Have Some New Broncos Forgot Where We Came From? - The Orange Mane

baja · 11-15-2012, 08:43 AM

We don't have to look far back to remember the times when the Broncos were considered the laughing stock of the NFL. A team that was a giant disaster. A team devoid of any appreciable Pro-Bowl talent and a team that was destined to bottom feed in one of the worst divisions of the NFL.

Those times were less than 24 months ago.

Those were tough times to be a Broncos fan. I can only imagine how frustrating it must have been for players like Champ Bailey who were just hoping and praying their team would turn things around quickly enough so that he had a chance to be under those lights of the Super Bowl. In the end that's really all any NFL player can ask for. Just that chance to win the big one.

There was no chance two years ago that the Broncos were going anywhere anytime soon. There was no chance they would make it to the big dance. There was almost no chance we'd be winning our division in the foreseeable future. We had little draft stock, little trade value and a massive quarterback controversy. Success had to be years away. It's like the Broncos were stuck in Canada with no pants and winter was coming. All we could do was protect our junk.

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Crushaholic · 11-15-2012, 09:13 AM

I don't mind the new swagger. I remember a game, just a few years ago. We were blown out, by Detroit. Our players were busy yucking it up, on the sidelines. I NEVER want to go back to those days...

Requiem · 11-15-2012, 09:17 AM

Drunken.Broncoholic · 11-15-2012, 09:18 AM

I think the spiral into disaster is making this comeback/progress to a better team that much more sweeter. Some say without sour it just ain't a sweet. We hit rock bottom and Elway picked the team up. So far so good.

DENVERDUI55 · 11-15-2012, 09:19 AM

Last years team was pretty damn close to being a 4 win team. If we want to get technical it really was in reach with 4 different plays. 8-8 and a playoff win was the absolute max ceiling.

TheReverend · 11-15-2012, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Crushaholic

I don't mind the new swagger. I remember a game, just a few years ago. We were blown out, by Detroit. Our players were busy yucking it up, on the sidelines. I NEVER want to go back to those days...

This.

I credit the new attitude almost entirely to big plays on defense.

Rohirrim · 11-15-2012, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Crushaholic

I don't mind the new swagger. I remember a game, just a few years ago. We were blown out, by Detroit. Our players were busy yucking it up, on the sidelines. I NEVER want to go back to those days...

I remember that game. Man, I was pissed.

baja · 11-15-2012, 09:34 AM

I think Manning, Kupe and Champ will keep the youngsters in check.

socalorado · 11-15-2012, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

This.

I credit the new attitude almost entirely to big plays on defense.

I credit the new attitude almost entirely to our new QB....and his entirely new attitude he brought to DEN, which Elway discussed with him as the attitude Elway had in common with him, and the attitude he wanted for this team going forward.

Oh, and big plays on defense never hurt either!

spiralism · 11-15-2012, 09:38 AM

It wasnt too long ago at all that we were blowing 3 game division leads with 3 left to play...which we did twice, both including a defeat to ****ing buffalo. We just lucked out last year by virtue of being the jammiest team on the planet.

2008 though....that Sunday night debacle to end the season at San Diego is still the lowpoint for me, including 59-14. That image of Cutler sulking on the sideline while they handed our asses to us and the look of despair on the players faces...never want to see that again.

BroncoMan4ever · 11-15-2012, 09:39 AM

Another thing to consider we were a truly terrible team for 1 season and an average team for 5 years. When you look around at other teams in the league like Cleveland, Detroit, Cincinatti, Buffalo, Miami, Oakland these teams have sucked for years. Broncos fans misery was truly short lived. Elway, Fox and Bowlen really kicked ass for the fans.

broncocalijohn · 11-15-2012, 09:40 AM

"The Broncos have found their swagger back, which is great, but they are in danger of watching the pendulum swing too far the other direction and it's being spearheaded by new Broncos that don't seem to understand just how tough it used to be.
The blowout win over the Panthers demonstrated an attitude the Broncos haven't shown in years and it's an attitude that can have dangerous consequences if not channeled."

Is this guy enjoying the ride? Seems like a bleeding heart feeling sorry for the other team. Look author/blogger, no other team that came into Mile High the last decade cared to let the Salute stay with those former Broncos and did it anyways to redicule our team and fans. **** is just coming back to those other players. Furthermore, why should Von Miller be too humble when he wasn't around during the McDaniels reign?
Where I do agree on the blogger is the Holliday bull**** of showboating and almost getting embarrassed by his action. Would I rather have Carter do his own celebration then to mimic and make fun of Newton (especially at their stadium)? You bet. Become someone first Carter before ripping someone's schtick off of them. This goes for all those that come to Mile High and use the "Mile High Salute" in our stadium.

For the 2012 Broncos. Have swagger but smarts . We just don't need flava clowns.

bronco militia · 11-15-2012, 09:45 AM

one really bad year surrounded by 8-8 seasons?....at least we din't sink down to the raiders, browns, or bills level.

