Our Christian President Wears Muslim Wedding Band

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by Jetmeck

Are you kidding me.

You really need to be banned on stupidity alone.

Thankfully there is no English comprehension test required for posting here, or you'd be one of the first out of the door.

[mhgaffney]

This is a Swiftboat attack on Obama.

It appeals to latent racism and bigotry -- very sleazy.

[Jetmeck]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

Thankfully there is no English comprehension test required for posting here, or you'd be one of the first out of the door.

sERIOUSLY YOU STUPID *****.

yOUR defending him calling the prez a muslim with your he is palling around with reds and pinkos ?

You need shock therapy...........

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

This is no secret, and secondly, liberals should keep it in mind the next time they wish to claim Fox is "racist" against Muslims.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

Obama's political associations growing up were pinkos and Reds. He himself was affiliated with the Democratic Socialists of America in his early political years and joined a church teaching "liberation theology" which has Marxist overlapping, so any Christian worth his salt wouldn't consider him a true Christian anyway. The idea that Jesus "favored the poor" is completely unbiblical. The Catholic Church excommunicated such priests, several of which of whom were associated with Marxist guerrilla movements such as the Sandinistas.

Speaking of that, I'd like to see Obama explain his older videos in which he spoke of taking from the suburbs and giving to the ghettos considering he now claims he's for the middle class. Shaking them down in favor of ghetto dwellers isn't exactly "for" anyone but ghetto dwellers. Marxist economics states taking from the haves and giving to the have nots will raise the have nots, where as in capitalism it states that expanding economic opportunity will help the have nots raise themselves.

You've suffered a salt overload from swallowing all that spunk from the birthers/Beck/D'Souza/Limbaugh/et.al.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by Jetmeck

sERIOUSLY YOU STUPID *****.

yOUR defending him calling the prez a muslim with your he is palling around with reds and pinkos ?

You need shock therapy...........

Yew nees shock therrrpy..........your nuts... Derp derp.

I don't see anything convincing from the pictures of the ring, offhand they look of some traditional African design I would guess. If the ring is made of gold, it is not Muslim by definition as Muslim men aren't allowed to wear gold jewelry.

And yes, he did grow up surrounded by Communists (his own parents and Frank Marshall Davis for starters). This is only new news to those who only get their news from the mainstream news. I think the most interesting thing of it was in at least one instance, Obama participated in a campus DSA (Democratic Socialists of America) townhall which was also co-sponsored by campus Democrats. Since the two are openly in bed with each other, why make a stink about Obama's Socialist associations? The Democratic party has been infiltrated by pinkos and Reds since at least the FDR administration. It's not exactly a secret. Obama was an open member of the New Party whose Statement of Principles is very similar to mainline Socialist parties such as the Socialist International of which the DSA belongs.

Why get angry if people call the Democratic Party "Socialists" if their campus orgs are openly working with Socialists? We even see it on this forum; the terms "progressive" and "Socialist" heavily overlap. On the social and cultural level, especially, the Democratic Party has heavily been taken over by Socialist revolutionaries. Many Democrats here are for the exact same social aims that every Socialist party out there wants. The only real difference at this point is that one contingent is pro-capitalist and the other is anti-capitalist. On much else you guys are joined at the hip.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by W*GS

You've suffered a salt overload from swallowing all that spunk from the birthers/Beck/D'Souza/Limbaugh/et.al.

No, I used to be a leftist and in reading materials by and about left-wing revolutionaries such as the Sandinistas, I came across the Latin American liberation theology movement and became familiar with it through that route. Blase Bonpane was the first priest/liberation theologian I came across.

Nice try, though. Too bad in the real world things aren't as simple as blaming Beck and Fox. Life's a b****.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

No, I used to be a leftist

You're about the Nth (N is large) right-wing proto-fascist who claims "used to be a leftist" that I've run across.

You're not a Republican, either.

And you didn't vote for Bush. Twice.

And 2001-2009 never happened.

[W*GS]

Leave the red-baiting back in the 1950s, 'nyuk nyuk'.

That kinda **** only works with the mental midgets who comprise the vast bulk of your party. The rest of us see it for the desperation and idiocy it is.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by W*GS

You're about the Nth (N is large) right-wing proto-fascist who claims "used to be a leftist" that I've run across.

You're not a Republican, either.

And you didn't vote for Bush. Twice.

And 2001-2009 never happened.

... I've never been a fascist let alone a "proto-fascist." I was, however, a former Marxist-Leninist (generally speaking) and was strongly in favor of revolutionary Marxism. Nice to know many former leftists turned conservatives, this is very heartening for me. Thanks for the info.

I am a Republican, and I voted for Bush once, as in 2000 I was a lefty and voted Nader.

What I find most amusing about holier-than-thou liberals is their engaging in the kind of behavior you display even while decrying others for it, which is namely prejudicial labeling of others scarcely before they open their mouths to dialogue with others what they think. You already have the labels and categories ready, and unfortunately, they're totally screwed up.

Of course we know it's only wrong if one of those bitter clingers does it.

