Can someone please explain to me..... - The Orange Mane

baja · 10-07-2012, 06:28 PM

the up side of that half on-side / half kick it away call?

What was the potential good outcome of that play?

Someone, anyone?

backup qb · 10-07-2012, 06:29 PM

No idea.

menonite · 10-07-2012, 06:29 PM

Bill Belichick might die from laughter?

AmericanBroncFan · 10-07-2012, 06:31 PM

I have no idea either. There was no point in doing that just like the Lance Ball draw on 3rd and 5 with a chance to get back in the game early in the 3rd Q

Broncos4Life · 10-07-2012, 06:33 PM

Top 10 worst plays in Denver Broncos history. It fits in somewhere there....

McDman · 10-07-2012, 06:35 PM

They were thinking it would get a bad bounce. It didn't.

go_broncos · 10-07-2012, 06:36 PM

You need to ask John Fox..Every game he does these things..

AmericanBroncFan · 10-07-2012, 06:37 PM

The game passed by john fox along time ago.

maher_tyler · 10-07-2012, 06:42 PM

Should have just kicked the onside. Coaches leave me scratching my head just as much as the players do.

Drunken.Broncoholic · 10-07-2012, 06:44 PM

Fox wants to show at least once a game his 1-15 capability.

Dr. Broncenstein · 10-07-2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by menonite

Bill Belichick might die from laughter?

Haha this.

baja · 10-07-2012, 06:47 PM

I mean I honestly can not think of one half assed reason to do that.

Even with the fake field goal the half kick is in a league all it's own. I have never seen a dumber call, never.

Wes Mantooth · 10-07-2012, 06:50 PM

It works well in madden.

errand · 10-07-2012, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baja

the up side of that half on-side / half kick it away call?

What was the potential good outcome of that play?

Someone, anyone?

I think the staff believed that perhaps a ball kicked into an open space over the heads of the opposing team with a good bounce could be recovered a little easier if we can get a player in that area as the receiving team would have to turn around and locate the ball and our guys would see it from the start...but I could be wrong.

baja · 10-07-2012, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by errand

I think the staff believed that perhaps a ball kicked into an open space over the heads of the opposing team with a good bounce could be recovered a little easier if we can get a player in that area as the receiving team would have to turn around and locate the ball and our guys would see it from the start...but I could be wrong.

It was 35 yards down the field behind a wall of blockers that were there expecting an on-side kick which made a bad idea all the more worse.

baja · 10-07-2012, 06:57 PM

Maybe he said just kick it over the heads of the front line of players a little bit and the kicker blew it.

lonestar · 10-07-2012, 07:03 PM

think lots of folks need a chill pill..

errand · 10-07-2012, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by baja

It was 35 yards down the field behind a wall of blockers that were there expecting an on-side kick which made a bad idea all the more worse.

Exactly...they were expecting an onside kick around the Broncos 40-45 yard line, not the Patriots 40 yard line....guess he was hoping our guy could get there before theirs did....

TomServo · 10-08-2012, 12:44 AM

lesse, except for some great clutch play -Late- from our D we didnt think we had enough time? kicking into the great wide open spaces is something nfl teams dont try enough. it didnt work.

BowlenBall · 10-08-2012, 01:03 AM

That was possibly the worst call in yesterday's game (rivaled by the 4th and 5 punt from the Patriots 38).

An onside kick would have given us a chance to recover the ball.

Kicking it deep would have given us a chance to pin them deep in their own territory.

That call split the difference and was the worst of all possible outcomes... by design!

BowlenBall · 10-08-2012, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomServo

lesse, except for some great clutch play -Late- from our D we didnt think we had enough time? kicking into the great wide open spaces is something nfl teams dont try enough. it didnt work.

Huh?

We lined up in on-side kick formation... then took away our own opportunity to recover by kicking it beyond their wall of blockers to a waiting host of 2nd level players.

The play made no sense whatsoever.

baja · 10-08-2012, 11:59 AM

Still would love to have an answer to the OP question.

Beantown Bronco · 10-08-2012, 12:11 PM

It's pretty simple actually. You're counting on your guys, who have a head of steam built up, to outrun the NE front line....who are expecting an on side kick and might be caught off guard and flat-footed. In theory, if it's placed just far enough away from them, it can be done. And the returner, assuming he's on or near the goal line, shouldn't have a chance at it before we get to said spot.

I assume they must've practiced both that style of kick and regular on side kicks and had more success with those during the week. Did no reporters ask him about this in the post game?

jerseyboiler120 · 10-08-2012, 12:14 PM

Like Mr. Miagi said, walk left side of road you fine, walk right side of road you fine, walk middle of road you get squished like the grape.