TheReverend · 11-15-2012, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by socalorado

I credit the new attitude almost entirely to our new QB....and his entirely new attitude he brought to DEN, which Elway discussed with him as the attitude Elway had in common with him, and the attitude he wanted for this team going forward.

Oh, and big plays on defense never hurt either!

Im positive that doesn't hurt, but the team had a LOT of fight in it last year experiencing way more adversity than it has, or will see, this year

socalorado · 11-15-2012, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Im positive that doesn't hurt, but the team had a LOT of fight in it last year experiencing way more adversity than it has, or will see, this year

I agree, the defense was what kept DEN in games last year. And Prater.
Yeah, Tebow did his thing, but now this team has a professional running the show. A real field general, both on the field in Manning and off in Elway.
I just think Mannings presence at Dove Valley is why these guys are playing the way they are. There are other factors as well though.

baja · 11-15-2012, 09:51 AM

I think the author of the article is speaking to over confidence. It is the main ingredient in losing a trap game. I am sure the coaches and vets are well aware of this and will preach focus to the younger players.

I wouldn't mind losing a trap game (just not this week) as a teaching tool if it makes all the players more focused in the playoffs. The team needs to realize they need to play hard every week or they will be upset.

broncocalijohn · 11-15-2012, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baja

I think the author of the article is speaking to over confidence. It is the main ingredient in losing a trap game. I am sure the coaches and vets are well aware of this and will preach focus to the younger players.

I wouldn't mind losing a trap game (just not this week) as a teaching tool if it makes all the players more focused in the playoffs. The team needs to realize they need to play hard every week or they will be upset.

I dont think so. It seems he wants them to be humble because we were that ****ty team just a few years ago. Afterall, it talks about the new Broncos. These Broncos weren't around when we were ****ty or mediocre so unless Bailey says something about it, they shouldn't be tied down because of the past.

spiralism · 11-15-2012, 10:04 AM

Speaking of Swagger, i would love it if we rubbed the Chargers noses in the dirt this Sunday. No team rubbed it in during that spell quite as much as they did, with players giving the salute after each TD, Rivers mouthing off on the sideline, repeated asskickings, those little faggy "our division" armbands on MNF..I for one hope we punish those pricks again

Smiling Assassin27 · 11-15-2012, 10:05 AM

During those lean years, I just kept clicking my heels together chanting, 'At least we're not the Chiefs...At least we're not the Chiefs...'

baja · 11-15-2012, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

I dont think so. It seems he wants them to be humble because we were that ****ty team just a few years ago. Afterall, it talks about the new Broncos. These Broncos weren't around when we were ****ty or mediocre so unless Bailey says something about it, they shouldn't be tied down because of the past.

Every team strives to achieve that delicate balance between swagger and cockiness. That is what I get from the article. I think it is wise to address that now for the Broncos. Any good coach would agree IMO.

Just go out there and play your game and leave the hot dogging for the losers of the NFL.

Crushaholic · 11-15-2012, 11:56 AM

I think we have the right amount of discipline, mixed with giving the opponent the feeling that they aren't winning the game. We, occasionally, have false start penalties, but we don't have too many stupid drive-killing penalties. We aren't the Raiders...YET...

Mile High Salute · 11-15-2012, 12:11 PM

There's good reason to be excited, for fans and players alike. Manning is looking great, and he's working with a better D and a better running game than he ever had in Indianapolis. I mean, Fox's record when he scores over 28 points speaks for itself...and Del Rio, wow, that defense is looking nice.

11-15-2012, 08:43 AM	#1
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,853 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Have Some New Broncos Forgot Where We Came From? We don't have to look far back to remember the times when the Broncos were considered the laughing stock of the NFL. A team that was a giant disaster. A team devoid of any appreciable Pro-Bowl talent and a team that was destined to bottom feed in one of the worst divisions of the NFL. Those times were less than 24 months ago. Those were tough times to be a Broncos fan. I can only imagine how frustrating it must have been for players like Champ Bailey who were just hoping and praying their team would turn things around quickly enough so that he had a chance to be under those lights of the Super Bowl. In the end that's really all any NFL player can ask for. Just that chance to win the big one. There was no chance two years ago that the Broncos were going anywhere anytime soon. There was no chance they would make it to the big dance. There was almost no chance we'd be winning our division in the foreseeable future. We had little draft stock, little trade value and a massive quarterback controversy. Success had to be years away. It's like the Broncos were stuck in Canada with no pants and winter was coming. All we could do was protect our junk. Read the rest here; http://www.milehighreport.com/2012/1...e-we-came-from

11-15-2012, 09:17 AM	#3
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spiralism Pro Bowler Need to get away from it all? Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Galway, Ireland Posts: 614 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brandon Stokely	Speaking of Swagger, i would love it if we rubbed the Chargers noses in the dirt this Sunday. No team rubbed it in during that spell quite as much as they did, with players giving the salute after each TD, Rivers mouthing off on the sideline, repeated asskickings, those little faggy "our division" armbands on MNF..I for one hope we punish those pricks again Last edited by spiralism; 11-15-2012 at 10:33 AM..

