Americans are really forgetting their heritage

[Jetmeck]

Unions made the middle class strong and the youngins have forgot who got them their work rules and vacations and holidays and fair and safe working conditions.

Unions were supported by democrats.

Democrats got you Medicare and Social Security and have protected it ever since. Republicans have have NEVER EVER WANTED any of these programs and it has CAME TO THE SURFACE WITH ROMNEY AND RYAN like never before. You would have to be blind not to see their disdain for those programs.

Democrats are the only thing standing in the republicans way of getting rid of programs the poor and middle class have depended on for decades.


Republicans never wanted these programs and its in your face right now for all to see.

Do you have eyes and ears ?

Do you have parents ?

Republicans will use their pissing away of money in two stupid wars and tax cuts for the rich as an excuse to get rid of programs they haven't wanted since the beginning and at the same time giving another huge tax cut for the rich.

No level playing field. Take from the poor and the middle and our parents to give to the rich for something that hasn't worked the past decade we have these stupid tax breaks for the rich.


Americans are forgetting their heritage and thier history, esp recent history..............WAKE THE FREK UP !

[nyuk nyuk]

Thank you, Howard Zinn.

[Jetmeck]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

Thank you, Howard Zinn.

aNYHTING ELSE I CAN DO TO **** WITH YOUR LYING ASS ?

yOU AND rOMNEY= EVERYHTING I TEACH MY KIDS NOT TO BE..

[barryr]

Obamacare will cut funding to Medicare, but I know that ruins the liberal narrative.

[Jetmeck]

Originally Posted by barryr

Obamacare will cut funding to Medicare, but I know that ruins the liberal narrative.

Answer one question with another lie................

The cuts come from providers not the end user.

[barryr]

Originally Posted by Jetmeck

Answer one question with another lie................

The cuts come from providers not the end user.

BS. There is already insurance companies dropping people and more expected. Not to mention the shortage of doctors, which will get worse as well. So cuts are cuts regardless of your silly technicalities.

[Irish Stout]

Originally Posted by barryr

Obamacare will cut funding to Medicare, but I know that ruins the liberal narrative.

It also ruins politifact and factcheck.org's stance.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by Jetmeck

Unions made the middle class strong and the youngins have forgot who got them their work rules and vacations and holidays and fair and safe working conditions.

Unions were supported by democrats.

Democrats got you Medicare and Social Security and have protected it ever since. Republicans have have NEVER EVER WANTED any of these programs and it has CAME TO THE SURFACE WITH ROMNEY AND RYAN like never before. You would have to be blind not to see their disdain for those programs.

Democrats are the only thing standing in the republicans way of getting rid of programs the poor and middle class have depended on for decades.


Republicans never wanted these programs and its in your face right now for all to see.

Do you have eyes and ears ?

Do you have parents ?

Republicans will use their pissing away of money in two stupid wars and tax cuts for the rich as an excuse to get rid of programs they haven't wanted since the beginning and at the same time giving another huge tax cut for the rich.

No level playing field. Take from the poor and the middle and our parents to give to the rich for something that hasn't worked the past decade we have these stupid tax breaks for the rich.


Americans are forgetting their heritage and thier history, esp recent history..............WAKE THE FREK UP !

Medicare and SS account along with other Human Health Services account for what's creating the most debt in this country and straining our systems. I wouldn't hang my hat on those.

Democrats also created and expanded Jim Crow and other racist platforms, but I don't see you trying to take credit for that.

and btw...the reforms that allowed Unions and other employment practices were championed by Republicans. Many people, but if you're looking for one person to give credit to, then Teddy Roosevelt, a Republican is your man. Of course that was over 100 years ago. All Unions do now is increase the cost of ownership, do not affect the wide changes you're refering to(because again, that was almost 100 years ago), and generally whine and complain for having to perform work.

Toodles,

[Blart]

Originally Posted by barryr

Obamacare will cut funding to Medicare, but I know that ruins the liberal narrative.

[Garcia Bronco]

Romney's plan is not to cut funding to medicare, but to manage it differently. Benefits are going to be cut and I don't care who you vote for. So if that's your angle, pick something you can actual sell. The problem with medicare is the it hasn't been managed in a long time and it's organized based on data that no longer applies. People are living longer and need it longer. People get it that can easily afford other means. MEdicare is a problem consuming a large portion of our budget. We can do better.

[Jetmeck]

Originally Posted by barryr

BS. There is already insurance companies dropping people and more expected. Not to mention the shortage of doctors, which will get worse as well. So cuts are cuts regardless of your silly technicalities.

Full of chit as usual..................no shortage of doctors or insurance companies dropping ( against the law.....OBAMACARE...FOOL) PEOPLE.

yOU HAVE NO PROOF OF THIS, JUST righty hypothesis

[Jetmeck]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Medicare and SS account along with other Human Health Services account for what's creating the most debt in this country and straining our systems. I wouldn't hang my hat on those.

Democrats also created and expanded Jim Crow and other racist platforms, but I don't see you trying to take credit for that.

and btw...the reforms that allowed Unions and other employment practices were championed by Republicans. Many people, but if you're looking for one person to give credit to, then Teddy Roosevelt, a Republican is your man. Of course that was over 100 years ago. All Unions do now is increase the cost of ownership, do not affect the wide changes you're refering to(because again, that was almost 100 years ago), and generally whine and complain for having to perform work.

Toodles,

Who you gonna believe the democrats on the working people's side or this ass clown.

