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Old 07-04-2014, 01:32 AM   #1
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July 2, 2014 - Obama Is First As Worst President Since WWII, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; More Voters Say Romney Would Have Been Better

President Barack Obama is the worst president since World War II, 33 percent of American voters say in a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today. Another 28 percent pick President George W. Bush.

America would be better off if Republican Mitt Romney had won the 2012 presidential election, 45 percent of voters say, while 38 percent say the country would be worse off.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-e...ReleaseID=2056

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/0...ii-108507.html
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Old 07-04-2014, 06:55 AM   #4
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Does anyone really think things would be much, if any, different if Mitt Romney was POTUS? The game would still be just as rigged for Wall St. (anyone notice the record highs on the stock market yesterday?) and the wealthy elite, the Middle East would still be a mess, the new economic reality for this country would be what it is, and so on. No, I suppose there would be no Obamacare, but how much has that impacted anyone here anyway? Sorry, folks, but as bad as Obama may or may not be, getting rid of him isn't some magical panacea.
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About all the liberals have anymore: Romney wouldn't be any better. And you bozos voted for that empty suit twice. The vast intelligent ones? Whatever.
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Old 07-04-2014, 07:49 AM   #6
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Polls matter when we say they matter. give it up price
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Old 07-04-2014, 08:38 AM   #7
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Polls matter when we say they matter. give it up price
Hold on to that. It won't last forever.
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Not surprisingly, a new poll suggesting that Americans think Obama is the worst president since World War II is getting a fair amount of attention, particularly among gleeful conservatives. Thirty-three percent of the respondents, who were offered a list of the 12 U.S. presidents since the war, picked Obama. George W. Bush wasn't far behind, at 28 percent.

In addition to the obvious reason not to take this too seriously — the predictably sharp partisan divide in how people answered, which leads to the unsurprising conclusion that Republicans don't particularly care for Obama — there's another, slightly nerdier one: the availability heuristic.

That sounds fancy, but it simply means that we are biased by how easy it is to summon an example of something in our heads. So when a right-leaning person is asked to think of a bad president, the shadow of Obama looms large over them. To a certain extent, many people who picked Obama weren't carefully weighing how they viewed him versus other presidents — do you remember how crazy Bill Clinton drove conservatives? — but were swayed by how quickly and loudly Barry O seized their brains once the question was asked.
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But the questions about who are the best and worst post-WWII presidents are useless.

What they mainly show is that Republicans are far more unified around a single story than are Democrats.

I’ll explain. On “best president,” Republicans are unified around Ronald Reagan: 66 percent pick him, with no one else getting more than 6 percent. Republicans are similarly in agreement on “worst president,” with Obama clobbering Jimmy Carter, 63 percent to 14 percent, and no one else better than 5 percent.

Democrats, however, have a competitive race for best president: Bill Clinton, at 34 percent, John Kennedy and Obama, at 18 percent. For worst president, Democrats again split between George W. Bush, at 54 percent, and Richard Nixon, at 20 percent.

With Republicans united and Democrats split, the “winners” simply reflect that Republican unity, so Reagan wins “best” and Obama “worst.” That would be the case even if Obama was quite a bit more popular.
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Reagan is not God and Obama is not Satan.

Democrats are more independent and freely-thinking; Republicans are the Borg.

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The poll demonstrates Obama's problems -- which are many -- but it probably says more the American people and their nearsightedness.

As our own Philip Bump noted, the last time Quinnipiac asked the same question, in 2006, the American people also chose the current president, then George W. Bush.

Going back even further, this question has proven similarly unkind to those who have made the poor decision to be president too close to when the poll was conducted.
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Reagan was godfather of huge government deficits. How does that jibe with his popularity among 'conservatives'?
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Bush got elected twice then obama got elected twice...conclusion is that nobody will ever go broke from underestimating the intelligence of the American people.

Can't wait for 2016 when it's Jeb vs Hillary in the most important election EVER!
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Reagan was godfather of huge government deficits. How does that jibe with his popularity among 'conservatives'?
And he raised taxes.

And when the Marines were bombed in Lebanon, he had us skedaddle right out of there.

And he granted amnesty to illegals.

He almost got rid of all our nukes.