Tombstone RJ · 10-08-2012, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AmericanBroncFan

I have no idea either. There was no point in doing that just like the Lance Ball draw on 3rd and 5 with a chance to get back in the game early in the 3rd Q

Not so fast my friend (Lee Corso voice)--this was another very calculated play by Fox!

Ya see kids (in my Clark W. Griswold voice), everyone has film on these games and if the Broncos coaching staff throws enough wild hair plays out there over the course of the season, by the time the post season rolls around the other teams flat out don't know what the hell to expect.

10-07-2012, 06:28 PM	#1
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,870 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Can someone please explain to me..... the up side of that half on-side / half kick it away call? What was the potential good outcome of that play? Someone, anyone?

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10-07-2012, 06:29 PM	#2
backup qb Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Shelbyville,Il Posts: 1,244	No idea.

10-07-2012, 06:29 PM	#3
menonite Pro Bowler New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 535 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Bill Belichick might die from laughter?

10-07-2012, 06:31 PM	#4
AmericanBroncFan Seasoned Veteran New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 431 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I have no idea either. There was no point in doing that just like the Lance Ball draw on 3rd and 5 with a chance to get back in the game early in the 3rd Q

10-07-2012, 06:33 PM	#5
Broncos4Life Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: QC....both sides... Posts: 1,777	Top 10 worst plays in Denver Broncos history. It fits in somewhere there....

10-07-2012, 06:35 PM	#6
McDman Ring of Famer Huzzah! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 3,699 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	They were thinking it would get a bad bounce. It didn't.

10-07-2012, 06:36 PM	#7
go_broncos Ring of Famer **** you Bill Vinovich Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 5,219 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	You need to ask John Fox..Every game he does these things..

10-07-2012, 06:37 PM	#8
AmericanBroncFan Seasoned Veteran New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 431 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	The game passed by john fox along time ago.

10-07-2012, 06:42 PM	#9
maher_tyler Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 5,673 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	Should have just kicked the onside. Coaches leave me scratching my head just as much as the players do.

10-07-2012, 06:44 PM	#10
Drunken.Broncoholic Steppin on feet Pickled in Orange and Blue Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Carmel Ca Posts: 6,244 Adopt-a-Bronco: LeLo Lang	Fox wants to show at least once a game his 1-15 capability.

10-07-2012, 06:47 PM	#12
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,870 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	I mean I honestly can not think of one half assed reason to do that. Even with the fake field goal the half kick is in a league all it's own. I have never seen a dumber call, never.

10-07-2012, 06:50 PM	#13
Wes Mantooth Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,453	It works well in madden.

10-07-2012, 06:57 PM	#16
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,870 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Maybe he said just kick it over the heads of the front line of players a little bit and the kicker blew it.

10-07-2012, 07:03 PM	#17
lonestar Day One Fan Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West Texas Posts: 6,213 Adopt-a-Bronco: Decker	think lots of folks need a chill pill..

10-08-2012, 12:44 AM	#19
TomServo Ring of Famer Dancing is Forbidden! Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,013	lesse, except for some great clutch play -Late- from our D we didnt think we had enough time? kicking into the great wide open spaces is something nfl teams dont try enough. it didnt work.

10-08-2012, 01:03 AM	#20
BowlenBall Owner. Philanthropist. Pimp. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 4,346 Adopt-a-Bronco: Lucas Reed	That was possibly the worst call in yesterday's game (rivaled by the 4th and 5 punt from the Patriots 38). An onside kick would have given us a chance to recover the ball. Kicking it deep would have given us a chance to pin them deep in their own territory. That call split the difference and was the worst of all possible outcomes... by design!

10-08-2012, 11:59 AM	#22
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,870 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Still would love to have an answer to the OP question.

10-08-2012, 12:11 PM	#23
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,041 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	It's pretty simple actually. You're counting on your guys, who have a head of steam built up, to outrun the NE front line....who are expecting an on side kick and might be caught off guard and flat-footed. In theory, if it's placed just far enough away from them, it can be done. And the returner, assuming he's on or near the goal line, shouldn't have a chance at it before we get to said spot. I assume they must've practiced both that style of kick and regular on side kicks and had more success with those during the week. Did no reporters ask him about this in the post game?

10-08-2012, 12:14 PM	#24
jerseyboiler120 Seasoned Veteran New to the Forum Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 304 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Like Mr. Miagi said, walk left side of road you fine, walk right side of road you fine, walk middle of road you get squished like the grape.