The Obama Spending Lie

[Rohirrim]

Here's what it says on Romney's website: "Since President Obama assumed office three years ago, federal spending has accelerated at a pace without precedent in recent history."

Once again, Romney is lying. The truth?


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/oba...2?pagenumber=1

I still can't believe Romney's capacity to lie. How can anybody back this guy?

[Rohirrim]

After adjusting for inflation, spending under Obama is falling at a 1.4% annual pace — the first decline in real spending since the early 1970s, when Richard Nixon was retreating from the quagmire in Vietnam.

In per capita terms, real spending will drop by nearly 5% from $11,450 per person in 2009 to $10,900 in 2013 (measured in 2009 dollars). (Ibid.)

I guarantee you one thing, if Romney gets elected, spending will go up.

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Here's what it says on Romney's website: "Since President Obama assumed office three years ago, federal spending has accelerated at a pace without precedent in recent history."

Once again, Romney is lying. The truth?


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/oba...2?pagenumber=1

I still can't believe Romney's capacity to lie. How can anybody back this guy?

This was discussed months ago when Nutting first put out this ridiculous claim. All you need to know is -

*2009 stimulus assigned to Bush. $825Billion Stimulus.

Uh, no. Obama signed that into law. It is NOT re-assigned to Bush.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

This was discussed months ago when Nutting first put out this ridiculous claim. All you need to know is -

*2009 stimulus assigned to Bush. $825Billion Stimulus.

Uh, no. Obama signed that into law. It is NOT re-assigned to Bush.

There can be disagreements about what to assign to whom, but Romney's statement is still bull****.

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

There can be disagreements about what to assign to whom, but Romney's statement is still bull****.

Until Obama took office, the US had never spent more than 23.5% of its GDP with the exception of course during WWII.

Spending under Obama?

• 25.2% of GDP in 2009
• 24.1% of GDP in 2010
• 24.1% of GDP in 2011
• 24.3% (estimates by the White House ) in 2012

If Obama wins reelection, spending according to his budget would never be less than 22.3% of GDP. Under that forecast the AVG spending would be 23.6% of GDP for his 8 years in office.

[baja]

I support whom ever is going to give me the most free stuff.

[Fedaykin]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

Until Obama took office, the US had never spent more than 23.5% of its GDP with the exception of course during WWII.

Spending under Obama?

• 25.2% of GDP in 2009
• 24.1% of GDP in 2010
• 24.1% of GDP in 2011
• 24.3% (estimates by the White House ) in 2012

If Obama wins reelection, spending according to his budget would never be less than 22.3% of GDP. Under that forecast the AVG spending would be 23.6% of GDP for his 8 years in office.

:facepalm:

See: Drop in GDP. See Also: Recession

[Jetmeck]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

This was discussed months ago when Nutting first put out this ridiculous claim. All you need to know is -

*2009 stimulus assigned to Bush. $825Billion Stimulus.

Uh, no. Obama signed that into law. It is NOT re-assigned to Bush.

Do you blame others for fixing your mistakes ?

Guess so with this clueless response.

Every bit of spending associated with fixing a recession that Bush created belongs on his plate.

Pull your ignorant lying head out of your ass.

Romney lying twin unable to grasp reality.

[pricejj]

Originally Posted by Fedaykin

:facepalm:

See: Drop in GDP. See Also: Recession

Are you claiming that we are still in a recession? Is that why Obama keeps spending 24% of GDP?

[pricejj]

...and if so, what in the world has Obama done to deserve re-election?

If not, then continuing to spend 24% of GDP is preposterous, and still the man does not deserve re-election.

[Jetmeck]

Originally Posted by pricejj

Are you claiming that we are still in a recession? Is that why Obama keeps spending 24% of GDP?

You truly set the bar low.

Everyone knows we are still recovering from the recession and I don't believe your 24% nonsense.

How convenient of you to forget spending on two wars and a recession your party created....

Put all that on OBAMA's plate..............bet your good at blaming others for your problems because you aren't man enough to tell the truth.

[Rohirrim]

As I've documented before, the CBO reported in January, 2009 that the federal budget deficit for that fiscal year, which began on October 1, 2008, was already $1.2 trillion. President Obama's additional '09 spending added another $200 billion to the deficit, bringing the total to $1.412 trillion. Unprecedented and huge, but given the enormity of the financial crisis and the depth of the recession, there weren't many other options on the table. Add two wars into the mix and there you go.

But since then, deficit spending has dropped precipitously. Why? Chiefly because President Obama signed the Statutory Pay-As-You-Go Act in February, 2010, which mandates that new spending be offset with spending cuts or new revenue. Yes, a Democratic president and a Democratic Congress passed this legislation. Guess how many congressional Republicans voted for the law. Zero. Not one. Perhaps during this week's debate, Vice President Biden could ask Rep. Paul Ryan who voted against the bill.

