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![]() I hope everyone realizes that these hearings were televised on C-SPAN and that there IS an official version of the testimony.
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Got any reason why Obama would willfully stop the CIA or Pentagon from taking action?? A motive?? Another part of the story is that there were not enough 'assets' to cover Benghazi AND Tripoli, and that there had been reports that Tripoli was a target too. I haven't read all the testimony, so I don't know if that was discussed. Was it? |
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Next you'll start arguing with me about what the meaning of the word 'is' is. ![]() Your defense of this administration (for such a seeker of truth) is getting awfully lawyerly. |
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According to Hicks testimony, they were told not to get on the plane by the Pentagon. Your assertion is that Obama did it, I'm still waiting to see where you get that from. Here is another 'explanation.' Quote:
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How could he possibly know how long the firefight would last? They didn't send help......so we'll never know if it would have arrived in time. |
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![]() Exactly....the President is the guy who makes that call. which is why the president always sends in the Marines first....because he doesn't need Congressional approval to do so.
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I have found nothing to indicate that the POTUS has to approve sending assistance under those circumstances, or that he denied aid directly or otherwise. If it is 'law,' or he did deny aid, please link it. Snopes covers some of these points, and labels them 'undecided.' Which is hardly surprising. http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/benghazi.asp |
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![]() Seems to me the fighting lasted for over 4 hours....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=_UyterFoRGU https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=VZ_G24_85ws |
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See. there's this thing called "a chain of command" ....it all starts with the President who tells the Chiefs of Staff who tell those below them, and so on and so on...... these lower level troops etc. don't get calls from president himself....they receive orders to go in or stand down as they're passed down from him though. you recall the Somali pirates who were shot by our troops to rescue that ship's captain? Obama is the one who gave the order to "take them out"...and that order was passed down to the sniper who squeezed the trigger. Last edited by errand; 05-16-2013 at 07:04 PM.. |
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Whatever dude...it doesn't change the timeline of events, and if you bothered to watch it you'd have noticed the fighting didn't stop until approximately 6-7 hours after the attacks started........plenty of time to have flown a jet or send a platoon of Marines in. We have military base in Italy less than 500 miles away.....we have US naval ships aircraft carriers patrolling in the med all the time....with Marine Amphibious Units on them.(MAU) As a former Marine who was on several med floats in my time...I can honestly say that help could have gotten there in time to have saved the lives of those guys who were killed by mortar fire on the roofs. |
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While I respect your service to the country, you're expertise seems at odds with.....the experts. As I suggested, dig a little deeper than FOX. Quote:
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![]() You forgot to mention the future telling machine they used at the time of the attacks to tell them how long the attacks would last.
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Assuming it's accurate, the attack lasted less than two hours. Pentagon releases official timeline of Benghazi attack Quote:
9:59 p.m. -- A surveillance drone is directed to fly over the U.S. compound, but it is unarmed. 10:32 p.m. -- The Office of the Secretary Defense and the Joint Staff are notified of the attack by the National Military Command Center at the Pentagon. "The information is quickly passed to Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey." 11 p.m. -- Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey meet with President Obama at the White House where they discuss the unfolding situation and how to respond. The meeting had been previously scheduled. 11:10 p.m. -- The surveillance drone arrives over the Benghazi facility. 11:30 p.m. -- All surviving U.S. personnel are evacuated from the consulate. U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and State Department computer expert Sean Smith were killed in the initial assault. http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/09/world/...ghazi-timeline |
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![]() Why did the Republicans alter the emails?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_16...lier-reported/ On Friday, Republicans leaked what they said was a quote from Rhodes: "We must make sure that the talking points reflect all agency equities, including those of the State Department, and we don't want to undermine the FBI investigation." But it turns out that in the actual email, Rhodes did not mention the State Department. It read: "We need to resolve this in a way that respects all of the relevant equities, particularly the investigation." Republicans also provided what they said was a quote from an email written by State Department spokesman Victoria Nuland. The Republican version quotes Nuland discussing, "The penultimate point is a paragraph talking about all the previous warnings provided by the Agency (CIA) about al-Qaeda's presence and activities of al-Qaeda." The actual email from Nuland says: "The penultimate point could be abused by members to beat the State Department for not paying attention to Agency warnings." |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/op...pagewanted=all Now all the sudden they want to pretend like all this **** goes on on autopilot while forces get put on the sidelines during an assault on an American Embassy without any input from him. ![]() |
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