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11-15-2012, 09:13 AM	#2
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,043	I don't mind the new swagger. I remember a game, just a few years ago. We were blown out, by Detroit. Our players were busy yucking it up, on the sidelines. I NEVER want to go back to those days...

11-15-2012, 09:18 AM	#4
Drunken.Broncoholic Steppin on feet Pickled in Orange and Blue Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Carmel Ca Posts: 6,232 Adopt-a-Bronco: LeLo Lang	I think the spiral into disaster is making this comeback/progress to a better team that much more sweeter. Some say without sour it just ain't a sweet. We hit rock bottom and Elway picked the team up. So far so good.

11-15-2012, 09:19 AM	#5
DENVERDUI55 Drunk on Arrival! New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,154 Adopt-a-Bronco: Montee Ball	Last years team was pretty damn close to being a 4 win team. If we want to get technical it really was in reach with 4 different plays. 8-8 and a playoff win was the absolute max ceiling.

11-15-2012, 09:34 AM	#8
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,853 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	I think Manning, Kupe and Champ will keep the youngsters in check.

11-15-2012, 09:38 AM	#10
spiralism Pro Bowler Need to get away from it all? Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Galway, Ireland Posts: 614 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brandon Stokely	It wasnt too long ago at all that we were blowing 3 game division leads with 3 left to play...which we did twice, both including a defeat to ****ing buffalo. We just lucked out last year by virtue of being the jammiest team on the planet. 2008 though....that Sunday night debacle to end the season at San Diego is still the lowpoint for me, including 59-14. That image of Cutler sulking on the sideline while they handed our asses to us and the look of despair on the players faces...never want to see that again.

11-15-2012, 09:39 AM	#11
BroncoMan4ever Ring of Famer Here to chew bubblegum and kick ass Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 11,565 Adopt-a-Bronco: VIRGIL GREEN!!!	Another thing to consider we were a truly terrible team for 1 season and an average team for 5 years. When you look around at other teams in the league like Cleveland, Detroit, Cincinatti, Buffalo, Miami, Oakland these teams have sucked for years. Broncos fans misery was truly short lived. Elway, Fox and Bowlen really kicked ass for the fans.

11-15-2012, 09:40 AM	#12
broncocalijohn Famer of Rings My Dog Richard Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lake Forest, Orange County, Calif. Posts: 18,463 Adopt-a-Bronco: Simon Fletcher	"The Broncos have found their swagger back, which is great, but they are in danger of watching the pendulum swing too far the other direction and it's being spearheaded by new Broncos that don't seem to understand just how tough it used to be. The blowout win over the Panthers demonstrated an attitude the Broncos haven't shown in years and it's an attitude that can have dangerous consequences if not channeled." Is this guy enjoying the ride? Seems like a bleeding heart feeling sorry for the other team. Look author/blogger, no other team that came into Mile High the last decade cared to let the Salute stay with those former Broncos and did it anyways to redicule our team and fans. ** is just coming back to those other players. Furthermore, why should Von Miller be too humble when he wasn't around during the McDaniels reign? Where I do agree on the blogger is the Holliday bull** of showboating and almost getting embarrassed by his action. Would I rather have Carter do his own celebration then to mimic and make fun of Newton (especially at their stadium)? You bet. Become someone first Carter before ripping someone's schtick off of them. This goes for all those that come to Mile High and use the "Mile High Salute" in our stadium. For the 2012 Broncos. Have swagger but smarts . We just don't need flava clowns.

11-15-2012, 09:45 AM	#13
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,584	one really bad year surrounded by 8-8 seasons?....at least we din't sink down to the raiders, browns, or bills level.

11-15-2012, 09:51 AM	#16
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,853 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	I think the author of the article is speaking to over confidence. It is the main ingredient in losing a trap game. I am sure the coaches and vets are well aware of this and will preach focus to the younger players. I wouldn't mind losing a trap game (just not this week) as a teaching tool if it makes all the players more focused in the playoffs. The team needs to realize they need to play hard every week or they will be upset.

11-15-2012, 10:05 AM	#19
Smiling Assassin27 STOP! KIPER TIME! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 10,970 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	During those lean years, I just kept clicking my heels together chanting, 'At least we're not the Chiefs...At least we're not the Chiefs...'

11-15-2012, 11:56 AM	#21
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,043	I think we have the right amount of discipline, mixed with giving the opponent the feeling that they aren't winning the game. We, occasionally, have false start penalties, but we don't have too many stupid drive-killing penalties. We aren't the Raiders...YET...

11-15-2012, 12:11 PM	#22
Mile High Salute Elway's Little Helper Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Mile High City Posts: 207 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rahim Moore	There's good reason to be excited, for fans and players alike. Manning is looking great, and he's working with a better D and a better running game than he ever had in Indianapolis. I mean, Fox's record when he scores over 28 points speaks for itself...and Del Rio, wow, that defense is looking nice.