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Old 12-01-2014, 05:26 PM   #1
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90 friggin yards after contact.

I don't think enough can be said about how good this guy has been lately, now that he's been given a lagit shot at being the starter, getting the bulk of practice and game reps. The more I watch CJ, and guys like him, such as Lynch, the more I realize that a great running game has MUCH to do about the RB breaking tackles. If a play is blocked for 3 yards, a great RB gets you 7 and every now and then he's gonna get some big ones too. Not that I ever thought a great RB wasn't a tremendous asset to the running game, but I think previously I did think too much success or failure was based on the Oline.
I do think our offensive line adjustment has been helping, but facts don't lie. 90 friggin yards after contact is showing us that a special RB makes all the difference.
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90 friggin yards after contact.

I don't think enough can be said about how good this guy has been lately, now that he's been given a lagit shot at being the starter, getting the bulk of practice and game reps. The more I watch CJ, and guys like him, such as Lynch, the more I realize that a great running game has MUCH to do about the RB breaking tackles. If a play is blocked for 3 yards, a great RB gets you 7 and every now and then he's gonna get some big ones too. Not that I ever thought a great RB wasn't a tremendous asset to the running game, but I think previously I did think too much success or failure was based on the Oline.
I do think our offensive line adjustment has been helping, but facts don't lie. 90 friggin yards after contact is showing us that a special RB makes all the difference.
CJ has always been there. That was some untapped potential we didn't know we had, well, at least the coaches didn't want yet to give him a shot
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It was because of the injuries that he's got his shot, now, I hope he stays as our starting running back.
He's too freakin' good. He can catch, block, run after the catch, score passes and runs, whatever, he does it all...

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Not all contact is created equal...some contact is just arm tackles. I saw a lot of that last night.

With that said, what it looks like to me is he has a very low center of gravity. He never seems to be off balance or even on the verge of going down from those arm tackles.

What REALLY makes me happy is that he's not getting negative yards on many carries...he always seemed to fall forward for at least 2 yards. That is so important to an offense's rhythm.

I was also impressed with how Juwan was moving the pile.
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Not all contact is created equal...some contact is just arm tackles. I saw a lot of that last night.

With that said, what it looks like to me is he has a very low center of gravity. He never seems to be off balance or even on the verge of going down from those arm tackles.

What REALLY makes me happy is that he's not getting negative yards on many carries...he always seemed to fall forward for at least 2 yards. That is so important to an offense's rhythm.

I was also impressed with how Juwan was moving the pile.
I agree, not all contact translates to breaking tackles, in some cases a guy just brushes the shoulder pad or touches a leg, but in CJ's case, alot of his YAC was lagit, actually breaking 3, 4 and 5 tackles to get 8 yards. So on the flip side, while some YAC is easy, some of it is mega studly. I think it evens out in the end.
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I agree, not all contact translates to breaking tackles, in some cases a guy just brushes the shoulder pad or touches a leg, but in CJ's case, alot of his YAC was lagit, actually breaking 3, 4 and 5 tackles to get 8 yards. So on the flip side, while some YAC is easy, some of it is mega studly. I think it evens out in the end.
A back that can break tackles will make his o-line look good. It's about impossible to block a play 100% clean. A back is going to have to break tackles or make people miss, period.

I was a fan of how Moreno ran last year...very similar imho. They ran with anger and always seemed to get positive yards.
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He's had an awesome 2 games I hope they keep giving him the ball
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He's had an awesome 2 games I hope they keep giving him the ball
I cant imagine the coaching staff being that stupid not to continue.
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CJ in live interview last night he said he doesn't like to get arm tacklesm especially by a DB.
He says he likes to run hard to avoid that kind of tackles.
Also, did you guys notice how he high steps his way out of a possible tackle?
That's Marshall Lynch type running...
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CJ is unable to be abducted by aliens because after first contact he keeps going like nothing happened. I heard it standing near the light rail.
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CJ in live interview last night he said he doesn't like to get arm tacklesm especially by a DB.
He says he likes to run hard to avoid that kind of tackles.
Also, did you guys notice how he high steps his way out of a possible tackle?
That's Marshall Lynch type running...
Well CJ grew up in the same area as Lynch and has said he's kinda patterned his game after Lynch. I guess they are still close and no doubt Lynch has given him many tips, and it shows.
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I cant imagine the coaching staff being that stupid not to continue.
You'll be surprised.
They started the second half with 3 straight passes that resulted in a fumble, remember?
After that they pass when they should've run, and run like they should've passed.
That said, the first half was something only Dan Reeves will be proud of. Run, run, pass...move the chains, unlike in the past when it was run, run, pass, punt.
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I cant imagine the coaching staff being that stupid not to continue.
Guess you didn't hear Collingsworth last night? He asked Gase before the game what they were going to do when Hillman and Ball were able to return..Gase went on and on about how good Ball is..lol I wouldn't hold your breath on CJ playing as much when Ball gets better..Thats sad..it just shows the stupidity of our coaching staff.. minus Del Rio.. I kinda like him.
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Its better than that

Number 1 back in the NFL from the LOS last 4 games

Would rush for 2144 yards in 16 games at the current rate.

This could work out very well for us

He is 2 2 good.
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Well it is John Fox
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Guess you didn't hear Collingsworth last night? He asked Gase before the game what they were going to do when Hillman and Ball were able to return..Gase went on and on about how good Ball is..lol I wouldn't hold your breath on CJ playing as much when Ball gets better..Thats sad..it just shows the stupidity of our coaching staff.. minus Del Rio.. I kinda like him.
Thats not going to happen. More likely is Ball goes to IR.
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So far looking like the best RB this franchise has had in a long time.
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Thats not going to happen.
This is Collingsworth's words on a talk he had w/ Gase..sounds like it could already be done..don't say it can't this is a very questionable coaching staff.
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This is Collingsworth's words on a talk he had w/ Gase..sounds like it could already be done..don't say it can't this is a very questionable coaching staff.
Go back and check it out again there are other things that are said that c,early indicate CJ will be right where he s at.
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CJ is unable to be abducted by aliens because he always survives first contact
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90 friggin yards after contact.



I don't think enough can be said about how good this guy has been lately, now that he's been given a lagit shot at being the starter, getting the bulk of practice and game reps. The more I watch CJ, and guys like him, such as Lynch, the more I realize that a great running game has
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I do think our offensive line adjustment has been helping, but facts don't lie. 90 friggin yards after contact is showing us that a special RB makes all the difference.
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There's absolutely no way Fox and Gase can even think of starting Hillman or Ball when they return. You absolutely don't mess with something that's working soooooo good. I know they make some boneheaded mistakes and decisions sometimes but I have a very hard time believing even they could make such a stupid move.

I think they'll give Hillman and Ball some carries to spell CJ now and then, and I think they'll still use JT2 as well.

My only worry is that they feel they need to limit CJ's touches to something like 15 per game. THAT, my friends, would be a mistake. It's not like he's been getting 30 snaps a game all season long. He's fresh and he looks fresh. I would give CJ something like 20 carries and 5 passes, something in that range.
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He is really good. He is a game changer and a season changer for the Broncos.
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Call CJ The Breeze, because he keeps moving on.
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