Raiders - what could have been - The Orange Mane

Taco John · 11-30-2012, 03:07 PM

Thank goodness the Raiders Organizations has been so incompetent from the top down. Imagine if they knew what they were doing over there. This could have been a REAL scary team.

Rabb · 11-30-2012, 03:10 PM

ok, now imagine them all having boners while playing

19-0

Tim · 11-30-2012, 03:15 PM

The only thing wrong with the pic is the notion glen Dorsey is better than run dmc other than that the raiders suck

fontaine · 11-30-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

Thank goodness the Raiders Organizations has been so incompetent from the top down. Imagine if they knew what they were doing over there. This could have been a REAL scary team.

Well McDaniels did try smart and tough. . . . .

2009
12 Knowshon Moreno Broncos RB Georgia
13 Brian Orakpo Redskins LB Texas

18 Robert Ayers Broncos DE Tennessee
22 Percy Harvin Vikings WR Florida
26 Clay Matthews Packers LB USC

37 Alphonso Smith Broncos DB Wake Forest
42 Jairus Byrd Bills DB Oregon

48 Darcel McBath Broncos DB Texas Tech
53 LeSean McCoy Eagles RB Pittsburgh

64 Richard Quinn Broncos TE North Carolina
65 Shonn Greene Jets RB Iowa

2010
25 Tim Tebow Broncos QB Florida
42 Rob Gronkowski Patriots TE Arizona

CBF1 · 11-30-2012, 03:44 PM

I went from loving the original post to now hating it after reading Fontaine's damn rebuttal.

lonestar · 11-30-2012, 03:44 PM

They IMO would still Suck. as long as aldaviss was coaching from the owners box. They could never get a real coach in their to make a difference.

The stud players would just move on the a real team when the rookie contract was up. The morons aldaviss took had little option but to stick. They were not talented enough to get better money elsewhere.

But yes they would have been tough with a decent coaching staff.

cutthemdown · 11-30-2012, 03:47 PM

I was so relieved when they didn't take Calivn Johnson.

Kaylore · 11-30-2012, 03:48 PM

CBF1 · 11-30-2012, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

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: This looks like it could be Al's current picture

fontaine · 11-30-2012, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CBF1

I went from loving the original post to now hating it after reading Fontaine's damn rebuttal.

Sorry, my hatred for McDaniels still runs deep.

Drunken.Broncoholic · 11-30-2012, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by fontaine

Sorry, my hatred for McDaniels still runs deep.

Goes to show how one team can rise from turd ashes, while the other team just bathes in it for years.

Atwater His Ass · 11-30-2012, 04:14 PM

These hindsight threads are normally pretty stupid, but it's hard not to imagine a team with Rodgers, Johnson, Fitzgerald and McFadden tearing it up for a few seasons, then watching it all implode in a way only the Raider organization could accomplish.

Rabb · 11-30-2012, 04:19 PM

the silly part to me is, if they get the first few guys...or even the first two for that matter it dramatically changes future draft positions

ColoradoDarin · 11-30-2012, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fontaine

Well McDaniels did try smart and tough. . . . .

2009
12 Knowshon Moreno Broncos RB Georgia
13 Brian Orakpo Redskins LB Texas

18 Robert Ayers Broncos DE Tennessee
22 Percy Harvin Vikings WR Florida
26 Clay Matthews Packers LB USC

37 Alphonso Smith Broncos DB Wake Forest
42 Jairus Byrd Bills DB Oregon

48 Darcel McBath Broncos DB Texas Tech
53 LeSean McCoy Eagles RB Pittsburgh

64 Richard Quinn Broncos TE North Carolina
65 Shonn Greene Jets RB Iowa

2010
25 Tim Tebow Broncos QB Florida
42 Rob Gronkowski Patriots TE Arizona

Only Orakpo and Greene fit the criteria.

Taco John · 11-30-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabb

the silly part to me is, if they get the first few guys...or even the first two for that matter it dramatically changes future draft positions

I definitely agree with that, but consider all the chances over the years they had to improve themselves. Aaron Rogers and Fitz would have changed their franchise. But missing that, imagine Calvin Johnson, McFadden and Palmer together. They could be very dangerous right now.

ColoradoDarin · 11-30-2012, 04:32 PM

The raiders also might have traded up to get Eli Manning had the Chargers stayed with developing Brees (and drafted Fitz, and I often remind my charger friends - Brees, LDT and Fitz...), though I don't know if the chargers would have traded with them.

Atwater His Ass · 11-30-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

I definitely agree with that, but consider all the chances over the years they had to improve themselves. Aaron Rogers and Fitz would have changed their franchise. But missing that, imagine Calvin Johnson, McFadden and Palmer together. They could be very dangerous right now.

You're still assuming though that the Raiders locker room / trash leadership wouldn't have somehow messed this up. That's a pretty big assumption if you ask me.

TheReverend · 11-30-2012, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

I definitely agree with that, but consider all the chances over the years they had to improve themselves. Aaron Rogers and Fitz would have changed their franchise. But missing that, imagine Calvin Johnson, McFadden and Palmer together. They could be very dangerous right now.

They couldve had Cutler instead of Huff too

BroncoBuff · 11-30-2012, 05:18 PM

The sheer number of blunders is what boggles the mind. Just the Jamarcus pick and letting Moss go, change those two moves alone and the offense would've been worlds better. I used to say that if I (or any clear-thinking person) had GM'd the Raiders those two seasons, they would've had Matt Schaub throwing to Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson.

