Every poll shows Obama won debate !

[Jetmeck]

As with the job numbers please tell us righties how it is a conspiracy.

He won. He had the facts. He debated well. Everyhting you could want.

If you are honest and believe Romney won the first debate you have to beleiev he lost the second.

[DBruleU]

Awesome.

New poll from Gallup has Romney up 51% to 45% among LV's.

Who won the debate doesn't matter. Overall, fine, Obama won. On the issues on economy, debt, health care Romney won. According to CNN snap polls.

Care to guess which issues voters will vote on in the voting booth?

Hint - It's not debate #2 performance.

[BroncoInferno]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

Awesome.

New poll from Gallup has Romney up 51% to 45% among LV's.

Who won the debate doesn't matter. Overall, fine, Obama won. On the issues on economy, debt, health care Romney won. According to CNN snap polls.

Care to guess which issues voters will vote on in the voting booth?

Hint - It's not debate #2 performance.

I love it. Last week you claimed Gallup's methodology is crap. Now that it shows your guy ahead, it's the gospel.

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

I love it. Last week you claimed Gallup's methodology is crap. Now that it shows your guy ahead, it's the gospel.

And despite that Romney has increased his lead among LV's.

What was "crap" was how a month out of the election they changed their methodology because the Obama administration kept complaining. I bet they are in full panic mode after this poll and not getting the landslide win they needed last night.

[BroncoInferno]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

And despite that Romney has increased his lead among LV's.

What was "crap" was how a month out of the election they changed their methodology because the Obama administration kept complaining. I bet they are in full panic mode after this poll and not getting the landslide win they needed last night.

So, if Gallup is in the tank for Obama, why not just go back and do some more doctoring to get a result they like? Bottom line is, you're full of ****.

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

So, if Gallup is in the tank for Obama, why not just go back and do some more doctoring to get a result they like? Bottom line is, you're full of ****.

No, I didn't say they were in the tank. I don't believe they are. When Axelrod went and complained to Gallup they changed their weighting.

Bottom line is, you got nothing, per usual, other than to use emoticons to further "strengthen" your argument.

[BroncoInferno]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

No, I didn't say they were in the tank. I don't believe they are. When Axelrod went and complained to Gallup they changed their weighting.

Bottom line is, you got nothing, per usual, other than to use emoticons to further "strengthen" your argument.

As if you offer anything other than claiming things that refute your beliefs are somehow part of some sinister bias...until, that is, they agree with what it is you already believe, then it's the unvarnished truth. It's called confirmation bias. Look it up.

[BroncoInferno]

Now that we know DBruleU considers Gallup a trustworthy source, I'm sure he'll have no spin for this news: http://www.gallup.com/poll/158060/un...d-october.aspx

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

Now that we know DBruleU considers Gallup a trustworthy source, I'm sure he'll have no spin for this news: http://www.gallup.com/poll/158060/un...d-october.aspx

In U.S., Unadjusted Unemployment at 7.3% in Mid-October
Unemployment, underemployment lowest since Gallup began trackingby Jenny MarlarWASHINGTON, D.C. -- U.S. unemployment, as measured by Gallup without seasonal adjustment, is 7.3% in mid-October, down considerably from 7.9% at the end of September and at a new low since Gallup began collecting employment data in January 2010. Gallup's seasonally adjusted unemployment rate is 7.7%, also down from September. October's adjusted mid-month measure is also more than a percentage point lower than October 2011.

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[El Guapo]

I don't know if he won or just that he did better than last go-around. Was it decisive like week one; no.

We need a true moderator for now on. I could not believe the moderator chimed in with a "fact" backing Obama and then turn around and find out she was wrong (not only by chiming in to support a candidate, but with a wrong fact)! We almost need to have a moderator imported from either another democratic nation or bring in a high school kid who doesn't have true opinions yet.

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by El Guapo

I don't know if he won or just that he did better than last go-around. Was it decisive like week one; no.

