Anyone else concerned... - The Orange Mane

TerrElway · 10-22-2012, 07:51 AM

...about the Saints game?

Their offense has started to roll and they are starting to get coaches and players back. Everyone acts like it's a cake-walk for the Broncos from here on out but for some reason this game scares the hell right out of me.

I try to calm myself by telling myself that the Saints last two wins have been against the Chargers and Bucs but the Broncos last two wins have been against Oakland and the Chargers so, with apologies to Woody Paige and his revised prediction of 12 wins, I'm not convinced that suddenly the Orange and Blue are a juggernaut on it's way to the Super Bowl.

Please slap me back into full on homer mode oh true believers!

Smiling Assassin27 · 10-22-2012, 07:53 AM

No, I'm on board with that take. The Saints are a scary bunch and are nowhere near the dumpster fire they were to start the season. Their defense is still pretty bad, however, so if we can get the run game going, we can offset that resurgent passing game.

TheElusiveKyleOrton · 10-22-2012, 08:04 AM

No, I'm with you. Saints scare the crap out of me. I'm hoping that a loud and rockin' SAF@MH will deliver for us, and that Peyton will take care of business at home, but that's far from a guarantee.

2KBack · 10-22-2012, 08:07 AM

I have no doubts that we can score on NO....I also have no doubts they can score on us...I just hope we do it more

Boobs McGee · 10-22-2012, 08:08 AM

Completely agree. This is NOT going to be an easy game. It looks like they're starting to hit their stride a bit, even though BOTH San Diego and the Bucs have some of the worst secondary play in the league (ranked 25th and 31st against the pass). Graham is injured, but their receivers are getting healthier, and that's scary :/

I see our D doing a MUCH better job than their last two opponents, but it's Drew Fricking Brees, and THAT is the part that worries me the most.

DENVERDUI55 · 10-22-2012, 08:14 AM

If we avoid turning the ball over then I think we can beat them in a shoot out. If we turn the ball over like we have been it could be ugly.

2KBack · 10-22-2012, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Boobs McGee

Completely agree. This is NOT going to be an easy game. It looks like they're starting to hit their stride a bit, even though BOTH San Diego and the Bucs have some of the worst secondary play in the league (ranked 25th and 31st against the pass). Graham is injured, but their receivers are getting healthier, and that's scary :/

I see our D doing a MUCH better job than their last two opponents, but it's Drew Fricking Brees, and THAT is the part that worries me the most.

I'm not concerned with their receivers actually, I would be concerned if Jimmy Graham comes back....Number one concern: Sproles

Rohirrim · 10-22-2012, 08:20 AM

Only a fool wouldn't be apprehensive about going up against Drew Brees.

Boobs McGee · 10-22-2012, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

I'm not concerned with their receivers actually, I would be concerned if Jimmy Graham comes back....Number one concern: Sproles

I partially agree...yes, they've played poorly, but they're STILL ranked 1st in the league in YPG for passing. Sproles worries me, but I think there's a legit concern with their passing attack.

hades · 10-22-2012, 08:34 AM

All we need is for John Lynch to walk the sidelines before the game and look/point at Drew. He'll have flashbacks and go into panic mode, then unleash Von and Doom!

Rabb · 10-22-2012, 08:43 AM

totally agreed

ElwayMD · 10-22-2012, 08:46 AM

NO will get their points. If we can keep their Offense out of rhythm we have a great chance of keeping them under 30. If we don't shoot ourselves in the foot like we have in every game but Oakland, we should be able to put 30 on them.

jmz313 · 10-22-2012, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Only a fool wouldn't be apprehensive about going up against Drew Brees.

This....

And lets just face it, there really aren't any easy games in the NFL anymore.

gyldenlove · 10-22-2012, 08:50 AM

We can beat the Saints if we avoid mistakes. Our defense is quite a bit better than their defense and as long as Jimmy Graham is not playing the offenses are about equal.

