Andrew Sulluvan's latest column: Did Obama Just Throw The Entire Election Away?

[Kid A]

Originally Posted by Requiem

It's 75-25 right now.

71.4 - 28.6 now. Basically pre-convention.

[pricejj]

All of the left-leaning polls have presented skewed data in hopes of influencing the election. Of course, they pander to the "herd" mentality, which says is most people are voting this way, then I will vote this way too. It's an utterly despicable practice.

What you are seeing now is a shift to the real world, in order to make their results look more believable as we get closer to election eve.

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by pricejj

All of the left-leaning polls have presented skewed data in hopes of influencing the election. Of course, they pander to the "herd" mentality, which says is most people are voting this way, then I will vote this way too. It's an utterly despicable practice.

What you are seeing now is a shift to the real world, in order to make their results look more believable as we get closer to election eve.

And the left-leaning polls are?

[razorwire77]

National polls are largely irrelevant at this point. It's all about the polling in swing states and the ground game set up in these states. Romney has a very narrow electoral path to the White House. No doubt the race is tightening nationally, but I really doubt that Mitty has enough juice to get to 270. His electoral math is much more difficult than Obama's and his ground game in Ohio is much less significant. The debate may have turned Florida for Romney, but not the necessary number of swing states to turn the election.

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by razorwire77

National polls are largely irrelevant at this point. It's all about the polling in swing states and the ground game set up in these states. Romney has a very narrow electoral path to the White House. No doubt the race is tightening nationally, but I really doubt that Mitty has enough juice to get to 270. His electoral math is much more difficult than Obama's and his ground game in Ohio is much less significant. The debate may have turned Florida for Romney, but not the necessary number of swing states to turn the election.

FWIW, Obama has ~ 40 more campaign HQ in Florida than Mittens does.

[TonyR]

Originally Posted by pricejj

All of the left-leaning polls have presented skewed data in hopes of influencing the election. Of course, they pander to the "herd" mentality, which says is most people are voting this way, then I will vote this way too. It's an utterly despicable practice.

What you are seeing now is a shift to the real world, in order to make their results look more believable as we get closer to election eve.

You do realize what you just typed makes absolutely no sense, right? Why would the evil libruls skew the polls early, and then shift them to the "real world" before the election? Isn't the "closer to election eve" the most important time period? Wouldn't you want to "pander to the herd mentality" at that time? Must be cozy in your cocoon!

[barryr]

Originally Posted by TonyR

You do realize what you just typed makes absolutely no sense, right? Why would the evil libruls skew the polls early, and then shift them to the "real world" before the election? Isn't the "closer to election eve" the most important time period? Wouldn't you want to "pander to the herd mentality" at that time? Must be cozy in your cocoon!

Maybe they want to make sure the Obama supporters vote by telling them hiow close it is, so you better vote. As well as the dead voting and those that plan to vote multiple times for Obama

[SoCalBronco]

David Paleologos of Suffolk University claims Suffolk isnt going to do any more polling in FL, VA and NC because based on data they have seen, its clear they are all going Romney. That's a pretty aggressive claim. He's not a partisan, which makes the claim surprising, considering its a very aggressive claim.

If this is in fact the case (tough to believe), it would suggest that Romney might be able to survive a potential loss in Ohio, so long as he does well either out West (Colorado and Nevada) or in Wisconsin in the alternative.

[Kid A]

Every discussion about the polls over the last couple months, summed up:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...80a9_blog.html

“When you give conservatives bad news in your polls, they want to kill you,” he said. “When you give liberals bad news in your polls, they want to kill themselves.”

[Rohirrim]

It's getting too intense. I just need to step back...


Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

David Paleologos of Suffolk University claims Suffolk isnt going to do any more polling in FL, VA and NC because based on data they have seen, its clear they are all going Romney. That's a pretty aggressive claim. He's not a partisan, which makes the claim surprising, considering its a very aggressive claim.

If this is in fact the case (tough to believe), it would suggest that Romney might be able to survive a potential loss in Ohio, so long as he does well either out West (Colorado and Nevada) or in Wisconsin in the alternative.

Who the **** is that?

[ZONA]

I can tell you one thing for sure, if Romney wins, I'd like to go work on Wallstreet or sell mortgages because there will be almost no regulation and you will be able to get away with anything. Actually, they might be the only jobs left here, the rest will be in China.

[ZONA]

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

David Paleologos of Suffolk University claims Suffolk isnt going to do any more polling in FL, VA and NC because based on data they have seen, its clear they are all going Romney. That's a pretty aggressive claim. He's not a partisan, which makes the claim surprising, considering its a very aggressive claim.

If this is in fact the case (tough to believe), it would suggest that Romney might be able to survive a potential loss in Ohio, so long as he does well either out West (Colorado and Nevada) or in Wisconsin in the alternative.

Nah, he'll need either Ohio or Florida to win, if not both. He lost Michigan because he wanted to let GM die and so with that, he lost their vote right quick.

[Rohirrim]

Looks like Robert Reich shares my opinion of Romney as nothing more than a flim flam man:

Yet Romney is such a chameleon that in last Wednesday's debate he appeared to disavow everything he's stood for, hide many of his former positions, and even sound somewhat moderate.

Meanwhile, for four years the GOP and its auxiliaries in Fox News and yell radio have told terrible lies about our president -- charging he wasn't born in America, he's a socialist, he doesn't share American values. They've disdained and disrespected President Obama in ways no modern president has had to endure.

They've drummed up fear in a public battered by an economic crisis Republicans largely created, while hiding George W. Bush so we won't be reminded. And they've channeled that fear toward President Obama and even to the central institutions of our democracy, casting his administration and our government as the enemy.

They've apparently convinced almost half of America of their lies -- including many who would suffer most under Romney and Ryan.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert...b_1952735.html

[Rohirrim]

Now, Romney says he won't put forward any legislation to stop abortion.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1952780.html

I really don't understand the Right. They scream about their positions, but if their candidate goes in another direction, they just sit on their hands. Why isn't Fox attacking Romney for all his sudden moderate switching of positions?

[TonyR]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Now, Romney says he won't put forward any legislation to stop abortion.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1952780.html

I really don't understand the Right. They scream about their positions, but if their candidate goes in another direction, they just sit on their hands. Why isn't Fox attacking Romney for all his sudden moderate switching of positions?

^ Wow. This issue is perhaps the largest single reason religious conservatives support Romney (well, that and wanted to blow up Iran to save Israel, because that would be the Christian thing to do). And here he is blatantly flip-flopping on the issue again. The guy who was "pro-choice" so he could win in Mass and has now become "pro-life" to win the presidency. And now apparently doesn't know for sure what he is. And people are seriously considering voting for this guy. Sigh. To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle.

[Rohirrim]

And here he is telling Wolf Blitzer that he's not going to tell anybody the details of his tax plan.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1952708.html

In other words, it could by anything. Or nothing. Romney offers to the rabid righties only one thing: He ain't Obama. And that's enough for them. At this point he could say he supports the marriage of flag burning homos, and they'd still vote for him.

[TonyR]

I thought this was good:

I am sorry that the president finds debating before the public to be annoying. And I am very sorry that more Americans don't delve into the footnotes of position papers. And I am very sorry that Mitt Romney was mean to the moderator, and lied to the viewers. And I am especially sorry that Barack Obama was evidently shocked -- shocked! -- to find the party of poll-taxing, evolution-disputing, and climate-change denying engaging in such tactics.

But this is the war we have. And this president has signed up to lead the fight. I think he understands that. Over the past four years Obama has proven to be very slow, but very deadly. I doubt that's changed.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...ng-yet/263378/