Moreno stepped his game up - Page 5 - The Orange Mane

2KBack · 11-26-2012, 08:18 AM

It was equal/better to the production we got out of McGahee in 7 out of the 10 games he started. Hopefully he can get a couple games where he gets rolling like Willis did.

DBroncos4life · 11-26-2012, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyR

Broncos will likely sign Jacob Hester this week according to Klis...

I guess it make sense though in a way. Hester has three career games over 30 yards and all three came against us. His career high was last year against us with 47 yards.

He becomes our when we need a yard guy then right?

lonestar · 11-26-2012, 09:28 AM

had afew really good second effort runs, got tripped up by teammates feet a couple of time not sure if that is a aberration or a sign of things to come..

Really set ou some of his blocking was real patience on several runs, even got a couple of yards when there did not seem to be a hole..

that said I still like bigger backs, if he wants to take a big reduction in salary next year I would not mind having him as a give the starter a rest after a few good runs..

Lestat · 11-26-2012, 09:54 AM

i still want us to draft another RB next year. i like Hillman's potential but i want a bigger back to compliment him even if we keep Moreno(which i think we will due to his pass catching and blocking skills)Willis is getting long in the tooth and we can't afford to have him go down next year with the depth we currently have.

plus.. i want Lance Ball riding the inactive list! let him be a super cheerleader.

Cito Pelon · 11-26-2012, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris

When he has to change direction he basically stops... it's like he widens his stance and loses all his speed then has to start up again. McGahee just keeps churning forwards.

That's true. Maybe (hopefully) not anymore. He used to dick around in the open field past the LOS trying double jukes on DB's and slowing his downfield momentum instead of a quick stutter and slash downfield. Hence of course all the dancing criticism. Hopefully we don't see that anymore. He's left too many yds on the field, and I think that's what gets people irritated most of all.

He's actually been quite productive when healthy, but I think the wise move was to start McGahee over him because of the consistency and power Willis brought to the table. For this year, people forget Moreno was still wearing a knee brace in preseason, maybe wasn't quite ready, and they didn't need him all that much anyway.

They need him now, and he can produce adequately. They really don't have much behind him and are gonna sign Jacob Hester, so if Moreno goes down that's not so good.

2KBack · 11-26-2012, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

i still want us to draft another RB next year. i like Hillman's potential but i want a bigger back to compliment him even if we keep Moreno(which i think we will due to his pass catching and blocking skills)Willis is getting long in the tooth and we can't afford to have him go down next year with the depth we currently have.

plus.. i want Lance Ball riding the inactive list! let him be a super cheerleader.

Cameron Marshall, totally hidden by the new offense in AZ....5-11 225, good quickness, great agility.

Cito Pelon · 11-26-2012, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Who here thinks Ball should get cut for one of those guys we worked out?

Hell no. Ball is a solid team contributor, both on ST's and as backup RB.

Lestat · 11-26-2012, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

Cameron Marshall, totally hidden by the new offense in AZ....5-11 225, good quickness, great agility.

he's nice but i like Mike Gillislee(UF) & Christine Michael(A&M) better as big backs. i like Taylor of Stanford as well but i'm not sure he'll be able to break some longer runs.

2KBack · 11-26-2012, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

he's nice but i like Mike Gillislee(UF) & Christine Michael(A&M) better as big backs. i like Taylor of Stanford as well but i'm not sure he'll be able to break some longer runs.

I like Michael, he is very similar to Marshall. I really like Taylor, but he is actually smaller than Moreno.

bronco militia · 11-26-2012, 11:01 AM

Kuper was back...that was probably the biggest difference.

lonestar · 11-26-2012, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

Kuper was back...that was probably the biggest difference.

actually kuper was not very effective in blocking the run game many times when Moreno tried to follow him and Franklin they were knocked back into the backfield and he scooted back to the left side .

Kupes is not remotely healed and back to his pre injury self.. that or KC is just that good..

Lestat · 11-26-2012, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

I like Michael, he is very similar to Marshall. I really like Taylor, but he is actually smaller than Moreno.

Taylor is 215, Moreno plays between 200-210 most seasons both are 5-11.
he is not smaller by any stretch of the imagination.

bronco militia · 11-26-2012, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lonestar

actually kuper was not very effective in blocking the run game many times when Moreno tried to follow him and Franklin they were knocked back into the backfield and he scooted back to the left side .

Kupes is not remotely healed and back to his pre injury self.. that or KC is just that good..

lmao!! I saw Moreno miss wide open holes Kuper and the OL were making....

2KBack · 11-26-2012, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

Taylor is 215, Moreno plays between 200-210 most seasons both are 5-11.
he is not smaller by any stretch of the imagination.

Not that official listings are all that accurate but Moreno is typically listed 210-215, while I've seen Taylor listed anywhere from 205 to 215. So that being said, he doesn't really fit the bigger back role any better than Moreno.

lonestar · 11-26-2012, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

!@#$%^&*!! I saw Moreno miss wide open holes Kuper and the OL were making....