I watched them play the Chargers and the Bucs, it is quite obvious that the way to try to stop their offense is by jamming at the line and trying to get pass rush up the middle. Brees is a master at stepping up in the pocket to avoid the pass rush from edges, so that puts a huge emphasis on getting pressure down the middle so he can't do that.

On 3rd down and in the red zone they move Colston to the slot and in that situation you REALLY need to jam him hard at the line and have your SS come down a bit to try to take away the inside stuff. They love getting Colston on those shallow routes in the key situations when they use Moore and the other guy (I forget his name) to clear out the outside coverage and force the safeties back.

On defense they have no pass rush at all, they are very aggressive against the run and really swarm so stretch plays and off tackle runs are very difficult to make against them since the entire front flows to the ball - it looks very undisciplined but I didn't see a lot of obvious chances to cut back against it. I think power running, intermediate passes in the middle and deep double move routes are going to be the ticket. Their linebackers are not good in coverage and their safeties lack the speed to make a difference, getting a reciever or TE cutting across the middle 15 to 20 yards deep looks wide open every time. Their outside cornerbacks try to play aggressively with inside leverage, so they can be beat with double moves. None of their CBs are top notch, Greer is okay and is good at using the sideline, but the rest of them are pretty bad - I am looking for Thomas to really take advantage of matching up with Patrick Robinson when he lines up on the left, he has every opportunity to make big plays from that matchup.

Crushaholic · 10-22-2012, 08:52 AM

Coach Manning has two weeks to prepare for the Saints. We got this...

maher_tyler · 10-22-2012, 08:54 AM

They like to throw the ball down field a lot it seems. Hopefully Von Doom can keep getting pressure. Their offense seems to be clicking now. We can't afford any stupid turnovers.

2KBack · 10-22-2012, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Boobs McGee

I partially agree...yes, they've played poorly, but they're STILL ranked 1st in the league in YPG for passing. Sproles worries me, but I think there's a legit concern with their passing attack.

Oh I am concerned with the passing....the passing to Sproles. The Saints have played weak pass defenses all year, and played from behind. I think Champ, Porter and Harris can match up with the WR, we have no one matching against the passes to the RBs.

gunns · 10-22-2012, 08:59 AM

Yep with Brees passing I completely agree. We cannot get behind like we have been because it will be much more than 24-0 at halftime.

fwf · 10-22-2012, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Crushaholic

Coach Manning has two weeks to prepare for the Saints. We got this...

This. Rested, healthy players with 2 weeks to prepare. I'll take the Broncos even at -6.

And it goes without saying that you shouldnt turn the ball over. A bunch of Idiots on here. Thats like saying... we're going to win as long as the bus taking the team there doesnt break down. Or if everyone doesn't get food poisoning the night before.

Smilin Assassin · 10-22-2012, 09:35 AM

Agreed w/most posters here.

Not abnormal to be a little worried about a Drew Brees/Darren Sproles led offense.

I don't think yesterday's game gave me anymore need for concern, though. We knew what they were capable of.

If anything, I'd be more worried if they were coming in 1-4, 1-5, 0-6 and desperate for a win. We have a solid team. I really believe that.

If we play our best, and NO plays their best, I think we should win. It's been a few years since I actually believed that was the case, but John Elway & Peyton Manning have me believing it again.

broncocalijohn · 10-22-2012, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

I have no doubts that we can score on NO....I also have no doubts they can score on us...I just hope we do it more

It will be all about stupid turnovers ie. switching ball to different hand. I will love to see us play the 1st half against a good team like we did waaaaaay back in preseason against the 49ers. It is a home game and would love to see us get the home field advantage back in Denver.

oubronco · 10-22-2012, 10:01 AM

If they come out flat like they have been in the first half then it could be too hard to catch up with Brees and co., so they better play lights out from the beginning

The question is can they?