Ah, enlightenment!

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by W*GS

Leave the red-baiting back in the 1950s, 'nyuk nyuk'.

That kinda **** only works with the mental midgets who comprise the vast bulk of your party. The rest of us see it for the desperation and idiocy it is.

There is no red baiting going on, and that you can only respond to my post here by making such false claims in part proves the validity of my post, otherwise you'd have been able to debunk it by now.

It's in plain black and white: The Democrats are in bed with Socialists, are in bed quite openly with them, and Barack Obama has participated in this.

Next?

[Irish Stout]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

Yew nees shock therrrpy..........your nuts... Derp derp.

I don't see anything convincing from the pictures of the ring, offhand they look of some traditional African design I would guess. If the ring is made of gold, it is not Muslim by definition as Muslim men aren't allowed to wear gold jewelry.

And yes, he did grow up surrounded by Communists (his own parents and Frank Marshall Davis for starters). This is only new news to those who only get their news from the mainstream news. I think the most interesting thing of it was in at least one instance, Obama participated in a campus DSA (Democratic Socialists of America) townhall which was also co-sponsored by campus Democrats. Since the two are openly in bed with each other, why make a stink about Obama's Socialist associations? The Democratic party has been infiltrated by pinkos and Reds since at least the FDR administration. It's not exactly a secret. Obama was an open member of the New Party whose Statement of Principles is very similar to mainline Socialist parties such as the Socialist International of which the DSA belongs.

Why get angry if people call the Democratic Party "Socialists" if their campus orgs are openly working with Socialists? We even see it on this forum; the terms "progressive" and "Socialist" heavily overlap. On the social and cultural level, especially, the Democratic Party has heavily been taken over by Socialist revolutionaries. Many Democrats here are for the exact same social aims that every Socialist party out there wants. The only real difference at this point is that one contingent is pro-capitalist and the other is anti-capitalist. On much else you guys are joined at the hip.

There is a difference between socialist and marxist and communist - as you yourself seem to recognize in this post. Red and Pinko go towards the last of the three. Theres no arguing that we're almost all a little bit socialist in this country and the democratic party has aims towards more social programs than the republican party...

As far as Obama surrounded by Communists? Really? Maybe you can argue that with his dad, who he didn't see after he was 5 years old. His mom Just because she was an anthropologist working in Indonesia doesn't make her a Red.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

... I've never been a fascist let alone a "proto-fascist." I was, however, a former Marxist-Leninist (generally speaking) and was strongly in favor of revolutionary Marxism. Nice to know many former leftists turned conservatives, this is very heartening for me. Thanks for the info.

You don't get it. You proto-fascists claim to have been lefties - the further left the better - when in fact you've always been proto-fascists, even when you were little larvae.

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

I am a Republican, and I voted for Bush once, as in 2000 I was a lefty and voted Nader.

Ya shore ya betcha. You've been a straight GOP voter since you've been able to vote.

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

What I find most amusing about holier-than-thou liberals is their engaging in the kind of behavior you display even while decrying others for it, which is namely prejudicial labeling of others scarcely before they open their mouths to dialogue with others what they think. You already have the labels and categories ready, and unfortunately, they're totally screwed up.

I've read enough of your screed to see you're full of ****.

[Irish Stout]

Originally Posted by W*GS

Leave the red-baiting back in the 1950s, 'nyuk nyuk'.

That kinda **** only works with the mental midgets who comprise the vast bulk of your party. The rest of us see it for the desperation and idiocy it is.

At least nyuk nyuk's attacks are a lot closer to legitimate than lonestar's blatantly racist drivel. Even if its seems to be a call for bringing back the red scare.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

There is no red baiting going on, and that you can only respond to my post here by making such false claims in part proves the validity of my post, otherwise you'd have been able to debunk it by now.

Oh please - Obama's Dad had as much influence on his life as Curly had on yours.

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

It's in plain black and white: The Democrats are in bed with Socialists, are in bed quite openly with them, and Barack Obama has participated in this.

Only to ignorant American right-wingers is "socialist" a dirty word.

You "conservatives" hugely favor socialism - for corporations and the wealthy.

Ponder that a bit before you open your yap again.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by Irish Stout

There is a difference between socialist and marxist and communist - as you yourself seem to recognize in this post. Red and Pinko go towards the last of the three. Theres no arguing that we're almost all a little bit socialist in this country and the democratic party has aims towards more social programs than the republican party...

As far as Obama surrounded by Communists? Really? Maybe you can argue that with his dad, who he didn't see after he was 5 years old. His mom Just because she was an anthropologist working in Indonesia doesn't make her a Red.

Socialist parties are similar to Communist/Marxist ones in that they are all in favor of doing away with capitalism, so ultimately, the differences are more minor and usually are in relation to the methods preferred in obtaining the Socialist state. Socialism by definition means public ownership of the means of production which is the type of property confiscation that we saw in Cuba and the USSR. That's what it is.