I did not see them..

not that I was obsessing like you seemed to have done..

got an agenda?

lonestar · 11-26-2012, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

Not that official listings are all that accurate but Moreno is typically listed 210-215, while I've seen Taylor listed anywhere from 205 to 215. So that being said, he doesn't really fit the bigger back role any better than Moreno.

if they are not over 225 I'm not interested..

Give me a good 240 guy that has a little speed and is not afraid of going up the gut I'm a happy camper..

I could care less if he can not take it to the house anytime he gets the ball....

I want a fumble free guy that can get me 2 tough yards when I have to have them..

Sounds like we just signed Hester..

Beantown Bronco · 11-26-2012, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

lmao!! I saw Moreno miss wide open holes Kuper and the OL were making....

This is how OMane myths are created. One person says it. Another repeats it. Soon, it spreads like ebola.

AKBroncofan · 11-26-2012, 11:55 AM

I'm glad he picked up some slack hope he continues in the right direction.

JakeZ01 · 11-26-2012, 12:09 PM

It seems blocking is helpful to a rb.. Who knew.

bronco militia · 11-26-2012, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

This is how OMane myths are created. One person says it. Another repeats it. Soon, it spreads like ebola.

lol...at least Slowshon left his jazz hands and dancing shoes at home this week. Overall, I saw a ton of running yards left on the field.

Nwp-Apap · 11-26-2012, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

Taylor is 215, Moreno plays between 200-210 most seasons both are 5-11.
he is not smaller by any stretch of the imagination.

Moreno is 218

Nwp-Apap · 11-26-2012, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

Kuper was back...that was probably the biggest difference.

Ramirez is a better run blocker than a healthy Kuper. Kuper was obviously not 100% healthy yesterday either.

Nwp-Apap · 11-26-2012, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

lol...at least Slowshon left his jazz hands and dancing shoes at home this week. Overall, I saw a ton of running yards left on the field.

Then you did not watch the game very closely, or you were not exactly sober. Knowshon made the most of every touch, and played as well as anyone could have hoped for. If any RB has that type of game every game, for a season, he's a pro bowler. It was a good game.

bronco militia · 11-26-2012, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nwp-Apap

Then you did not watch the game very closely, or you were not exactly sober. Knowshon made the most of every touch, and played as well as anyone could have hoped for. If any RB has that type of game every game, for a season, he's a pro bowler. It was a good game.

is there an echo in here?

...and you didn't read any of my posts closely.

Requiem · 11-26-2012, 01:15 PM

You guys don't like Moreno because of injuries, yet want to draft Christine Michael who has blown out a knee completely and broke his tibia in college. Not only that, but got ejected from a game this year for throwing a punch and suspended because he is an undisciplined dumbass and has been notorious for getting in the doghouse with the Aggies.

GTFO!

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11-26-2012, 08:18 AM	#101
2KBack Rumblin' Bumblin' Cake is delicious Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 7,275	It was equal/better to the production we got out of McGahee in 7 out of the 10 games he started. Hopefully he can get a couple games where he gets rolling like Willis did.

11-26-2012, 09:28 AM	#103
lonestar Day One Fan Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West Texas Posts: 6,213 Adopt-a-Bronco: Decker	had afew really good second effort runs, got tripped up by teammates feet a couple of time not sure if that is a aberration or a sign of things to come.. Really set ou some of his blocking was real patience on several runs, even got a couple of yards when there did not seem to be a hole.. that said I still like bigger backs, if he wants to take a big reduction in salary next year I would not mind having him as a give the starter a rest after a few good runs..

11-26-2012, 09:54 AM	#104
Lestat Oreo Lucian Rockefeller The New Age Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 5,170	i still want us to draft another RB next year. i like Hillman's potential but i want a bigger back to compliment him even if we keep Moreno(which i think we will due to his pass catching and blocking skills)Willis is getting long in the tooth and we can't afford to have him go down next year with the depth we currently have. plus.. i want Lance Ball riding the inactive list! let him be a super cheerleader.

11-26-2012, 11:01 AM	#110
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,591	Kuper was back...that was probably the biggest difference.

11-26-2012, 11:55 AM	#118
AKBroncofan Just Drafted Work hard! Play hard! Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Anchorage Posts: 7 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I'm glad he picked up some slack hope he continues in the right direction.

11-26-2012, 12:09 PM	#119
JakeZ01 newbie power New to the Forum Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: playa del rey Posts: 114 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	It seems blocking is helpful to a rb.. Who knew.

11-26-2012, 01:15 PM	#125
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,598 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	You guys don't like Moreno because of injuries, yet want to draft Christine Michael who has blown out a knee completely and broke his tibia in college. Not only that, but got ejected from a game this year for throwing a punch and suspended because he is an undisciplined dumbass and has been notorious for getting in the doghouse with the Aggies. GTFO!