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Old 09-23-2012, 10:01 PM   #1
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If you watched the end of the NE/BAL game you'll know what I am talking about. Why don't the uprights of NFL goal posts go up at least another 30 or 50 feet so there is absolutely no disputing if a field goal is good or not. A goal post should be high enough so that field goals cannot possibly be kicked over the top of the uprights.

If they don't want to make the goal posts higher, they should suspend a camera hanging from a cable thats stretched across the top of the stadium in such a way so that you can get an overhead shot looking straight down at the top of the upright. That would give a conclusive view if field goals are good or not.

Why should we have to trust these refs?

Having said that, I am glad to see the Patriots lose. I don't like them.

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Old 09-23-2012, 10:04 PM   #2
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Lasers. Shooting straight up from on the top of the poles. Extending up into forever. And then, after touchdowns, they could start spinning and shooting out all over in 20 different colors as Pink Floyd plays over the PA. Make it happen, Goodell.
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I am assuming the physics of building them higher would require beefed up bases and additional structure. Given that disputes like tonight do not happen often enough it probably is overkill.

That said, the league needs to focus on getting rid of these abysmal replacement refs rather than fixing the upright issue. Refs are pathetic.
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I am assuming the physics of building them higher would require beefed up bases and additional structure. Given that disputes like tonight do not happen often enough it probably is overkill.

That said, the league needs to focus on getting rid of these abysmal replacement refs rather than fixing the upright issue. Refs are pathetic.
I wondered about the physics, but I disagree about how often you see FG's kicked over the top of uprights. It seems like I have seen several such FG's attempted every year.
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I am assuming the physics of building them higher would require beefed up bases and additional structure. Given that disputes like tonight do not happen often enough it probably is overkill.

That said, the league needs to focus on getting rid of these abysmal replacement refs rather than fixing the upright issue. Refs are pathetic.
Yeah.

I'm really amazed at how much talk (not just on this site) is about "X or Y rule should be changed." The current NFL refs can barely get the current rules straight, let's not put the horse before the cart.

FIRST get refs who know their ass from a hole in the ground. THEN evaluate the legitimacy of current NFL rules.

Hell, maybe if they made the refs full time positions they'd have an opinion on what can be done with the current rules instead of just letting the competition committee try and deal with them.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:11 PM   #6
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Lasers. Shooting straight up from on the top of the poles. Extending up into forever. And then, after touchdowns, they could start spinning and shooting out all over in 20 different colors as Pink Floyd plays over the PA. Make it happen, Goodell.
This could be a solution. Activate the lasers on FG attempts. Deactivate them during all other parts of games so not to be unnecessary distractions.
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Lasers. Shooting straight up from on the top of the poles. Extending up into forever. And then, after touchdowns, they could start spinning and shooting out all over in 20 different colors as Pink Floyd plays over the PA. Make it happen, Goodell.
Well that isn't a bad idea, the laser part. Screw pink floyd though, it should be the Doors!

The problem with lasers is you need an end reference to help tell a system that a ball broke the plane. Think garage door sensors that stop a door from closing if something breaks the beam on the bottom. You could do it in closed roof stadiums but ones like Mile High there is no roof to place an end sensor.

I am sure there is technology out there that could be used though. Maybe a GPS based system. The ones in our phones or car navigation aren't accurate enough as they can have an error of several feet. But they could use a GPS like land surveyors use where it ties to a base unit that sets a ground reference and triangulates the location and gives a much more accurate location, within centimeters. Or maybe use WAAS or LAAS technology.

Okay, I have thought about this way too much now!
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The problem with lasers is you need an end reference to help tell a system that a ball broke the plane.
Here's your end reference

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Dude, genius. Just send Superman up with receiver and have him use his laser eye power to calibrate.

Great use of "out of the box thinking"!

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It goes back to the old idea of wiring up the ball/stadium. Kind of takes the fun out of it (imho) if it gets too precise.
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Old 09-24-2012, 01:14 AM   #11
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Lasers. Shooting straight up from on the top of the poles. Extending up into forever. And then, after touchdowns, they could start spinning and shooting out all over in 20 different colors as Pink Floyd plays over the PA. Make it happen, Goodell.

Good luck with that. Goodell would probably hire "Fink Ployd," a high school cover band. Sure they don't know all of the songs or even how to play all of their instruments - but Roger Waters hit a wrong note just last year. So they're exactly as good.
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It's completely stupid they can't make them longer. With the materials of today, they could easily be longer and not add any additional weight and still be just as strong.
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Call me crazy but can't cameras pretty much pinpoint whether it's good or not? It isn't like they're analyzing the Zapruder film or a Bigfoot video or something.
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I'm for whatever makes Belichick loose his shiat. Lower them if necessary.
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Don't think the FAA would be happy about the laser idea.
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lol...Nice!
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Aren't all scoring plays supposed to be reviewed anyway?
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Laser Floyd and football, faces would melt.
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Old 09-24-2012, 09:31 AM   #19
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Lasers. Shooting straight up from on the top of the poles. Extending up into forever. And then, after touchdowns, they could start spinning and shooting out all over in 20 different colors as Pink Floyd plays over the PA. Make it happen, Goodell.
Love this idea. But as previous poster pointed out it does have flaws. I think that could be easily fixed with a cable extended way above the crossbar with laser attached.

I'd also like to have smart fields. Lasers rigged all up and down the field with a chip in the ball. If there is any question whatsoever as to where the ball is down the system already knows. No more reason to measure for a first down because the system would already know. Do you want to know if the ball crossed into the endzone? Consult the system. Just take that much more ref influence out of the game.
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In tennis, by use of cameras, they can determine to the millimeter where the ball landed on challenges, the same technology isn't available to the NFL?
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Lasers. Shooting straight up from on the top of the poles. Extending up into forever. And then, after touchdowns, they could start spinning and shooting out all over in 20 different colors as Pink Floyd plays over the PA. Make it happen, Goodell.
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A friggin' "laser"...
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Love this idea. But as previous poster pointed out it does have flaws. I think that could be easily fixed with a cable extended way above the crossbar with laser attached.

I'd also like to have smart fields. Lasers rigged all up and down the field with a chip in the ball. If there is any question whatsoever as to where the ball is down the system already knows. No more reason to measure for a first down because the system would already know. Do you want to know if the ball crossed into the endzone? Consult the system. Just take that much more ref influence out of the game.
Put something in the whistles so that when the play is dead the ball knows it. Otherwise players doing spikes and shi* with the ball after the play would get annoying.
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It's only a controversial call for those who don't matter (everyone but the refs). It's pretty clear whether the ball's in or not when you're standing directly under the goal post.
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If you watched the end of the NE/BAL game you'll know what I am talking about. Why don't the uprights of NFL goal posts go up at least another 30 or 50 feet so there is absolutely no disputing if a field goal is good or not. A goal post should be high enough so that field goals cannot possibly be kicked over the top of the uprights.

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Why should we have to trust these refs?

Having said that, I am glad to see the Patriots lose. I don't like them.
Actually, theres an easy solution. Put a sensor like a laser on the goal posts. This laser points directly up toward the sky, one laser on each post. You only turn the laser on when there's a kick. If the Ball goes above one of the tops of the posts the laser is triggered. If more than 50% of the ball is on the inside of the laser the kick is good. If more than 50% of the ball is on the outside of the laser, the kick is not good.
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