NFL Called down to Fox and JDR at half time re: Refs and are Fined - The Orange Mane

GreasyQtip · 09-23-2012, 07:57 AM

Adam Schefter popped on ESPN this morning and dropped a whopper. He says even though those two have not been fined yet, they will.

It was so bad the NFL called down to the field during halftime and told them to stop it!

Found the article: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/84...se-source-says

That One Guy · 09-23-2012, 08:00 AM

For some reason I find it hilarious.

I mean, the first challenge of the night was for a silly flag challenge when the ball was clearly tipped. The second was when Fox clearly believed he actually only had 11 for some reason. With most crews, he'd be assuming they were right and figuring out what happened. These crews were such garbage that he just assumed they messed up something else. So everytime they blew a call, he had no challenges because they were blowing too many calls. Infuriating^Infinity

OrangeSe7en · 09-23-2012, 08:21 AM

On what grounds are they being fined? This is hardly the first time a coach has lit into referees. This seems like more of Goodell being Goodell.

Pendejo · 09-23-2012, 08:24 AM

The league should watch it with trying to get involved during the course of the game. Especially considering they've created the mess. It could easily be construed as their trying to have an impact on the outcome of the game. Which opens another pandora's box re: fixing games and what not. They already had to pull one guy who proudly displayed his fandom. Perhaps things wouldn't have gone so poorly if they hired guys who actually understood the rules, and ****ing pay attention during the game. All officials in all sports are terrible, but these guys have really taken ineptitude to Chiefs like levels.

Fox and Del Rio should not only not pay, but all the players need to walk out on a Wednesday, and not return until the bozos simply cave. The league office doesn't give two sh*ts about the integrity of the game. Solely revenue. Take control back by not playing. It's what the owners would do. Player safety is going to become an increasing issue as the inmates are clearly running the asylum.

Once again their answer is to not only ignore the problem, but to assure us that there isn't one as well. When you get down to brass tacks they're nothing more than conniving carnies.

They probably found the replacements on craigslist.

Pendejo · 09-23-2012, 08:30 AM

Honestly, I don't know why they'd even answer a call from the league office at this point. Don't they have caller ID?

DBroncos4life · 09-23-2012, 08:35 AM

But but but The old refs missed calls too!

OrangeSe7en · 09-23-2012, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

But but but The old refs missed calls too!

It's not that the regular refs were so stellar. Part of the problem with these guys is that they lack experience with the NFLs rules (some of which are stupid). They haven't had a lot of lead time. But the NFL is the one who has created this scenario and the coaches put a lot of themselves into these games and have a lot on the line with their outcomes. The NFL is just being a bully in how they're coming down on the coaches considering it's their own fault. This is just another example of Goodell saying, "I don't like that; youre fined." Im still confused why they're being fined since it's not as if this is the first time a coach has gone after referees.

oubronco · 09-23-2012, 08:51 AM

"I don't care what the league fines me, these (replacement) refs are terrible," one NFL head coach said last week.

Could this have been Fox?

tsiguy96 · 09-23-2012, 08:53 AM

if you were the head coach of a team that was actively being screwed by the refs, your playoff position, wins and ultimately career are affected, 20k isnt going to stop you.

DenverBroncosJM · 09-23-2012, 08:55 AM

Maybe they should fine players too.. I saw at least twice that a player complained for a flag and got it. That's horse ****

Lev Vyvanse · 09-23-2012, 09:07 AM

NFL couldn't have handled this thing any worse. They just told every team the refs can't control the games by themselves.

peacepipe · 09-23-2012, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeSe7en

On what grounds are they being fined? This is hardly the first time a coach has lit into referees. This seems like more of Goodell being Goodell.

on the grounds of not losing leverage over the real refs. with every poorly reffed game the more leverage swings towards the refs.

OrangeSe7en · 09-23-2012, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe

on the grounds of not losing leverage over the real refs. with every poorly reffed game the more leverage swings towards the refs.

I acknowledge that. But even still, there should be some justification on the face. When you've overlooked decades of coaches getting on refs, you need to have some reason for fining coaches. Goodell can't just outwardly say he's fining them because they're causing the league to lose leverage (even though what you point out is correct). He has to have some justification on the face.

peacepipe · 09-23-2012, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeSe7en

I acknowledge that. But even still, there should be some justification on the face. When you've overlooked decades of coaches getting on refs, you need to have some reason for fining coaches. Goodell can't just outwardly say he's fining them because they're causing the league to lose leverage (even though what you point out is correct). He has to have some justification on the face.

