Tony Carter is the most difficult CB to compete a pass against in the entire NFL - The Orange Mane

prunch · 11-06-2012, 04:22 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/undraft...7580--nfl.html

"Combined, Chris Harris and Tony Carter have allowed just 23 completions in 59 attempts, and Carter is the toughest cornerback in the NFL to complete a pass against, according to STATS LLC.
Moving into the starting lineup opposite Champ Bailey, Harris has allowed only 16 completions in 34 passes thrown his way, and he's broken up a half-dozen throws.
Carter, who is playing in both the nickel and dime packages, is allowing a league-low completion percentage of just 28 (7 receptions in 25 attempts) among the league's 103 cornerbacks and who have been targeted at least 15 times.
Just as impressively, Carter has broken up as many passes as catches he's allowed."

Bacchus · 11-06-2012, 04:27 PM

That is friggin awesome!

Bigdawg26 · 11-06-2012, 04:30 PM

I dunno, but he kinda reminds me of Foxworth when he was here. A thin cornerback that makes plays.

Action · 11-06-2012, 04:32 PM

Yeah, I had already assumed this since I've been watching him play. I don't have the resources to find statistics, but I'm pretty sure Tony Carter has been locking down everyone he's been covering the past few starts.

Locking down, Champ Bailey elite status.

I'm not sure how they bench Tony Carter at this point TBH... he's literally playing like the best cover DB in the league.

BroncoMan4ever · 11-06-2012, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigdawg26

I dunno, but he kinda reminds me of Foxworth when he was here. A thin cornerback that makes plays.

He's better than Foxworth was.

HooptyHoops · 11-06-2012, 05:01 PM

This is awesome! I was so worried about our corners at the beginning of the year, and now it seems to be a Strength!

DBroncos4life · 11-06-2012, 05:05 PM

Teams are going to start attacking Bailey.

OrangeSe7en · 11-06-2012, 05:20 PM

It's definitely been an unexpected bonus. Harris was showing promise last year but Carter has really had a break through this year.

yerner · 11-06-2012, 05:27 PM

by far my favorite to watch right now. don't know anything about him though.

errand · 11-06-2012, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Action

Yeah, I had already assumed this since I've been watching him play. I don't have the resources to find statistics, but I'm pretty sure Tony Carter has been locking down everyone he's been covering the past few starts.

Locking down, Champ Bailey elite status.

I'm not sure how they bench Tony Carter at this point TBH... he's literally playing like the best cover DB in the league.

It's good that our 3rd Cb is better than most team's 3rd WR......

SportinOne · 11-06-2012, 05:34 PM

And I suppose I will take this opportunity to say that Rahim More has looked very solid lately. It's a shame Quinton Carter got hurt or that secondary would be even more beastly. What do we do with Porter when he's ready to play again? As far as nickel corners go, he'd have to be the best in the NFL wouldn't he?

Steve Prefontaine · 11-06-2012, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigdawg26

I dunno, but he kinda reminds me of Foxworth when he was here. A thin cornerback that makes plays.

I really don't remember Foxworth making many plays. He played such soft coverage compared to Carter and Harris.

errand · 11-06-2012, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yerner

by far my favorite to watch right now. don't know anything about him though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Carter_(cornerback)

lonestar · 11-06-2012, 06:18 PM

If Carter and Harris keep learning then we may have a replacement for Champ when he hangs them up..

Although having Champ on the other side I think skews some of the numbers..
his presence means that one Side of the field is taken away from the QB and thus gives the DL time to put more pressure on..

Time will tell..

FWIW Foxworth never impressed me..

Inkana7 · 11-06-2012, 06:31 PM

Carter has really, really impressed me. He and Carter both play with fantastic technique and are really good press man corners, and these skills combined with our pass rush are deadly. We really haven't seen how Carter is at tackling yet, but it's hard to be worse than Porter at that.

broncosteven · 11-06-2012, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigdawg26

I dunno, but he kinda reminds me of Foxworth when he was here. A thin cornerback that makes plays.

He is more short than thin and he is much better than Fox was.

