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Old 12-02-2012, 07:24 PM   #1
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I'm curious, has Peyton Manning ever had a better team around him than he does right now? Thinking back, he may have had a better offense during the Edgerrin James prime years...but he's never had a team this good in all 3 phases has he?
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:27 PM   #2
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I'm curious, has Peyton Manning ever had a better team around him than he does right now? Thinking back, he may have had a better offense during the Edgerrin James prime years...but he's never had a team this good in all 3 phases has he?
Some of those Indy squads were juggernauts. Especially in the playoffs. Against the Broncos.
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from what i recall, his indy defenses were so good because his offense was so good. they would get up, defense could attack and was built to play from ahead. they couldnt, however, take over a game and win it on their own like this defense can.
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:29 PM   #4
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Doubt he ever had a better defense
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Some of my favorite games were the games involving those Colt teams with no D. The Mike Bell Indy game really stands out. Those were fun.

But best in terms of all three phases being balanced? Possibly. The Ds were always a different beast though when... whoever that safety was that was always hurt was on the field. It was particularly when he was out that they really struggled.
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Bob Sanders. In 2007 he was DPOY
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Some of my favorite games were the games involving those Colt teams with no D. The Mike Bell Indy game really stands out. Those were fun.

But best in terms of all three phases being balanced? Possibly. The Ds were always a different beast though when... whoever that safety was that was always hurt was on the field. It was particularly when he was out that they really struggled.
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He made a huge difference and many of the Ds we associate with the Manning Colts were only as bad as they were because Sanders made the D viable. Sanders, Mathis, and Freeney were a force for quite some time.
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The best defense probably.

It's not even close on offense though.

Manning, Wayne, Harrison, Stokely, Clark, Edge in their prime was pretty unreal (2004).
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Marvin Harrison + Reggie Wayne + Dallas Clark + Edgerrin James >> current skill positions
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The best defense probably.

It's not even close on offense though.

Manning, Wayne, Harrison, Stokely, Clark, Edge in their prime was pretty unreal (2004).
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Some of those Indy squads were juggernauts. Especially in the playoffs. Against the Broncos.
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:44 PM   #13
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No way. Knowshon > Edge.

























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Old 12-02-2012, 08:17 PM   #14
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Peyton Manning has played on a team that won the Super Bowl. If this team accomplishes that feat, we can start this discussion.
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I love Thomas and Decker but, Indy's weapons were better. I think Indy's DL was better too but, rest yes
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Dallas Clark still looks better than Tamme or Dreessen

Saturday is still better the Koppen
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:42 PM   #17
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Only one that may be better on Denver is Demaryius Thomas. He has now emerged as a top notch #1 WR. Man I have never been so happy to be wrong about a player than him. He is so fun to watch now. His blocking is a thing of beauty.
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:56 PM   #18
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Only one that may be better on Denver is Demaryius Thomas. He has now emerged as a top notch #1 WR. Man I have never been so happy to be wrong about a player than him. He is so fun to watch now. His blocking is a thing of beauty.
Gotta love DT's stiff-arms too! He's a tough receiver to bring down.
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I think the real big edge also comes in those guys being together for a lot of seasons. It has been amazing how quick the system has gelled here, Decker and DT have shown themselves as legit WRs and Tamme has been very solid, but those great Colts teams were really on the same page. There's still a lot of learning on the job going on with our offense this year.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:10 PM   #20
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Defense is better than he ever had in Indy, hands down.
No mention of special teams? Indy always had good kickers and punters, but TERRIBLE coverage and return. Holiday has as many good run backs as Peyton had seen in all his Indy years combined

I'm not gonna bite too much on the Sanders comments. The guy was great when he played. But he was like a glass version of Troy Palamalu
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:14 PM   #21
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i think if manning was 5 years younger and had a chance to grow with DT he could of been better then wayne and harrison. the guys size speed talent ratio is un real. i hope he blossoms into what his full potential can be. i dont see him as a calvin johnson but more of an andre johnson. he doesnt really have that pluckability of a larry fitzgerald. although manning doesnt really give him a chance at jump balls he hits him in stride so nicely.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:24 PM   #22
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The team in 2005 when Pittsburgh beat them allowing us afc championship game was his best in my opinion. They were stacked and Manning was untouchable that year. This teams D is better than his Indy teams.
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:37 PM   #23
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offense no, but with peyton manning, he can make any offense click, and DT and decker have really stepped it up this year and been very consistent solid playmaking WRs.

the defense, the only years i remember our colts D being anywhere near as good as this squad is 2006 playoffs to 2007. but i really think this is the best team manning has had and i truly see this squad in the superbowl
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offense no, but with peyton manning, he can make any offense click, and DT and decker have really stepped it up this year and been very consistent solid playmaking WRs.

the defense, the only years i remember our colts D being anywhere near as good as this squad is 2006 playoffs to 2007. but i really think this is the best team manning has had and i truly see this squad in the superbowl
see this is what makes me mad about analysts/fans. they think that manning made DT and decker like these stud receivers but the truth is the talent was always there the QB getting them the ball was not. DT was riddled with injuries his first two years and he was playing well even with teblow at QB last year. skip bayless repeatedly said decker wasnt even a top 50 receiver last year and he blamed tebows ****ty completion percentage on bad WR play. these guys needed someone to tie them all together and manning is that key.
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2007 Indianapolis Colts: 5th overall in offense, 3rd overall in defense.

Manning's Colts teams were consistently top-5 on offense, but 2007 was the only year where they were above-average on defense.

So, yeah... this team has a shot to be the best Manning's ever played on.....
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