We need a true moderator for now on. I could not believe the moderator chimed in with a "fact" backing Obama and then turn around and find out she was wrong (not only by chiming in to support a candidate, but with a wrong fact)! We almost need to have a moderator imported from either another democratic nation or bring in a high school kid who doesn't have true opinions yet.

romney doesn't lie, he doesn't get called out. A moderator should call any cannidate out if she knows what he's saying is a lie. also she never backtracked or took back her statement during the debate due to her being correct.

[Rohirrim]

I don't think it much matters. Romney pretty much is just going to stomp on any moderator you put out there. He seems to find listening to others annoying. He certainly ignored this last one.

[Bronco Yoda]

Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

So, if Gallup is in the tank for Obama, why not just go back and do some more doctoring to get a result they like? Bottom line is, you're full of ****.

He's got a point DBruleU. No way you can spin your way out of this. But I really want to see you try...

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

I don't think it much matters. Romney pretty much is just going to stomp on any moderator you put out there. He seems to find listening to others annoying. He certainly ignored this last one.

the romney campaign were trying to score points with this part of the debate & fell flat on their face. conservatives are comming out today saying that the moderator took back her statement even thuogh she didn't.

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by Bronco Yoda

He's got a point DBruleU. No way you can spin your way out of this. But I really want to see you try...

Why would I need to spin anything?

It's funny. There is no doubt they changed their methodology, yet Romney still surging.

We shall see Nov. 6.

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

Why would I need to spin anything?

It's funny. There is no doubt they changed their methodology, yet Romney still surging.

We shall see Nov. 6.

you do realize that the poll was done over the past 7 days. they didn't just throw one together for only today. as a matter of fact it doesn't include last nights debate in this poll.

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by peacepipe

you do realize that the poll was done over the past 7 days. they didn't just throw one together for only today. as a matter of fact it doesn't include last nights debate in this poll.

Gee, really?

You mean Rasmussen uses a 3 day rolling avg and Gallup a 7?

I had no idea.

[mhgaffney]

Originally Posted by Jetmeck

As with the job numbers please tell us righties how it is a conspiracy.

He won. He had the facts. He debated well. Everyhting you could want.

If you are honest and believe Romney won the first debate you have to beleiev he lost the second.

Obama won and it probably won't make any difference. Have you forgotten how Kerry trounced GW Bush -- but lost anyway?

This is the nature of our terminally dysfunctional political system. It's based in mass propaganda and (to a shocking extent) mind control.

If the banksters decide Romney must win -- he will -- regardless of the polls and who won the debates.

[spdirty]

This should get a fun reaction.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/...second-debate/

By scoring big on the economy, gas prices, and Libya, Romney continued his victorious string of debate wins. He looked more presidential than Obama did and showed himself to be an articulate, capable, attractive, compassionate leader with sound ideas.

Obama came over as boorish and Biden-esque. He did not learn from his Vice President's mistakes. When a president gets into a bar room brawl, he loses his dignity and his aura, key assets for an incumbent. Romney was polite but firm. Obama seemed quarrelsome, frustrated, nasty, and cranky.

But the key reason for the Romney win was substantive:

1. Romney made very clear the case against Obama's economic record and Obama's rebuttal about 5 million jobs was pathetic.

2. Romney injected the China issue, big time, and tapped into a strong public sentiment on the issue.

3. Romney made the effective case that Obama is anti-oil, coal, and gas and that this has doubled gas prices.

4. Romney was very effective in differentiating himself from Bush-43 and in establishing that, unlike the GOP of the past, he was for small businesses not big businesses

5. Romney rebutted the attacks on him over Chinese investments.

6. Romney explained his tax plan well and to everyone's satisfaction.

7. Obama erred in trying to make us believe that he always felt Libya was a terror attack. We all heard him blame the movie.

Obama scored points over the 47% statement by Romney, immigration, and by his response to the accusation that he went to Vegas after the murder of the Ambassador.