Reagan was a socialist by the standards of today's 'bagger-infested GOP.
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Popularity poll. Meh. Fox News has been bashing Obama 24/7/365 since he took office. No doubt that affects the popularity rankings. They were also able to convince a majority of the public that Saddam was responsible for 911. What will historians say in a hundred, or two hundred years? I'm guessing Dubya will be worst ever. He was an absolute disaster; Even worse than Buchanan. Obama will be in the bottom ten, no doubt. Probably the bottom five. I imagine Reagan will be in the bottom twenty. He was very popular, but his radical policies wrecked the country. Clinton was nothing more than a status quo president who read the polls and did what they told him. Blah. Same with Bush 1. Carter goes in the bottom twenty along with Ford. Although his heart was in the right place, he was a terrible manager. Nixon is way down near the bottom, given that he was our most dishonest president.

I'm guessing one of the reasons that Fox carries on the smash Obama campaign is to make sure nobody focuses on Dubya, the president their propaganda helped put in office. That, and he's black.

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but how much has that impacted anyone here anyway?
I'm losing my great insurance October of this year. Thanks for asking.
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"Reagan proved that deficits don't matter." Dick Cheney
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Obama is ahead of Bush II and in the same general vicinity as Reagan, Carter, Ford and Kennedy in the lower half of the post WWII presidents.
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Obama is ahead of Bush II and in the same general vicinity as Reagan, Carter, Ford and Kennedy in the lower half of the post WWII presidents.
What about Tricky Dick?
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What about Tricky Dick?
Right near the top. Not interested in saints for Presidents just guys who get important stuff done. Nixon had a tremendous record of achievement and That's good enough for me. Same goes for Johnson, much props to him. The King of legislative dealmaking. These two are the most underrated. Both flawed but tremendously accomplished. And yes, Johnson probably had his own sister and maybe his predecessor killed and no that doesn't make a ton of difference to me. If you are looking for any of these dudes to be even halfway decent dudes, you don't get how it works. I have Truman and Clinton in the top tier as well. Truman, Nixon are my top 2.

Ike and Bush I in the middle.

Obama, Carter, Kennedy, Reagan, Ford in lower half. Obama and Carter are kinda similar in the sense that they have one achievement and the rest of their presidency is a dumpster fire, although Carter's is more of a consensus big achievement than Obama's. On the other hand, Obama's dumpster fire is nowhere near as bad as Carter's and a chunk of it isn't his doing. Ford doesn't do much either way unless you are into intangible bull**** of which I am not. Kennedy and Reagan are both massively overrated frauds and the American publics love for them reflects poorly on the intelligence of the public and the ease by which people can be fooled by optics. One guy a flat out moron who bankrupted his country to achieve something that two of his predecessors already made sure would be achieved either way. The other dude a know nothing good looking good talking backbencher whose only real achievement actually resulted in a net strategic gain for the enemy. His loss was no loss at all.

Bush II dead last and likely WOAT.
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This poll lists Obama as the worst and GWB as the 2nd worst. We've all been saying that for years TonyR. That's why Democrats had a super-majority in 2008. I didn't think it was possible, but Obama has made GWB look like a good president. I know that sounds crazy, but the people in this poll agree with me.

Would Romney have made a difference? Yes. Romney would have restored some sense of normalcy. Obama continues to do damage on almost a daily basis. However, not much in the way of major policy will change until Harry Reid is no longer the head of the Senate.
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Romney was and is an empty suit who offered nothing of value with the exception of a serious push for badly needed Medicare and SS reform in the form of vouchers, increasing eligibility ages and decreasing COLA adjustments and that's only cause of his running mate not him. So other than that, Romney offers nothing positive what's over. And the necessary gains there probably would be wiped out by another set of deficit increasing tax cuts.

Romney doesn't get that fiscal conservatism means a push towards balanced budgets, not spending cuts plus tax cuts which then wipe out the benefit of the spending cuts. Romney also had a very rudimentary knowledge of foreign affairs and basically offered nothing creative domestically. If you want a Mormon GOP President, the right one was out there, but wasn't given the time of day.
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Privatizing SS & Medicare is never going to happen.
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Privatizing SS & Medicare is never going to happen.
Not a wholesale privatization. Actually SS is easier to fix than Medicare...make the COLA less generous and increase the amount of taxable income the SS tax is applicable too by a small margin and they can extend the solvency well into the future. Medicare is tougher. Boomer retirements will put tremendous strain on the system, there needs to be some significant cost shifting there to the beneficiary and away from the govt.
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