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Old 11-16-2012, 09:41 AM   #51
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We're still fighting this one:
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:39 AM   #52
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One court case doesn't make the Declaration of Independence illegal. That particular case ruled that Texans had no constitutional rights because they were a territory secured by the military.
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One court case doesn't make the Declaration of Independence illegal. That particular case ruled that Texans had no constitutional rights because they were a territory secured by the military.
The DoE has exactly 0 legal weight under the Constitution. The matter of seccession is a gross oversight by the framers, as we learned in the 1860s
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:08 PM   #55
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The DoE has exactly 0 legal weight under the Constitution. The matter of seccession is a gross oversight by the framers, as we learned in the 1860s
thank you.

Got love the mental midgets that think the Declaration actually means anything in terms of governance.
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Riiight. I'm sure you did. You're a tough lady.

Both these petitions are dumb. But on one hand I can see the frustration. The entire federal government is a complete mess right now. Individual freedom is what's going to hell in a hand basket right now. Very tempting to get rid of these fools and start over with the constitution.
I notice you have not been around as much
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:27 AM   #58
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is it just me or does it seem like the liberals are still all pissed off? Even when they get a win they lose.
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Old 11-17-2012, 04:17 AM   #59
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I notice you have not been around as much
hmmmmmmmmmmm why not I wonder?
He crawled out from under his rock just in time for the election, and now he's crawled back under there.
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thank you.

Got love the mental midgets that think the Declaration actually means anything in terms of governance.
I'm sorry. I should have said irrelevant instead of illegal. You know, when you make insults about people that didn't insult you, it just makes you look juvenile. The point I tried to make was that not only did the Founders think the Declaration meant something then, they thought of it being eternal. Not just for the American colonists, but future Americans who lost control over the government.
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LABF LABF you so need to check ya facts thar ironicly enough i got it off of a humor web site cracked since you is either too lazy to check your facts or too stoopid < of course its a misspelling my god do you people not got one speck of humor in your bodies >
now i got to squash this thread because its getting rather stupid so lemme present to you the article from cracked
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Why the ‘Anti-Obama States Secede!’ Story Is a Lie


Something you see with unfortunate frequency around times of high political contention are otherwise legitimate sites and publications taking the bait and turning a bull**** story into headline news. Case in point: this absurd story about states filing petitions to secede from the union in the wake of last Tuesday's election.



To give credit where it's due, that's a fantastic headline. The way it's worded, you would think that we're on the verge of collapsing into the next Civil War. Residents? In more than a dozen states? How many more states are we talking? Four? 31? Is it all of them? Holy ****, it's all of them, isn't it? We're doomed. Every state wants to secede. DOOMED!
The Huffington Post isn't the only site to jump on the story. Over at BuzzFeed, as we write this, it's the eighth most popular story in the "Hot on BuzzFeed" category, despite featuring not one picture of a boob as far as we can tell, so we're not sure what's so hot about it.


Clicking through to either of those stories reveals no hint that what you're about to read is a whole bunch of useless information. Instead, we get "facts" about how the Obama administration will issue a response when the petitions reach 25,000 signatures. That's followed by scary screenshots showing just how close we are to Texas finally becoming its own country.




But there's a lot of information to this story that's being left out. For example, the petitions in question are being posted directly to the White House website. That's a tantalizing detail if, say, a group of ragtag "patriots" defaced the White House website with signature requests that the government never wanted there. Or maybe if an armed militia stormed the White House IT department and force-posted the documents there. But that's not what's happening. Instead, these angry demands for freedom are being posted on a
public
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open to anyone who wants to participate
, even lunatics who think that Texas should break from the U.S. and rejoin with Mexico again or whatever. That person could be a tinfoil-hat-wearing conspiracy theorist or a bored 12-year-old kid trying to get a rise out of people. There's no way of knowing.