But this debate goes to Romney. It seals his momentum and will lead to a big win.

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

Obama won and it probably won't make any difference. Have you forgotten how Kerry trounced GW Bush -- but lost anyway?This is the nature of our terminally dysfunctional political system. It's based in mass propaganda and (to a shocking extent) mind control.

If the banksters decide Romney must win -- he will -- regardless of the polls and who won the debates.

that's arguement in favor of Obama. kerry won the 1st debate & still lost. as will happen with romney.

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by spdirty

This should get a fun reaction.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/...second-debate/

By scoring big on the economy, gas prices, and Libya, Romney continued his victorious string of debate wins. He looked more presidential than Obama did and showed himself to be an articulate, capable, attractive, compassionate leader with sound ideas.

Obama came over as boorish and Biden-esque. He did not learn from his Vice President's mistakes. When a president gets into a bar room brawl, he loses his dignity and his aura, key assets for an incumbent. Romney was polite but firm. Obama seemed quarrelsome, frustrated, nasty, and cranky.

But the key reason for the Romney win was substantive:

1. Romney made very clear the case against Obama's economic record and Obama's rebuttal about 5 million jobs was pathetic.

2. Romney injected the China issue, big time, and tapped into a strong public sentiment on the issue.

3. Romney made the effective case that Obama is anti-oil, coal, and gas and that this has doubled gas prices.

4. Romney was very effective in differentiating himself from Bush-43 and in establishing that, unlike the GOP of the past, he was for small businesses not big businesses

5. Romney rebutted the attacks on him over Chinese investments.

6. Romney explained his tax plan well and to everyone's satisfaction.

7. Obama erred in trying to make us believe that he always felt Libya was a terror attack. We all heard him blame the movie.

Obama scored points over the 47% statement by Romney, immigration, and by his response to the accusation that he went to Vegas after the murder of the Ambassador.

But this debate goes to Romney. It seals his momentum and will lead to a big win.

[spdirty]

[The Lone Bolt]

Originally Posted by spdirty

This should get a fun reaction.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/...second-debate/

By scoring big on the economy, gas prices, and Libya, Romney continued his victorious string of debate wins. He looked more presidential than Obama did and showed himself to be an articulate, capable, attractive, compassionate leader with sound ideas.

Obama came over as boorish and Biden-esque. He did not learn from his Vice President's mistakes. When a president gets into a bar room brawl, he loses his dignity and his aura, key assets for an incumbent. Romney was polite but firm. Obama seemed quarrelsome, frustrated, nasty, and cranky.

But the key reason for the Romney win was substantive:

1. Romney made very clear the case against Obama's economic record and Obama's rebuttal about 5 million jobs was pathetic.

2. Romney injected the China issue, big time, and tapped into a strong public sentiment on the issue.

3. Romney made the effective case that Obama is anti-oil, coal, and gas and that this has doubled gas prices.

4. Romney was very effective in differentiating himself from Bush-43 and in establishing that, unlike the GOP of the past, he was for small businesses not big businesses

5. Romney rebutted the attacks on him over Chinese investments.

6. Romney explained his tax plan well and to everyone's satisfaction.

7. Obama erred in trying to make us believe that he always felt Libya was a terror attack. We all heard him blame the movie.

Obama scored points over the 47% statement by Romney, immigration, and by his response to the accusation that he went to Vegas after the murder of the Ambassador.

But this debate goes to Romney. It seals his momentum and will lead to a big win.

Seriously, this is complete and utter fantasy. Especially the part about explaining his tax plan to everone's satifaction. Are you f&*king kidding me?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by The Lone Bolt

Seriously, this is complete and utter fantasy.

Can you think of anything the righties believe that isn't?

Their entire house is built on a foundation of discredited economic and political theories.

[Mecklomaniac]

Jimmy Kimmel asks "Who won the debate", 4 hours before the debate.