Carter got owned by Jeffery a couple times when I saw him play vs duh bears in PS but that was because he gave up about a foot. When I saw the mismatch I told my daughter to watch him and sure enough he gave up a couple catches.

Carter didn't play much early but has gotten much better after getting pressed into action due to Harris's injury.

Carter can elevate but he shouldn't be on tall guys like Jeffery or Johnson. That said he can elevate and has a lot of explosiveness.

Plus he has excellent man skills.

It is nice when guys like him make the roster and then make an impact!

KipCorrington25 · 11-06-2012, 06:37 PM

Foxworth sucked, that year he got cut he was beaten by scrubs all pre season...

Action · 11-06-2012, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lonestar

If Carter and Harris keep learning then we may have a replacement for Champ when he hangs them up..

Although having Champ on the other side I think skews some of the numbers..
his presence means that one Side of the field is taken away from the QB and thus gives the DL time to put more pressure on..

Time will tell..

FWIW Foxworth never impressed me..

This post made absolutely no sense.

How does having Champ on one side skew the numbers for the other cornerbacks in an advantageous way?

broncosteven · 11-06-2012, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Action

This post made absolutely no sense.

How does having Champ on one side skew the numbers for the other cornerbacks in an advantageous way?

I don't think Lonestar watched the Cincy game. Champ gave up a TD and a long pass to Green, they went at Champ quite a bit, he gave as good as he got though coming up with a game sealing INT.

Lonestar is wrong yet again.

FWIW I don't thing the back to back SB wins impressed him either.

swaiy · 11-06-2012, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by errand

It's good that our 3rd Cb is better than most team's 3rd WR......

Wouldnt he be better than most teams' number 2 since Tony Carter plays outside in nickel situations or do I have it backwards?

cabronco · 11-06-2012, 06:52 PM

Tony Carter has been very impressive so far. I'm not sure how we aquired him, will need to research some. I also thought on a play in last Sundays game when Gresham was running down the sidelines, and I thought Moore was going to tackle Gresham. Carter was chasing him down too, but looked like he was getting held on his shoulder pad. Thought that was for sure going to be a flag. Oh well, I like the guys hustle and always seems be in good position.

Binkythefrog · 11-06-2012, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabronco

Tony Carter has been very impressive so far. I'm not sure how we aquired him, will need to research some. I also thought on a play in last Sundays game when Gresham was running down the sidelines, and I thought Moore was going to tackle Gresham. Carter was chasing him down too, but looked like he was getting held on his shoulder pad. Thought that was for sure going to be a flag. Oh well, I like the guys hustle and always seems be in good position.

Denver took him as an un-drafted free agent, and then he went to New England, and then Minnesota and then came back to Denver in the middle of last season.

I remember hearing something weird on a NFL Network highlight of the Chargers game when Deion Sanders (I think) said he trained with Carter in the offseason (not sure if this is even true) but Neon Deon was one of the best pure cover players ever. Obviously this is light rail quality stuff.. but maybe it helped.

errand · 11-06-2012, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Binkythefrog

Denver took him as an un-drafted free agent, and then he went to New England, and then Minnesota and then came back to Denver in the middle of last season.

I remember hearing something weird on a NFL Network highlight of the Chargers game when Deion Sanders (I think) said he trained with Carter in the offseason (not sure if this is even true) but Neon Deon was one of the best pure cover players ever. Obviously this is light rail quality stuff.. but maybe it helped.

Sanders probably did help him some as they both graduated from FSU....

errand · 11-06-2012, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swaiy

Wouldnt he be better than most teams' number 2 since Tony Carter plays outside in nickel situations or do I have it backwards?

Perhaps...not sure....but let's just say we have the ability to put 3 quality CB's on the field more often than opponents can put 3 quality WR's

swaiy · 11-06-2012, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by errand

Perhaps...not sure....but let's just say we have the ability to put 3 quality CB's on the field more often than opponents can put 3 quality WR's

4 if you count Porter (when he gets his seizures squared away).