Old Dude · 11-30-2012, 05:25 PM

You could go back through almost anyone's drafts over X number of past years and, with the benefit of hindsight, construct some pretty awesome teams.

The thing that makes the OP so funny is that, in every case, they just listed the very next player taken.

Rodgers throwing to Fitz and Megatron really is a frightening thought.

DENVERDUI55 · 11-30-2012, 05:29 PM

Oakland and even KC for that matter sure have had some bad high draft picks but everyteam can play monday morning QB and go back and see who they missed on.

HorseHead · 11-30-2012, 05:33 PM

I will get killed for saying this, but I think it's better for the game if that is a quality organization. I actually enjoy the rivalry more when both teams are at the top of their games. Sure it's fun to lick the tears of Scott Tennerman, but lets face it, things haven't been the same for awhile..the West is a joke right now..

Everything is cyclical..enjoy the rest of the year and whatever run we have in us, they (Fade) won't suck forever (Chefs too..)...

broncosteven · 11-30-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic

Goes to show how one team can rise from turd ashes, while the other team just bathes in it for years.

Which is the point I keep trying to tell kFc fans who think they are one QB away from being back to contenders.

broncosteven · 11-30-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

The sheer number of blunders is what boggles the mind. Just the Jamarcus pick and letting Moss go, change those two moves alone and the offense would've been worlds better. I used to say that if I (or any clear-thinking person) had GM'd the Raiders those two seasons, they would've had Matt Schaub throwing to Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson.

The raiders would have never stuck with Schaub long enough to let him develop like Houston did. It took him years to turn into what he is now and even saying that he is still not an elite QB.

lonestar · 11-30-2012, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabb

the silly part to me is, if they get the first few guys...or even the first two for that matter it dramatically changes future draft positions

Not with aldaviss running the team.

The only time in recent history they were worth a crap was when Gruden coached. He ran coaches off like some owners changed underwear.

So the assumption they would gotten better well is just that an assumption.

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11-30-2012, 03:10 PM	#2
Rabb Zombie Slayer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5,257 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	ok, now imagine them all having boners while playing 19-0

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Tim First round bye Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,068 Adopt-a-Bronco: DRC	The only thing wrong with the pic is the notion glen Dorsey is better than run dmc other than that the raiders suck

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CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	I went from loving the original post to now hating it after reading Fontaine's damn rebuttal.

11-30-2012, 03:44 PM	#6
lonestar Day One Fan Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West Texas Posts: 6,213 Adopt-a-Bronco: Decker	They IMO would still Suck. as long as aldaviss was coaching from the owners box. They could never get a real coach in their to make a difference. The stud players would just move on the a real team when the rookie contract was up. The morons aldaviss took had little option but to stick. They were not talented enough to get better money elsewhere. But yes they would have been tough with a decent coaching staff.

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cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,447	I was so relieved when they didn't take Calivn Johnson.

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Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,025 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke

11-30-2012, 04:14 PM	#12
Atwater His Ass Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,360 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	These hindsight threads are normally pretty stupid, but it's hard not to imagine a team with Rodgers, Johnson, Fitzgerald and McFadden tearing it up for a few seasons, then watching it all implode in a way only the Raider organization could accomplish.

11-30-2012, 04:19 PM	#13
Rabb Zombie Slayer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5,257 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	the silly part to me is, if they get the first few guys...or even the first two for that matter it dramatically changes future draft positions

11-30-2012, 04:32 PM	#16
ColoradoDarin Ring of Famer AFCW Champs! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: St Augustine, FL Posts: 5,523 Adopt-a-Bronco: Knowshon's Shoe	The raiders also might have traded up to get Eli Manning had the Chargers stayed with developing Brees (and drafted Fitz, and I often remind my charger friends - Brees, LDT and Fitz...), though I don't know if the chargers would have traded with them.

11-30-2012, 05:18 PM	#19
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,433 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	The sheer number of blunders is what boggles the mind. Just the Jamarcus pick and letting Moss go, change those two moves alone and the offense would've been worlds better. I used to say that if I (or any clear-thinking person) had GM'd the Raiders those two seasons, they would've had Matt Schaub throwing to Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson.

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Old Dude Host Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: As if I'd tell you crazies! Posts: 14,152	You could go back through almost anyone's drafts over X number of past years and, with the benefit of hindsight, construct some pretty awesome teams. The thing that makes the OP so funny is that, in every case, they just listed the very next player taken. Rodgers throwing to Fitz and Megatron really is a frightening thought.

11-30-2012, 05:29 PM	#21
DENVERDUI55 Drunk on Arrival! New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,153 Adopt-a-Bronco: Montee Ball	Oakland and even KC for that matter sure have had some bad high draft picks but everyteam can play monday morning QB and go back and see who they missed on.

11-30-2012, 05:33 PM	#22
HorseHead Ring of Famer Stay thirsty my friends.. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,211 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bay Bay	I will get killed for saying this, but I think it's better for the game if that is a quality organization. I actually enjoy the rivalry more when both teams are at the top of their games. Sure it's fun to lick the tears of Scott Tennerman, but lets face it, things haven't been the same for awhile..the West is a joke right now.. Everything is cyclical..enjoy the rest of the year and whatever run we have in us, they (Fade) won't suck forever (Chefs too..)...