I think you may be underestimating how strongly goodell wants to win against the refs.

Play2win · 09-23-2012, 10:30 AM

The fix is in.

Dr. Broncenstein · 09-23-2012, 10:55 AM

Quit drawing attention to the nationally televised train wreck or you will be fined.

theAPAOps5 · 09-23-2012, 11:20 AM

Wow, talk about a deafening statement. The replacement refs were so had two NFL coaches had to be called by the principal at halftime to layoff.

Yeah Fox and JDR probably crossed the line but it was the refs who bungled that game so had they lost complete control. Sorry NFL, your regular refs bungle calls too but you never see a coach come utterly unglued. It's because the pro refs I ow how to maintain control and have EARNED a god chunk of respect from the players and coaches. These scab refs will NEVER earn that. Everyone knows they are gone soon.

Bacchus · 09-23-2012, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe

I think you may be underestimating how strongly goodell wants to win against the refs.

him and the owners want this win badly

McDman · 09-23-2012, 12:36 PM

I was at the game and while they deserved to be yelled at, Fox took it a little far. It got old really fast.

Hulamau · 09-23-2012, 03:23 PM

We have some STUPID MOFO players on this team! Jesus Bolden, get your head out of your ass.

Need at least one more year of building the bench and talent base all around. With some SMARTS please!

Hulamau · 09-23-2012, 03:29 PM

45 yards on this drive on roughing the passer calls! Thats the way to slow them down!!

Hulamau · 09-23-2012, 03:31 PM

Avoiding just two of those PF penalites and we avoid their FG and would have had the ball back already and driving... No we need two unanswered TDs with no more scoring by them .. a tall order.

Hulamau · 09-23-2012, 03:33 PM

Our team will get better as the season progresses, but its a pisser we had to start with three of the very top teams in the NFL back to back to back...

Vine · 09-23-2012, 03:36 PM

Denver wastes a timeout. Brilliant.

Vine · 09-23-2012, 03:37 PM

I don't even think the Joe Mays roughing was roughing the passer. It was NOT helmet to helmet (Schaub's helmet was hit by May's chest), and it was very bang bang. It was a violent hit, but it wasn't late or dirty.

09-23-2012, 07:57 AM	#1
GreasyQtip Solid Starter New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 159 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	NFL Called down to Fox and JDR at half time re: Refs and are Fined Adam Schefter popped on ESPN this morning and dropped a whopper. He says even though those two have not been fined yet, they will. It was so bad the NFL called down to the field during halftime and told them to stop it! Found the article: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/84...se-source-says Last edited by GreasyQtip; 09-23-2012 at 08:01 AM.. Reason: article added

09-23-2012, 08:24 AM	#4
Pendejo The off-season. Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,946 Adopt-a-Bronco: "The Greek"	The league should watch it with trying to get involved during the course of the game. Especially considering they've created the mess. It could easily be construed as their trying to have an impact on the outcome of the game. Which opens another pandora's box re: fixing games and what not. They already had to pull one guy who proudly displayed his fandom. Perhaps things wouldn't have gone so poorly if they hired guys who actually understood the rules, and ***ing pay attention during the game. All officials in all sports are terrible, but these guys have really taken ineptitude to Chiefs like levels. Fox and Del Rio should not only not pay, but all the players need to walk out on a Wednesday, and not return until the bozos simply cave. The league office doesn't give two shts about the integrity of the game. Solely revenue. Take control back by not playing. It's what the owners would do. Player safety is going to become an increasing issue as the inmates are clearly running the asylum. Once again their answer is to not only ignore the problem, but to assure us that there isn't one as well. When you get down to brass tacks they're nothing more than conniving carnies. They probably found the replacements on craigslist. Last edited by Pendejo; 09-23-2012 at 08:27 AM..

