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Old 09-28-2012, 11:23 AM   #1
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Governor Romney and I are about the same age. Like millions of others in our generation, we came to adulthood facing the harsh realities of the Vietnam War.

2.7 million in our age group went to Vietnam, a war which eventually took the lives of 58,000 young Americans and cost another 300,000 wounded. The Marine Corps lost 100,000 killed or wounded in that war. During the year I was in Vietnam, 1969, our country lost twice as many dead as we have lost in Iraq and Afghanistan combined over the past 10 years of war. 1968 was worse. 1967 was about the same. Not a day goes by when I do not think about the young Marines I was privileged to lead.

This was a time of conscription, where every American male was eligible to be drafted. People made choices about how to deal with the draft, and about military service. I have never envied or resented any of the choices that were made as long as they were done within the law. But those among us who stepped forward to face the harsh unknowns and the lifelong changes that can come from combat did so with the belief that their service would be honored, and that our leaders would, in the words of President Abraham Lincoln, care for those who had borne the battle, and for their widows and their children.

Those young Marines that I led have grown older now. They’ve lived lives of courage, both in combat and after their return, where many of them were derided by their own peers for having served. That was a long time ago. They are not bitter. They know what they did. But in receiving veterans’ benefits, they are not takers. They were givers, in the ultimate sense of that word. There is a saying among war veterans: “All gave some, some gave all.” This is not a culture of dependency. It is a part of a long tradition that gave this country its freedom and independence. They paid, some with their lives, some through wounds and disabilities, some through their emotional scars, some through the lost opportunities and delayed entry into civilian careers which had already begun for many of their peers who did not serve.

And not only did they pay. They will not say this, so I will say it for them. They are owed, if nothing else, at least a mention, some word of thanks and respect, when a presidential candidate who is their generational peer makes a speech accepting his party’s nomination to be commander-in-chief. And they are owed much more than that — a guarantee that we will never betray the commitment that we made to them and to their loved ones.
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:24 PM   #2
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Webb is now a Democrat. He switched parties awhile ago. Also his boy is still an active officer in the Corp.
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:28 PM   #3
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Read his book "Fields of Fire" when it was first published. Powerful stuff!
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Old 09-28-2012, 05:23 PM   #4
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The slamming has only just begun for Dog On Roof...

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Old 09-28-2012, 09:55 PM   #5
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Webb was powerful. Mitt the Maladroit Twit should probably stay out of VA.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:53 PM   #6
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Webb was powerful. Mitt the Maladroit Twit should probably stay out of VA.
VA won't matter, it's already Obama's. The GOP's unsuccessful attempt to remove Virgil Goode from the ballot will make sure of that. Polls show the third party candidate getting anywhere from 2-5% of the vote, and considering he's ultra conservative, a vote for Virgil Goode is a vote for Obama.

He's up anywhere from 4-8% depending on what poll you look at.

Virginia has been Obama's since the GOP's failed attempt a few weeks ago to fix the election by eliminating legitimate competition for their own spot.
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Old 09-29-2012, 06:12 AM   #7
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I can't believe no one is bringing up the fact that Romney protested FOR THE DRAFT!

He protested the protesters who were against the war, if that is your take, you had better be ready to sign up and not dodge the draft. He has no care for the value of a soldier who gave Mitt Romney these opportunities.

Protest the anti war people then never ever have any inclination to fight. He got a "religious draft deferment" because he believe in crazy religious hoodoo.

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Old 09-29-2012, 07:54 AM   #8
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Mitt was very much for the war in Vietnam because Daddy George was, at first. He was on his mission in France and the French didn't take that well. He was granted 4 different student deferments, then the ministerial deferment. He had a high lottery number in the draft lottery. But then Daddy decided the war was stupid and Mitt agreed but did continue to support Nixon's Cambodian debacle as he stupidly viewed it as a way to end the war.

This amazes me. He is so enthusiastic to throw our guys into skirmish's around the world. It's easy isn't it Mitt? It's not you, it's not your kids, and you don't care because these guys are part of the 47%. What a douche.
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Old 09-29-2012, 08:12 AM   #9
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When I was in the Infantry, it was constantly hammered into us, we are a team. We are Americans. We leave no one behind. If one of the guys starts dropping out, you go back and pick him up and carry him. We are all in this together. That's what it's all about.








Say something like that in civilian life and they call you a socialist.
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