What we do know with like 132 percent certainty is that what's happening here is a non-issue. These are the ramblings of a small group of political zealots who actually care enough about spouting their particular brand of crazy that they figured out how to upload something to the Internet. To make the case for secession even more problematic, in case anyone is actually reading this and getting jazzed at the thought of needing a passport to travel to South Carolina, have a look at some of the signatures from that very state:




Sure, there are over 16,000 signatures, but, not even ten in, already half of them aren't even from South Carolina. If you recall, the Texas petition was somewhere in the 18,000-signature range. What are the chances that most of the people who signed this petition also signed the petitions for the other states "hoping" to secede? Suddenly we've gone from thousands of people in dozens of states hoping to break away and start their own country to just thousands of people in the country hoping that pretty much any state will secede. And, well, we've always kind of known that those people exist, right? We didn't need a Whitehouse.gov petition to tell us, and you certainly didn't need us to tell you (that's why you read BuzzFeed and HuffPo).
If for some reason you're still bothered/aroused by this, there's one more petition you should see. It's gained just as much momentum with the petition-signing community, and the idea behind it is just as silly:






That should put this story to rest then, yeah? But really, it's not like anyone is fooled by this blatant sensationalism, right? It's not like people are jumping on this story and spreading it far and wide across the Internet or anything.




You've disappointed us, America. Anyway, while we certainly don't want to see this adorable band of petition-signing rabble-rousers deported or anything, there is one petition out there that we wouldn't mind hearing a response from the Obama administration about:



We only need 25,000 signatures.
Let's make it happen

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http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/t...driving-drunk/

http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/3...o-renaissance/


http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4...uses-to-shame/


http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/5...eople-run-fun/
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now this should stop this silly OMFG states are leaving the union nonsense
also check out cracked.com its humorous trivia. now you too can be just like this guy

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I signed it. I know we will not be able to secede. I'm well aware i'll probably go down on the watch lists. I think my country is rotting at the core. Republican, Democrat y'all the same. I have been downtown on two different occasions where i was approached by ladies. Both started conversations and both started talking politics. I told them wasn't interested in talking politics. They were so politically charged or drunk ignored this. So i told em what i believed. I am starting to have a deep hatred for the left. I am no republican and think they are just as blind, but damn you liberals just spew venom when people don't see your way.

Anyone want to deport me for using my first amendment. Ain't nothing stopping you.
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I'm offended, but of course if it's flipped the other way like this then that's ok. You libs and your double standards amaze me.
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I am not a liberal. I should be offended but I am not self righteous. I am willing to learn new things and focus on the truth.
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I signed it. I know we will not be able to secede. I'm well aware i'll probably go down on the watch lists. I think my country is rotting at the core. Republican, Democrat y'all the same. I have been downtown on two different occasions where i was approached by ladies. Both started conversations and both started talking politics. I told them wasn't interested in talking politics. They were so politically charged or drunk ignored this. So i told em what i believed. I am starting to have a deep hatred for the left. I am no republican and think they are just as blind, but damn you liberals just spew venom when people don't see your way.

Anyone want to deport me for using my first amendment. Ain't nothing stopping you.
It is not legal and I am not in that official capacity.

America, despite it's failings, remains the greatest country this world has ever seen. Hating people, no matter how reasonable, often only harms you.
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Strip the Citizenship from Everyone who Signed a Petition to Secede and Exile Them
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Bingo.

This is what they call in their world of self-delusion "tolerance" and "inclusivity."
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LABF LABF you so need to check ya facts thar ironicly enough i got it off of a humor web site cracked since you is either too lazy to check your facts or too stoopid < of course its a misspelling my god do you people not got one speck of humor in your bodies >
now i got to squash this thread because its getting rather stupid so lemme present to you the article from cracked
I'm just impressed he finally used a picture he didn't lift off Bartcop. THIS is progress, folks.
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Ditto monkeys don't like Bartcop!

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LABF LABF you so need to check ya facts thar ironicly enough i got it off of a humor web site cracked since you is either too lazy to check your facts or too stoopid
Yeah, Forrest, you're right: I should start getting my facts and information from the same sources as you and your buddies, i.e., the sources that assured us Romney was going to win in a landslide.
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Yeah, Forrest, you're right: I should start getting my facts and information from the same sources as you and your buddies, i.e., the sources that assured us Romney was going to win in a landslide.
Funny, huh? spdirty and dbruleu ate that **** up. I wonder if those professors from CU still have jobs.
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Funny, huh? spdirty and dbruleu ate that **** up. I wonder if those professors from CU still have jobs.
Of course they do.

CO has no shortage of right-wing idiots who are eager to be misled.
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