Since I didn't say anything about Obama's being a Red based on her working in Indonesia, your statement makes no sense. She had Marxist associations at least from college onward, including Frank Marshall Davis. Suffice it to say, if someone had hung out with Nazis from college onward, they'd be considered at the least a Nazi sympathizer, as it goes along with the territory. Democrats, of course, wish to pretend this isn't the case and get very defensive. Again, there is also the matter of the Campus Democrats so-sponsoring a DSA event which Obama attended. This doesn't take a genius to put together. I don't think the Nazi analogy need be mentioned again.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by W*GS

Only to ignorant American right-wingers is "socialist" a dirty word.

You "conservatives" hugely favor socialism - for corporations and the wealthy.

Ponder that a bit before you open your yap again.

Government subsidies are not socialism, that is a worthless canard.

Dictionary much?

so·cial·ism
noun /ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/ 
A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole

Policy or practice based on this theory

(in Marxist theory) A transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism


The most popular advocate of Socialism was named Karl Marx. I think it speaks for itself.

Historically illiterate much?

[Irish Stout]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

Socialist parties are similar to Communist/Marxist ones in that they are all in favor of doing away with capitalism, so ultimately, the differences are more minor and usually are in relation to the methods preferred in obtaining the Socialist state. Socialism by definition means public ownership of the means of production which is the type of property confiscation that we saw in Cuba and the USSR. That's what it is.

Since I didn't say anything about Obama's being a Red based on her working in Indonesia, your statement makes no sense. She had Marxist associations at least from college onward, including Frank Marshall Davis. Suffice it to say, if someone had hung out with Nazis from college onward, they'd be considered at the least a Nazi sympathizer, as it goes along with the territory. Democrats, of course, wish to pretend this isn't the case and get very defensive. Again, there is also the matter of the Campus Democrats so-sponsoring a DSA event which Obama attended. This doesn't take a genius to put together. I don't think the Nazi analogy need be mentioned again.

I'm still not sure I understand what your argument is... and a communist and a socialist are different. Most people today in first world countries are social-capitalists, which appears to be exactly what the President and the Republican candidate are... based on actual actions they've both taken in life.

Communist means the state owns everything. Strict Socialists advocate for the actual people owning everything. Thats a significant difference. Most aren't strict socialists and that term now means more of an equal opportunity for all throughout society. Except for the real fringes, even in the DSA, there has never been an argument that the state should own all means of production and goods.

Regardless - I do appreciate this type of attack as having a more legitimate and factual ground. Cheers!

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

Government subsidies are not socialism, that is a worthless canard.

You guys are all about taxpayer support of corporate interests and the wealthy, and a big fat middle finger to everyone else.

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole

Name me one nation that has absolutely *no* regulation of economic activity.

You need to go beyond a dictionary. If you're mentally able.

[DAN_BRONCO_FAN]

Originally Posted by Bacchus

So Obama is a muslim, Milions of Americans are muslims.

and and you is a a a a TEBOW HATIN NAZI !!!!!!
and a godless commie
let see you come back from this you dirty comie muslim tourist* lover
* with apologies to Gilda Radner for sorta stealing one of her jokes

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

This is a Swiftboat attack on Obama.

It appeals to latent racism and bigotry -- very sleazy.

You mean like how the Obama campaign kept calling people who disagreed with him racists?

Of course in the liberal mind, racism and bigotry are a one-way street and the labels only fit their opponents to the right of center. What a nice dream world you live in, must be really warm there, the way you all linger.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by W*GS

You guys are all about taxpayer support of corporate interests and the wealthy, and a big fat middle finger to everyone else.

I don't think throwing liberal myths at me is a particularly effective weapon, although you clearly do.

Since I grew up poor, am now middle class, and have never been rich, I obviously do not fit your prefabricated label, do I?

Name me one nation that has absolutely *no* regulation of economic activity.

You need to go beyond a dictionary. If you're mentally able.

Regulation of economic activity and Socialism are two different things, what are you referring to?

Apparently using the dictionary is a weakness in your eyes. Interesting.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

You mean like how the Obama campaign kept calling people who disagreed with him racists?

Riiiiiiight - because there are no actual racists among those people...

[Jetmeck]

Originally Posted by W*GS

Leave the red-baiting back in the 1950s, 'nyuk nyuk'.

That kinda **** only works with the mental midgets who comprise the vast bulk of your party. The rest of us see it for the desperation and idiocy it is.

She is an ignorant twit who is obviously pro life and wishes to impose her religious beliefs on all others even resorting to lying and defamation of the prez and throwing out communist, socialist and muslim slurs.

She needs to go reread that bible...................

[Jetmeck]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

You mean like how the Obama campaign kept calling people who disagreed with him racists?

Of course in the liberal mind, racism and bigotry are a one-way street and the labels only fit their opponents to the right of center. What a nice dream world you live in, must be really warm there, the way you all linger.

Slow that crazy stuff down.

Which side has the black guy ?

Last I looked Romney was the rich, white guy and your saying we are racist against a rich, white guy ?

Red, yellow, white or black matters not to me. Romney's BS fantasyland policies favor the rich, its that simple.