Mountain Bronco · 10-22-2012, 10:05 AM

Always worried when an offense like the Saints come to Town. They can light up the scoreboard, but Peyton has to be licking his chops waiting for the Saints D to come to Town. They are awful. No turnovers and TD's not FG in the redzone and we should be ok.

DenverBroncosJM · 10-22-2012, 10:08 AM

Aints comin off a bye almost lost to TB..color me unimpressed.

DENVERDUI55 · 10-22-2012, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by fwf

This. Rested, healthy players with 2 weeks to prepare. I'll take the Broncos even at -6.

And it goes without saying that you shouldnt turn the ball over. A bunch of Idiots on here. Thats like saying... we're going to win as long as the bus taking the team there doesnt break down. Or if everyone doesn't get food poisoning the night before.

Why even talk about it then. Just say whoever scores more points will win.

10-22-2012, 07:51 AM	#1
TerrElway Seasoned Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Northern Utah Posts: 483	Anyone else concerned... ...about the Saints game? Their offense has started to roll and they are starting to get coaches and players back. Everyone acts like it's a cake-walk for the Broncos from here on out but for some reason this game scares the hell right out of me. I try to calm myself by telling myself that the Saints last two wins have been against the Chargers and Bucs but the Broncos last two wins have been against Oakland and the Chargers so, with apologies to Woody Paige and his revised prediction of 12 wins, I'm not convinced that suddenly the Orange and Blue are a juggernaut on it's way to the Super Bowl. Please slap me back into full on homer mode oh true believers!

10-22-2012, 08:04 AM	#3
TheElusiveKyleOrton www.dailydickpunch.com @RMoneyBadger Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Steamboat Springs Posts: 9,820 Adopt-a-Bronco: "Debo" Franklin	No, I'm with you. Saints scare the crap out of me. I'm hoping that a loud and rockin' SAF@MH will deliver for us, and that Peyton will take care of business at home, but that's far from a guarantee. __________________ Nobody puts Jay-bee in the corner.

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10-22-2012, 07:53 AM	#2
Smiling Assassin27 STOP! KIPER TIME! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 11,104 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	No, I'm on board with that take. The Saints are a scary bunch and are nowhere near the dumpster fire they were to start the season. Their defense is still pretty bad, however, so if we can get the run game going, we can offset that resurgent passing game.

10-22-2012, 08:07 AM	#4
2KBack Rumblin' Bumblin' Cake is delicious Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 7,283	I have no doubts that we can score on NO....I also have no doubts they can score on us...I just hope we do it more

10-22-2012, 08:08 AM	#5
Boobs McGee I promise to stay alive till the day that I die Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Glendale Posts: 5,042 Adopt-a-Bronco: CassiusVAAAUGHN	Completely agree. This is NOT going to be an easy game. It looks like they're starting to hit their stride a bit, even though BOTH San Diego and the Bucs have some of the worst secondary play in the league (ranked 25th and 31st against the pass). Graham is injured, but their receivers are getting healthier, and that's scary :/ I see our D doing a MUCH better job than their last two opponents, but it's Drew Fricking Brees, and THAT is the part that worries me the most.

10-22-2012, 08:14 AM	#6
DENVERDUI55 Drunk on Arrival! New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,278 Adopt-a-Bronco: Montee Ball	If we avoid turning the ball over then I think we can beat them in a shoot out. If we turn the ball over like we have been it could be ugly.

10-22-2012, 08:20 AM	#8
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 49,110	Only a fool wouldn't be apprehensive about going up against Drew Brees.

10-22-2012, 08:34 AM	#10
hades Dallas biggest Bronco fan Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: They've done studies you know.... 60% of the time, it works every time Posts: 1,812	All we need is for John Lynch to walk the sidelines before the game and look/point at Drew. He'll have flashbacks and go into panic mode, then unleash Von and Doom!