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09-23-2012, 08:00 AM	#2
That One Guy Producer of Nonsense Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sun and Beachville Posts: 14,042 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	For some reason I find it hilarious. I mean, the first challenge of the night was for a silly flag challenge when the ball was clearly tipped. The second was when Fox clearly believed he actually only had 11 for some reason. With most crews, he'd be assuming they were right and figuring out what happened. These crews were such garbage that he just assumed they messed up something else. So everytime they blew a call, he had no challenges because they were blowing too many calls. Infuriating^Infinity

09-23-2012, 08:21 AM	#3
OrangeSe7en Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,666 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	On what grounds are they being fined? This is hardly the first time a coach has lit into referees. This seems like more of Goodell being Goodell.

09-23-2012, 08:30 AM	#5
Pendejo The off-season. Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,946 Adopt-a-Bronco: "The Greek"	Honestly, I don't know why they'd even answer a call from the league office at this point. Don't they have caller ID?

09-23-2012, 08:35 AM	#6
DBroncos4life Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU Why yes, that is Bacon Bacon. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The wrong side of right. Posts: 26,558	But but but The old refs missed calls too!

09-23-2012, 08:51 AM	#8
oubronco John Foneco !! Mile High Magic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sooner Country Posts: 20,604	"I don't care what the league fines me, these (replacement) refs are terrible," one NFL head coach said last week. Could this have been Fox?

09-23-2012, 08:53 AM	#9
tsiguy96 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,559 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	if you were the head coach of a team that was actively being screwed by the refs, your playoff position, wins and ultimately career are affected, 20k isnt going to stop you.

09-23-2012, 08:55 AM	#10
DenverBroncosJM Post here Vine Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California Posts: 975	Maybe they should fine players too.. I saw at least twice that a player complained for a flag and got it. That's horse ****

09-23-2012, 09:07 AM	#11
Lev Vyvanse Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 3,040	NFL couldn't have handled this thing any worse. They just told every team the refs can't control the games by themselves.

09-23-2012, 10:30 AM	#15
Play2win Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 9,610 Adopt-a-Bronco: The Duke	The fix is in.

09-23-2012, 10:55 AM	#16
Dr. Broncenstein Overdriven Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sterile Fields Posts: 11,619 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Woodyard	Quit drawing attention to the nationally televised train wreck or you will be fined.

09-23-2012, 11:20 AM	#17
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,058 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	Wow, talk about a deafening statement. The replacement refs were so had two NFL coaches had to be called by the principal at halftime to layoff. Yeah Fox and JDR probably crossed the line but it was the refs who bungled that game so had they lost complete control. Sorry NFL, your regular refs bungle calls too but you never see a coach come utterly unglued. It's because the pro refs I ow how to maintain control and have EARNED a god chunk of respect from the players and coaches. These scab refs will NEVER earn that. Everyone knows they are gone soon.

09-23-2012, 12:36 PM	#19
McDman Ring of Famer Huzzah! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 3,699 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I was at the game and while they deserved to be yelled at, Fox took it a little far. It got old really fast.

09-23-2012, 03:23 PM	#20
Hulamau Polynesian Paralysis In the Pocket Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hulaville and Sedona Posts: 8,035 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eric Decker	We have some STUPID MOFO players on this team! Jesus Bolden, get your head out of your ass. Need at least one more year of building the bench and talent base all around. With some SMARTS please!

09-23-2012, 03:29 PM	#21
Hulamau Polynesian Paralysis In the Pocket Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hulaville and Sedona Posts: 8,035 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eric Decker	45 yards on this drive on roughing the passer calls! Thats the way to slow them down!!

09-23-2012, 03:31 PM	#22
Hulamau Polynesian Paralysis In the Pocket Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hulaville and Sedona Posts: 8,035 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eric Decker	Avoiding just two of those PF penalites and we avoid their FG and would have had the ball back already and driving... No we need two unanswered TDs with no more scoring by them .. a tall order.

09-23-2012, 03:33 PM	#23
Hulamau Polynesian Paralysis In the Pocket Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hulaville and Sedona Posts: 8,035 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eric Decker	Our team will get better as the season progresses, but its a pisser we had to start with three of the very top teams in the NFL back to back to back...

09-23-2012, 03:36 PM	#24
Vine Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Chadron, Nebraska Posts: 1,933 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Denver wastes a timeout. Brilliant.

09-23-2012, 03:37 PM	#25
Vine Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Chadron, Nebraska Posts: 1,933 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I don't even think the Joe Mays roughing was roughing the passer. It was NOT helmet to helmet (Schaub's helmet was hit by May's chest), and it was very bang bang. It was a violent hit, but it wasn't late or dirty.