58% of the time we run on 1st down 100% of the time - The Orange Mane

Gutless Drunk · 11-11-2012, 05:15 PM

1st down run vs. pass breakdown

PIT - 5-2 - 71%
ATL- 6-6 - 50%
HOU- 7-7 - 50%
OAK - 7-2- 78%
NE- 4-5 - 44%
SD- 5-4 - 56%
NO- 8-4- 67%
CIN- 4-5 - 44%
CAR -9-5 - 64%

TOTAL -55-40 - 58% RUN

We are close to being the "sex panther" of 1st down runs:

Crushaholic · 11-11-2012, 05:23 PM

Go F yourself, San Diego...

baja · 11-11-2012, 05:31 PM

I think Manning uses those runs to study the defense's reactions. As the game settles in he has a good idea what he wants to do with the play action so there is more the the first down runs than meets the eye especially early in the game.

Gutless Drunk · 11-11-2012, 05:35 PM

I actually thought it would be a lot higher. I did the numbers to support the theory that we are too predictable on 1st down. The numbers didn't really bear that out.

Garcia Bronco · 11-11-2012, 05:42 PM

It stinges the nostrils, but I wish Willis smelled like pure gasoline.

errand · 11-11-2012, 05:46 PM

In games 5-8 we ran the ball 60 times (47%) and passed it 67 times (53%) on 1st down....

http://www.milehighreport.com/2012/1...peyton-manning

Agamemnon · 11-11-2012, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gutless Drunk

I actually thought it would be a lot higher. I did the numbers to support the theory that we are too predictable on 1st down. The numbers didn't really bear that out.

The problem is that you are taking all their 1st downs into account. If you look at our 1st downs when we have the lead or are tied I'm willing to bet your theory proves correct. Just because we start throwing on 1st down when things get dicey, doesn't mean we don't have predictable tendencies otherwise.

ZONA · 11-11-2012, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gutless Drunk

1st down run vs. pass breakdown

PIT - 5-2 - 71%
ATL- 6-6 - 50%
HOU- 7-7 - 50%
OAK - 7-2- 78%
NE- 4-5 - 44%
SD- 5-4 - 56%
NO- 8-4- 67%
CIN- 4-5 - 44%
CAR -9-5 - 64%

TOTAL -55-40 - 58% RUN

We are close to being the "sex panther" of 1st down runs:

That's one of the funniest moments in that movie and I know alot of people miss that one.

Gutless Drunk · 11-11-2012, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

The problem is that you are taking all their 1st downs into account. If you look at our 1st downs when we have the lead or are tied I'm willing to bet your theory proves correct. Just because we start throwing on 1st down when things get dicey, doesn't mean we don't have predictable tendencies otherwise.

Yea, I knew someone would bring this up. As I did this, I really did not get that sense either. It seemed like the balance was about the same whether it was earlier or later in the game. I did not feel like verifying that, but subjectively I did not get that sense.

11-11-2012, 05:15 PM	#1
Gutless Drunk Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 925 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	58% of the time we run on 1st down 100% of the time 1st down run vs. pass breakdown PIT - 5-2 - 71% ATL- 6-6 - 50% HOU- 7-7 - 50% OAK - 7-2- 78% NE- 4-5 - 44% SD- 5-4 - 56% NO- 8-4- 67% CIN- 4-5 - 44% CAR -9-5 - 64% TOTAL -55-40 - 58% RUN We are close to being the "sex panther" of 1st down runs:

11-11-2012, 05:46 PM	#6
errand Ring of Famer Forgot more than you'll ever know Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Western NC mountains Posts: 15,051	In games 5-8 we ran the ball 60 times (47%) and passed it 67 times (53%) on 1st down.... http://www.milehighreport.com/2012/1...peyton-manning Last edited by errand; 11-11-2012 at 05:50 PM..

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11-11-2012, 05:23 PM	#2
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,043	Go F yourself, San Diego...

11-11-2012, 05:31 PM	#3
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,865 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	I think Manning uses those runs to study the defense's reactions. As the game settles in he has a good idea what he wants to do with the play action so there is more the the first down runs than meets the eye especially early in the game.

11-11-2012, 05:35 PM	#4
Gutless Drunk Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 925 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I actually thought it would be a lot higher. I did the numbers to support the theory that we are too predictable on 1st down. The numbers didn't really bear that out.

11-11-2012, 05:42 PM	#5
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	It stinges the nostrils, but I wish Willis smelled like pure gasoline.