2012, 02:18 AM   #4
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When the Ravens kicked it to Holliday rather than trying an early onsides, I commented that they were probably banking on him fumbling...right before he fumbled. Too bad they have literally no other dangerous option in the return game.
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:16 AM   #5
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The kid just needs to be coached up.
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:20 AM   #6
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I think he's more used to running track without a football in his hands. He isn't getting stripped... his mind has not gotten around to the fact that he has a pigskin in his hands.
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:36 AM   #7
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There is a reason he is not in Houston anymore. But we should keep him. He might fumble. Or he might go 100 yards for a kickoff return.

Risk/reward. And thus far its been mostly reward.

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Old 12-17-2012, 05:51 AM   #8
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The second "fumble" he was down when the ball came out.

But geez, the guy has two touchdowns this year and a lot more very good returns setting up great field position for us. He's a weapon, I think its ridiculous questioning him IMO.
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:54 AM   #9
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I'm hoping for a compromise on Holliday. In the playoffs, don't let him field punts inside the 20. Put Leonhard back there in those situations.
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:58 AM   #10
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Just give him some of that stick 'em they use on that kids hands in Little Giants and he will be good to go!
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:01 AM   #11
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aren't they using Leonard when it absolutely positively needs to be held on to?

and Doc Holiday when a return is promising?
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:41 AM   #12
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I'm hoping for a compromise on Holliday. In the playoffs, don't let him field punts inside the 20. Put Leonhard back there in those situations.
21 straight games with a turnover and could have been 22

Yes Denver needs to minimize the risk of turnover in the playoffs.

A turnover by Holliday would have to be negated by a return for TD or inside the opp 10. It would be hard for Holliday to make up for any miscue in the playoff so why even go there
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The second "fumble" he was down when the ball came out.

But geez, the guy has two touchdowns this year and a lot more very good returns setting up great field position for us. He's a weapon, I think its ridiculous questioning him IMO.
I'm not "questionning" him, I'm just saying if the game is on the line and Trindon would be lining up at the Denver 5 yards line, Coach Fox might think twice about having him take the punt.

John "I Am The Most Conservative Coach Ever" Fox might just say: "Screw it, I want someone else back there on THIS particular play....Trindon, sit your ass down on the pine, we're putting [BLANK] in there instead!"

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Old 12-17-2012, 08:08 AM   #14
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Mr. Christmas has been pivotal in many games this season. His returns have helped the team win games. So the answer is emphatically YES, he is worth it.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:33 AM   #15
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Our ST's sucked for years. I love holliday here even though his fumbling might lose us a game. It adds excitement to our ST's. Let's go back to 2 yd returns or less like before NOT.
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Our ST's sucked for years. I love holliday here even though his fumbling might lose us a game. It adds excitement to our ST's. Let's go back to 2 yd returns or less like before NOT.
Paul, In previous years you are not giving the ball back to PMF. Take your pick a safe 2 yard return and PMF gets the ball or a potential for a big play or a fumble and take the ball out of PMF's hands. Ask SF how that worked out for them last year. If we are going to win or lose I want to do it at the hand of Manning

To each his own I guess
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:47 AM   #17
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The second "fumble" he was down when the ball came out.
He is scary (in both good and bad ways) out there, but this should be noted too. He really only fumbled once yesterday. Also, it is obvious that opposing teams are now very afraid of him. They are punting to keep the ball out of his hands, which helps with overall field position. I think it is worth it, but he just can't turn the ball over.
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Trindon Holliday is absolutely worth the risk.

(Edit: 30 Helens agree.)

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Given his inability to hold on to the ball, I see Tindon Holliday more as a situational returner.

The guy coughed it up TWICE against the Ravens and was only saved by lucky bounces.

I love it when a returner can break a game open, but until Holliday learns how to hold on to the rock, I wouldn't automatically have him lining up to be our go-to return guy.

I'd rather have someone like Darrien "Flash" Gordon tearing it up on returns or kickoffs compared to Trindon "I Got Greased Up At a Holiday Inn" Holliday.
He is situational on returns currently. But his speed and ability is too much to replace him. You can guarantee he will get lots of reps fielding punts the rest of the season and especially the offseason
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:12 AM   #20
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No risk, no reward
Go big or go home
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Yes, without a doubt
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No risk, no reward
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Yes, without a doubt
Play to win the game! He had a nice return on one of the plays. He's a weapon back there.
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:17 AM   #22
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This offseason, they just need to put him on an aggressive steroid regimen.
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:54 AM   #23
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He is situational. if its an obvious fair catch sitch, leonhard takes them
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:06 AM   #24
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Well worth the risk to have a gamebreaker like that on the team.

A guy I would LOVE to see the Broncos pick up int he offseason is Leodis McKelvin. Maybe one of the best kick retuners in the game, also a pretty solid corner. I don't see Buffalo resigning him, he will be worth a look... nice to have a versitile guy like that on the team
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:18 AM   #25
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I say give him mechanical finger extensions with a death grip function.
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