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Old 05-16-2013, 09:17 PM   #451
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Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. The proggies used to felate him over it and how it proved his Commander's prowess...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/op...pagewanted=all

Now all the sudden they want to pretend like all this **** goes on on autopilot while forces get put on the sidelines during an assault on an American Embassy without any input from him.
Yep, every situation is identical. Well done, you nailed it.
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:19 PM   #452
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So did Obama make the call to take Osama out or was that really someone else?
Couldn't understand the Pentagon timeline?

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Old 05-16-2013, 09:23 PM   #453
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Couldn't understand the Pentagon timeline?

I'll look for a pic, one that you can color.
Truth is nobody posting here has any idea what really went down.

Rather than name calling maybe waiting for the results of the investigation assuming there will be a real investigation which would be a refreshing change.
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:26 PM   #454
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Yep, every situation is identical. Well done, you nailed it.
You're right. That other situation everyone credited Obama for was much more trivial.
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:33 PM   #455
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]Truth is nobody posting here has any idea what really went down. [/B]

Rather than name calling maybe waiting for the results of the investigation assuming there will be a real investigation which would be a refreshing change.
Nor do some care about what really went down, only partisan politics matter.
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:35 PM   #456
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Nor do some care about what really went down, only partisan politics matter.

I have found that fact exasperating for years now.

To think a nation of relatively free and reasonably educated citizens could fall so easily to the ruse of a government seeming to have two parties and that it somehow matters which one is in the seat of power. So easily fooled it is scary

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Got to love all the drama drummed up over a nothing Burger.
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http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/05...proving/193981
it was the military that made the call,cuz they thought it more important to protect the embassy at Tripoli,where hicks was at.
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So did Obama make the call to take Osama out or was that really someone else?
Two completely different situations.

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Old 05-16-2013, 11:06 PM   #460
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It was wierd watching John Stewert make fun of Obama the other night. bad for Obama though because young people get their news from him.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:08 PM   #461
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The white house puts out so much confusing information you end up not knowing who did what, said what or when. They contradict each other so much its pretty confusing.

I think his whole routine of acting like he didn't know anything until the media reported it starting to backfire. Everyone really knows the President hears about all the big things before we do. John Stewerts joke Obama heard about Osama being killed when he watched himself on TV was pretty funny.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:38 PM   #462
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It was wierd watching John Stewert make fun of Obama the other night. bad for Obama though because young people get their news from him.
That's not a good thing for rethugs/conservatives,considering he's having a laugh at their expense every other night.
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http://theweek.com/article/index/244...nghazi-emails#
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Old 05-17-2013, 05:35 AM   #465
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That's not a good thing for rethugs/conservatives,considering he's having a laugh at their expense every other night.
Oh I agree 100% peacepipe. Repubs have got to counter with a younger hipper guy on TV to combat the MTV style the liberals have went to. I just have no idea if that person exists yet. I agree right now the dems doing a better job then the republicans on PR, campaigning, tv shows, etc. I still think that their record governing not great and eventually it catches up to them.

These scandals may not be huge but they will help leading into 2014. Then I hoping for a ticket like Christie/Martinez which I think would be very tough on any democrat. Christie does well with independants and Susana Martinez is killing it as gov of new mexico. She could really help by being a woman, from a swing state, and a latino. She used to be a democrat and can maybe still appeal to some of the more conservative ones.
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So if repubs do well in 2014 midterms, and nominate the right people in 2016 who knows the liberal power grab could be over.
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So if repubs do well in 2014 midterms, and nominate the right people in 2016 who knows the liberal power grab could be over.
Suppose I can't blame you for having hope.
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http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...te.php?ref=fpb

And people wonder why younger voters vote Democratic.
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Old 05-17-2013, 06:27 AM   #469
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And people wonder why younger voters vote Democratic.
That's comical. Proggies want them to vote in state as residents and then bill them for tuition as if they're not residents.

Guess that fat check is what's most important to them.
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The list of mea culpas by Obama administration officials involved in the Benghazi response and aftermath include: standing down the counterterrorism Foreign Emergency Support Team, failing to convene the Counterterrorism Security Group, failing to release the disputed Benghazi "talking points" when Congress asked for them, and using the word "spontaneous" while avoiding the word "terrorism."