11-06-2012, 04:22 PM	#1
prunch Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 358 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Tony Carter is the most difficult CB to compete a pass against in the entire NFL http://sports.yahoo.com/news/undraft...7580--nfl.html "Combined, Chris Harris and Tony Carter have allowed just 23 completions in 59 attempts, and Carter is the toughest cornerback in the NFL to complete a pass against, according to STATS LLC. Moving into the starting lineup opposite Champ Bailey, Harris has allowed only 16 completions in 34 passes thrown his way, and he's broken up a half-dozen throws. Carter, who is playing in both the nickel and dime packages, is allowing a league-low completion percentage of just 28 (7 receptions in 25 attempts) among the league's 103 cornerbacks and who have been targeted at least 15 times. Just as impressively, Carter has broken up as many passes as catches he's allowed."

11-06-2012, 04:32 PM	#4
Action Perennial Pro-bowler New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 891 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Yeah, I had already assumed this since I've been watching him play. I don't have the resources to find statistics, but I'm pretty sure Tony Carter has been locking down everyone he's been covering the past few starts. Locking down, Champ Bailey elite status. I'm not sure how they bench Tony Carter at this point TBH... he's literally playing like the best cover DB in the league. Last edited by Action; 11-06-2012 at 04:34 PM..

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

11-06-2012, 04:27 PM	#2
Bacchus I'm buying Infraspinatus Fascia Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 5,562 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	That is friggin awesome!

11-06-2012, 04:30 PM	#3
Bigdawg26 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,481 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I dunno, but he kinda reminds me of Foxworth when he was here. A thin cornerback that makes plays.

11-06-2012, 05:01 PM	#6
HooptyHoops We need a DE C'mon D Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: West Des Moines, IA Posts: 1,673 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	This is awesome! I was so worried about our corners at the beginning of the year, and now it seems to be a Strength!

11-06-2012, 05:05 PM	#7
DBroncos4life Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU Why yes, that is Bacon Bacon. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The wrong side of right. Posts: 26,929 Adopt-a-Bronco: Julius "Fluff"	Teams are going to start attacking Bailey.

11-06-2012, 05:20 PM	#8
OrangeSe7en Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,733 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	It's definitely been an unexpected bonus. Harris was showing promise last year but Carter has really had a break through this year.

11-06-2012, 05:27 PM	#9
yerner Ring of Famer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Charlottesville VA Posts: 3,314	by far my favorite to watch right now. don't know anything about him though.

11-06-2012, 05:34 PM	#11
SportinOne Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,438	And I suppose I will take this opportunity to say that Rahim More has looked very solid lately. It's a shame Quinton Carter got hurt or that secondary would be even more beastly. What do we do with Porter when he's ready to play again? As far as nickel corners go, he'd have to be the best in the NFL wouldn't he?

11-06-2012, 06:18 PM	#14
lonestar Day One Fan Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West Texas Posts: 6,213 Adopt-a-Bronco: Decker	If Carter and Harris keep learning then we may have a replacement for Champ when he hangs them up.. Although having Champ on the other side I think skews some of the numbers.. his presence means that one Side of the field is taken away from the QB and thus gives the DL time to put more pressure on.. Time will tell.. FWIW Foxworth never impressed me..

11-06-2012, 06:31 PM	#15
Inkana7 Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,232 Adopt-a-Bronco: Derek Wolfe	Carter has really, really impressed me. He and Carter both play with fantastic technique and are really good press man corners, and these skills combined with our pass rush are deadly. We really haven't seen how Carter is at tackling yet, but it's hard to be worse than Porter at that.

11-06-2012, 06:37 PM	#17
KipCorrington25 Free Safety Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Centennial Posts: 3,062	Foxworth sucked, that year he got cut he was beaten by scrubs all pre season...

11-06-2012, 06:52 PM	#21
cabronco Fish & Chips PFM Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: So.Cal. Posts: 5,471 Adopt-a-Bronco: wth happened	Tony Carter has been very impressive so far. I'm not sure how we aquired him, will need to research some. I also thought on a play in last Sundays game when Gresham was running down the sidelines, and I thought Moore was going to tackle Gresham. Carter was chasing him down too, but looked like he was getting held on his shoulder pad. Thought that was for sure going to be a flag. Oh well, I like the guys hustle and always seems be in good position.