I HAVE SEEN BOTH SIDES OF UNIONS AND NON UNION JOBS and there is stark difference.........until you know something just can the lies.

[Kaylore]

Yeah. Non-union jobs are run like nazis. BTW Nazi's were the national socialist party. They had the government take control of everything. Unions are full of union stooges and liberals want to make all people gay welfare dependent and give them aids so they can go on medicare, not work and collect disability and steal money from the rich.




Yeah, this game is stupid.

[Jetmeck]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Romney's plan is not to cut funding to medicare, but to manage it differently. Benefits are going to be cut and I don't care who you vote for. So if that's your angle, pick something you can actual sell. The problem with medicare is the it hasn't been managed in a long time and it's organized based on data that no longer applies. People are living longer and need it longer. People get it that can easily afford other means. MEdicare is a problem consuming a large portion of our budget. We can do better.

yOUR NOT GOING TO GUT mEDICARE AND sOCIAL SECURITY because your party broke the bank with stupid wars and tax breaks for the rich which I know you also like.

Your party has never liked nor supported these policies that poor and middle class depend on and YOUR NOT USING A FINANCIAL CRISIS
that your party created as an excuse to get rid of them. Not gonna happen.

So your saying we should double down on tax cuts for the rich on one hand and on the other gut medicare and ss for the poor and middle class ?

IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ? IF SO I got a word for people like that !

[barryr]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Romney's plan is not to cut funding to medicare, but to manage it differently. Benefits are going to be cut and I don't care who you vote for. So if that's your angle, pick something you can actual sell. The problem with medicare is the it hasn't been managed in a long time and it's organized based on data that no longer applies. People are living longer and need it longer. People get it that can easily afford other means. MEdicare is a problem consuming a large portion of our budget. We can do better.

That's news to Obama supporters where Obama's numbers don't add up anymore than Romney's.

[Jetmeck]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

Yeah. Non-union jobs are run like nazis. BTW Nazi's were the national socialist party. They had the government take control of everything. Unions are full of union stooges and liberals want to make all people gay welfare dependent and give them aids so they can go on medicare, not work and collect disability and steal money from the rich.




Yeah, this game is stupid.

Non union you can be fired for dumping the boss's daughter.

Union you get due process.

Figure it out......../.

[barryr]

Originally Posted by Jetmeck

Non union you can be fired for dumping the boss's daughter.

Union you get due process.

Figure it out......../.

Union also makes it impossible to get rid of the poor worker while someone better never gets a chance. Figure it out.

[Jetmeck]

Originally Posted by barryr

Union also makes it impossible to get rid of the poor worker while someone better never gets a chance. Figure it out.

You couldn;t find your ass ..............due process depending on the contract.................steps are gone through and yes you can be fired.

Another barryr lie................

Kansas and Oklahoma have right to work and guess what they also have a higher poverty level than Missouri which doesn't have right to work and guess what Missouri has a higher average income.

Figure that out

[Jetmeck]

Originally Posted by barryr

Union also makes it impossible to get rid of the poor worker while someone better never gets a chance. Figure it out.

Another lie...your lack of understanding and reality can only be matched by Ms. Numb Nuts

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by Jetmeck

Non union you can be fired for dumping the boss's daughter.

Union you get due process.

Figure it out......../.

This always happens. Great argument.

[lonestar]

IIRC the republicans forced through the civil rights bill in the 60's, over the objections of the southern dumocrats..

By party

The original House version:[16]

    Democratic Party: 152–96   (61–39%)
    Republican Party: 138–34   (80–20%)

Cloture in the Senate:[17]

    Democratic Party: 44–23   (66–34%)
    Republican Party: 27–6   (82–18%)

The Senate version:[16]

    Democratic Party: 46–21   (69–31%)
    Republican Party: 27–6   (82–18%)

The Senate version, voted on by the House:[16]

    Democratic Party: 153–91   (63–37%)
    Republican Party: 136–35   (80–20%)

[barryr]

Obama thinks we all should redistribute our wealth and make it "fair" for others, yet Obama won't lift a finger to help his own family in Africa who are living in poverty when he has the opportunity and wealth to do so. Interesting.

[Rohirrim]

Obama is the boogeyman.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by Jetmeck

Who you gonna believe the democrats on the working people's side or this ass clown.

I HAVE SEEN BOTH SIDES OF UNIONS AND NON UNION JOBS and there is stark difference.........until you know something just can the lies.

You really need to pick-up a history book. I understand that your poor study habits and inability to properly-prior-plan as a youngster led you to a poor education. You didn't take advantage of your opportunities. It's never too late, Meckjack.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by Jetmeck

yOUR NOT GOING TO GUT mEDICARE AND sOCIAL SECURITY because your party broke the bank with stupid wars and tax breaks for the rich which I know you also like.

Your party has never liked nor supported these policies that poor and middle class depend on and YOUR NOT USING A FINANCIAL CRISIS
that your party created as an excuse to get rid of them. Not gonna happen.

So your saying we should double down on tax cuts for the rich on one hand and on the other gut medicare and ss for the poor and middle class ?

IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ? IF SO I got a word for people like that !

These are all lies.

No one will gut or can cut social security or medicare. Get a grip. They do need to be reorganized because the current model for both is doomed. We have to re-evaluate how we run them. They're founded on data that is no longer valid.

Tax cuts for the rich? That's not possible. Tax cuts for business? That's possible. That will give business owners the ability to make better business assumptions and actually grow their businesses so MORE people pay into the tax pool. More people paying into the tax pool means more revenue. Do the math. But only after you've studied your history.