The emergency response: "I wish we'd sent FEST"
The Foreign Emergency Support Team known as "FEST" is described as "the US Government's only interagency, on-call, short-notice team poised to respond to terrorist incidents worldwide." It even boasts hostage-negotiating expertise. With U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens reported missing shortly after the Benghazi attacks began, Washington officials were operating under a possible hostage scenario at the outset. Yet deployment of the counterterrorism experts on the FEST was ruled out from the start. That decision became a source of great internal dissent and the cause of puzzlement to some outsiders.
Hey look, another incredibly important decision I'm sure the President was completely unaware of. And there's that damn "Standing Down" phrase again.

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Nonetheless, in the eight months since the attacks, this is the most sweeping and detailed discussion by key players of what might have been done differently.

"We're portrayed by Republicans as either being lying or idiots," said one Obama administration official who was part of the Benghazi response. "It's actually closer to us being idiots."
Wow.

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So if repubs do well in 2014 midterms, and nominate the right people in 2016 who knows the liberal power grab could be over.
"Liberal power grab?"
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"Liberal power grab?"
AKA "Democracy"



If "getting elected" is a "power grab", what's gerrymandering the **** out of the districts so you have no choice but to be elected?

Hey cut...do you know how elections work??
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AKA "Democracy"



If "getting elected" is a "power grab", what's gerrymandering the **** out of the districts so you have no choice but to be elected?

Hey cut...do you know how elections work??
Liberals have been in full retreat for thirty years.
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Benghazi update.

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Benghazi report: AFRICOM general offered ambassador help before attack

Jan. 15, 2014 - 02:12PM
WASHINGTON — The Senate Intelligence Committee on Wednesday released a report on the deadly 2012 assault on the diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, blaming the State Department, the intelligence
community and even the late Ambassador Chris Stevens for failing to communicate and heed warnings of terrorist activity in the area.

The highly critical report says the U.S. military was not positioned to help the Americans in need, though the head of Africa Command had offered military security teams that Stevens — who was killed — had rejected weeks before the attack.

Republicans have criticized the Obama administration over the Benghazi assault, in part because then-U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice initially blamed the violence on mob protests over an anti-Islamic film.

Al-Qaida-linked militant groups later were blamed.

Militants overran the temporary U.S. mission on Sept. 11, 2012, and later that night, when militants fired mortars at the nearby CIA annex where the Americans had taken shelter.

Republicans have said the Obama administration has been covering up what they consider misdeeds before, during and after the attack.

Committee chairman Dianne Feinstein, says she hopes the report will put to rest conspiracy theories about the militant attacks that night. Vice chairman Saxby Chambliss says the report shows despite a deteriorating security situation in Benghazi, the U.S. government did not do enough to prevent the attacks or to protect the diplomatic facility.

The Senate report notes that the State Department has created a new assistant secretary position for high-threat posts to focus on such dangerous areas, but it says the department should react more quickly to security threats and only in rare instances use facilities that are inadequately protected.

The report also says the State Department should not rely on local security alone in countries where the host government cannot provide adequate protection.

The report notes that the State Department in 2012 continued to operate the Benghazi facility, despite U.S. intelligence reports showing the danger was growing.

The report faults the military for being unable to help when needed. “No U.S. military resources in position to intervene in short order in Benghazi to help defend” the U.S. facilities in Benghazi, it says.

Yet it points out that Stevens had rejected additional security. The Defense Department had provided a Site Security Team in Tripoli, made up of 16 special operations personnel to provide security and other help. The report says the State Department decided not to extend the team’s mission in August 2012, one month before the attack.

In the weeks that followed, Gen. Carter Ham, the head of Africa Command, twice asked Stevens to employ the team, and twice Stevens declined, the report said.

The report also says, “Intelligence analysts inaccurately referred to the presence of a protest at the U.S. mission facility before the attack based on open source information and limited intelligence, but without sufficient intelligence or eyewitness statements to corroborate that assertion.”

The report says the U.S. intelligence community then took too long to correct their error.

The senators also criticize the Obama administration for failing to bring the attackers to justice more than a year after the Benghazi attacks. It says U.S. intelligence has identified several individuals responsible, but can’t track them down because of limited intelligence capabilities in the region.

White House spokesman Jay Carney said a number of the committee’s security recommendations are consistent with steps the State Department has already taken.
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