Consequently, the president is responsible for the lowest government spending growth in 60 years, according to the Wall Street Journal's Market Watch.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-ce...b_1955561.html

[TonyR]

Great post from Sullivan on Romney's latest lies/flip-flops:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....a-flopper.html

...And this will be the pattern, one suspects: Romney will be a Massachusetts moderate in all the debates, while his campaign will then tell the GOP and the country that it's all an act to get that 51 percent. Then he'll do ... well, no one has any idea what he'd actually do. If he can reverse his entire primary position in one debate, imagine how creative he could be in office. And at some point, that has to rattle the far right, no? Or do they just not really care as long as they win? After the way they behaved under Bush as he betrayed every conservative principle in sight, I think they only want to win.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by TonyR

Great post from Sullivan on Romney's latest lies/flip-flops:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....a-flopper.html

This is what I've been saying all along. Romney is the stealth candidate. The Secret Santa. Nobody knows what he'll do. At this point he could tell them anything and they'd just sit there and nod in agreement. He could tell them he supports marriage among flag burning gay abortionists and they'd vote for him. All they know is that he's not Obama, the black communist Kenyan Muslim spendthrift tax raising boogeyman.

[TonyR]

What does Mitt Romney believe? What would his agenda look like as president? Is there anything he wouldn’t be willing to say or sign if it proved politically useful? These aren’t gotcha questions. These are the bare minimum specifics that voters need in order to cast an informed vote. Like everyone, I would rather not be governed by a president whose convictions are contrary to my own. But I’m terrified of being governed by a president who doesn’t have any moral convictions at all.

http://www.tnr.com/blog/plank/108397...-abortion-lies

[DenverBrit]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

Until Obama took office, the US had never spent more than 23.5% of its GDP with the exception of course during WWII.

Spending under Obama?

• 25.2% of GDP in 2009
• 24.1% of GDP in 2010
• 24.1% of GDP in 2011
• 24.3% (estimates by the White House ) in 2012

If Obama wins reelection, spending according to his budget would never be less than 22.3% of GDP. Under that forecast the AVG spending would be 23.6% of GDP for his 8 years in office.

How much of that spending was locked in from the disastrous Bush years?

Or do we just ignore the administration that created the mess we must now crawl out of? And crawl it will be until Europe and Asia also turn their economies around.

Are exports to non-existent markets also the responsibility of the POTUS?

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by DenverBrit

How much of that spending was locked in from the disastrous Bush years?

Or do we just ignore the administration that created the mess we must now crawl out of? And crawl it will be until Europe and Asia also turn their economies around.

Are exports to non-existent markets also the responsibility of the POTUS?

Everything that happens on Earth is the responsibility of the POTUS.

That is, until they get a Republican back in there.

Then, all responsibility ceases.

[Meck77]

You people are a bunch of idiots fighting one another defending or attacking romney, obama, bush etc.
They serve the same global interests/banks/elite. Why in the hell do you think they all united so hard against Ron Paul?

Wake up you ****ing sheep.

Keep on blaming someone else for the debt. The reality is it's YOUR debt no matter who spent it. It will be your tax burden, your children's tax burden and your grandchildren's tax burden.

[The Lone Bolt]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

After adjusting for inflation, spending under Obama is falling at a 1.4% annual pace — the first decline in real spending since the early 1970s, when Richard Nixon was retreating from the quagmire in Vietnam.

In per capita terms, real spending will drop by nearly 5% from $11,450 per person in 2009 to $10,900 in 2013 (measured in 2009 dollars). (Ibid.)

I guarantee you one thing, if Romney gets elected, spending will go up.

Of course not! Slick Willard has a secret stash of budget pixie dust! It allows him to spend another $7 trillion dollars and still magically balance the budget!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by Meck77

Keep on blaming someone else for the debt. The reality is it's YOUR debt no matter who spent it. It will be your tax burden, your children's tax burden and your grandchildren's tax burden.

Meck77: Caring about the debt since 2009.

[Meck77]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Meck77: Caring about the debt since 2009.

You are a ****ing idiot. Same old tired BS. Arguing against what. Like I said. The sheep are fighting while the globalists are doing what they have to do and Obama/Romney will do their work for them.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by Meck77

You are a ****ing idiot. Same old tired BS. Arguing against what. Like I said. The sheep are fighting while the globalists are doing what they have to do and Obama/Romney will do their work for them.

But jackass: You weren't saying any of these things during the Bush junta.

All you did during those years was attack anyone who criticized Daddy's Little War Criminal.

[maher_tyler]

Originally Posted by Meck77

You people are a bunch of idiots fighting one another defending or attacking romney, obama, bush etc.
They serve the same global interests/banks/elite. Why in the hell do you think they all united so hard against Ron Paul?

Wake up you ****ing sheep.

Keep on blaming someone else for the debt. The reality is it's YOUR debt no matter who spent it. It will be your tax burden, your children's tax burden and your grandchildren's tax burden.

I'm penciling in Ron Paul on my ballot. GOP is banking on the ignorance of some American people! Sad to see some on this board and around the country think Romney is the right choice. I don't think Obama is either but he is still a better choice.

[Meck77]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

But jackass: You weren't saying any of these things during the Bush junta.

All you did during those years was attack anyone who criticized Daddy's Little War Criminal.

BS...Get a life liar. Your arguments are foolish. In fact all of this right vs left is. That is my point.

Ron Paul has it right. Robama has you all fooled.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Meck77

BS...Get a life liar. Your arguments are foolish. In fact all of this right vs left is. That is my point.

Ron Paul has it right. Robama has you all fooled.

Oh boy! The unicorn solution.