10-22-2012, 08:43 AM	#11
Rabb Zombie Slayer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5,312 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	totally agreed

10-22-2012, 08:46 AM	#12
ElwayMD It Stinks! Meet the New Boss... Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 2,509 Adopt-a-Bronco: Sammy Winder	NO will get their points. If we can keep their Offense out of rhythm we have a great chance of keeping them under 30. If we don't shoot ourselves in the foot like we have in every game but Oakland, we should be able to put 30 on them.

10-22-2012, 08:50 AM	#14
gyldenlove Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London, ON Posts: 10,142 Adopt-a-Bronco: Spencer Larsen	We can beat the Saints if we avoid mistakes. Our defense is quite a bit better than their defense and as long as Jimmy Graham is not playing the offenses are about equal. I watched them play the Chargers and the Bucs, it is quite obvious that the way to try to stop their offense is by jamming at the line and trying to get pass rush up the middle. Brees is a master at stepping up in the pocket to avoid the pass rush from edges, so that puts a huge emphasis on getting pressure down the middle so he can't do that. On 3rd down and in the red zone they move Colston to the slot and in that situation you REALLY need to jam him hard at the line and have your SS come down a bit to try to take away the inside stuff. They love getting Colston on those shallow routes in the key situations when they use Moore and the other guy (I forget his name) to clear out the outside coverage and force the safeties back. On defense they have no pass rush at all, they are very aggressive against the run and really swarm so stretch plays and off tackle runs are very difficult to make against them since the entire front flows to the ball - it looks very undisciplined but I didn't see a lot of obvious chances to cut back against it. I think power running, intermediate passes in the middle and deep double move routes are going to be the ticket. Their linebackers are not good in coverage and their safeties lack the speed to make a difference, getting a reciever or TE cutting across the middle 15 to 20 yards deep looks wide open every time. Their outside cornerbacks try to play aggressively with inside leverage, so they can be beat with double moves. None of their CBs are top notch, Greer is okay and is good at using the sideline, but the rest of them are pretty bad - I am looking for Thomas to really take advantage of matching up with Patrick Robinson when he lines up on the left, he has every opportunity to make big plays from that matchup.

10-22-2012, 08:52 AM	#15
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,078	Coach Manning has two weeks to prepare for the Saints. We got this...

10-22-2012, 08:54 AM	#16
maher_tyler Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 5,695 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	They like to throw the ball down field a lot it seems. Hopefully Von Doom can keep getting pressure. Their offense seems to be clicking now. We can't afford any stupid turnovers.

10-22-2012, 08:59 AM	#18
gunns I WANT DEFENSE! Defense, defense, defense Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Always Hoping Posts: 11,745 Adopt-a-Bronco: Defense	Yep with Brees passing I completely agree. We cannot get behind like we have been because it will be much more than 24-0 at halftime.

10-22-2012, 09:35 AM	#20
Smilin Assassin Tradition Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: East Coast Posts: 1,626	Agreed w/most posters here. Not abnormal to be a little worried about a Drew Brees/Darren Sproles led offense. I don't think yesterday's game gave me anymore need for concern, though. We knew what they were capable of. If anything, I'd be more worried if they were coming in 1-4, 1-5, 0-6 and desperate for a win. We have a solid team. I really believe that. If we play our best, and NO plays their best, I think we should win. It's been a few years since I actually believed that was the case, but John Elway & Peyton Manning have me believing it again.

10-22-2012, 10:01 AM	#22
oubronco John Foneco !! Mile High Magic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sooner Country Posts: 20,686	If they come out flat like they have been in the first half then it could be too hard to catch up with Brees and co., so they better play lights out from the beginning The question is can they?

10-22-2012, 10:05 AM	#23
Mountain Bronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Mountains Posts: 1,447	Always worried when an offense like the Saints come to Town. They can light up the scoreboard, but Peyton has to be licking his chops waiting for the Saints D to come to Town. They are awful. No turnovers and TD's not FG in the redzone and we should be ok.

10-22-2012, 10:08 AM	#24
DenverBroncosJM Post here Vine Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California Posts: 982	Aints comin off a bye almost lost to TB..color me unimpressed.