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Old 09-18-2012, 07:27 AM   #1
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"Eric Decker was on the ball for sure," said Thomas. "Decker had the ball and they just took it from him. The referees pulled Decker off the ball.
"We knew we had the ball, but the referees said the Falcons had it. There were a couple calls that we felt were wrong."

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Old 09-18-2012, 07:30 AM   #2
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It sure looked like Decker got on top of the ball early in the scramble but didn't look like he secured it and no way to know whether he ever "controlled" it. Just one of those things.
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Old 09-18-2012, 07:31 AM   #3
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just a situation these refs have never seen and didnt know how to respond, they again may have responded to player input instead of what happened on the field.
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Old 09-18-2012, 07:41 AM   #4
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A Bronco was the last player you could see with the ball before the 'scrum.'

A Bronco had possession of the ball when they unpiled everyone.

A Bronco is b****ing about it to the media (risking a fine for doing so).

Bush league at best, screw job at worst.
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:21 AM   #5
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that was the most wtf moment of the night for me. Franklin fell on the ball and recovered it, then people jumped all around him. At the end his position didn't change at all nor did the players positions around him and how they landed. Franklin then comes up with the ball but somehow that means Atlantas ball Bull****....
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Old 09-18-2012, 09:26 AM   #6
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just a situation these refs have never seen and didnt know how to respond, they again may have responded to player input instead of what happened on the field.
How is it possible they've never seen a fumble and ensuing dog pile? That happens in every game from pop Warner up.

I would be less disappointed in them if they were just screwing up some nfl specific rules like illegal contact. But these guys can't get basic football right.
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Old 09-18-2012, 09:27 AM   #7
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Really if Denver gets that ball they probably win the game.....oh wait they did get the ball. I meant to say if the stupid ****ing a-hole mother****ing b**** refs had made the proper call and awarded Denver the ball they probably would have won the game.
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If that worthless POS KM protects the ball instead of trying to put on the dance moves we score something that drive and we could be talking about a Bronco victory.

Instead we are b****ing about a bad call because our bust of a 1st round pick fumbled the ball.

Trade him now please, I would prefer to go in to battle with Lance Ball and start the Hillman era than put up with Dancing Machine.
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Old 09-18-2012, 09:49 AM   #9
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How is it possible they've never seen a fumble and ensuing dog pile? That happens in every game from pop Warner up.

I would be less disappointed in them if they were just screwing up some nfl specific rules like illegal contact. But these guys can't get basic football right.
This. I'm pretty sure that those refs have seen a fumble before. And I'm 100% positive that regular refs get fumble recovery calls wrong all the time.

The problem is their inability to maintain control of the game. That first quarter, even with Manning's 3 INTs, should have taken 30-40 minutes to play. It took over an hour.
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If that worthless POS KM protects the ball instead of trying to put on the dance moves we score something that drive and we could be talking about a Bronco victory.

Instead we are b****ing about a bad call because our bust of a 1st round pick fumbled the ball.

Trade him now please, I would prefer to go in to battle with Lance Ball and start the Hillman era than put up with Dancing Machine.
So angry. Did your uncle touch you as a child?

Anyway. I think it's very relevant that the refs missed the call. Of course we wouldn't be talking about a bad call if he hadn't fumbled it. Then again, the fumble wouldn't have been a big deal if Peyton hadn't thrown 3 picks. Although irrational morons would likely still blame Moreno.

And Peyton's 3 picks wouldn't have mattered as much if the refs don't call a phantom PI on Carter. And that wouldn't have mattered if they called holding on Doom and Von all game. And if the Broncos had intercepted Ryan on the last drive, we could have did this and that.

Hogwash. What happened happened. Moreno fumbled. Durrrr. We have every right to talk about the call. The fact that he fumbled doesn't mean the call was any less wrong...especially when the right call WOULDN'T HAVE RESULTED IN SAID FUMBLE.

You're straight retarded if you'd rather have Ball over Moreno. That's just bias and hate you're channeling.

The mouthbreathing and torch carrying is strong in here.

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Old 09-18-2012, 10:19 AM   #11
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So angry. Did your uncle touch you as a child?
Anyway. I think it's very relevant that the refs missed the call. Of course we wouldn't be talking about a bad call if he hadn't fumbled it. Then again, the fumble wouldn't have been a big deal if Peyton hadn't thrown 3 picks. Although irrational morons would likely still blame Moreno.

And Peyton's 3 picks wouldn't have mattered as much if the refs don't call a phantom PI on Carter. And that wouldn't have mattered if they called holding on Doom and Von all game. And if the Broncos had intercepted Ryan on the last drive, we could have did this and that.

Hogwash. What happened happened. Moreno fumbled. Durrrr. We have every right to talk about the call. The fact that he fumbled doesn't mean the call was any less wrong...especially when the right call WOULDN'T HAVE RESULTED IN SAID FUMBLE.

You're straight retarded if you'd rather have Ball over Moreno. That's just bias and hate you're channeling.

The mouthbreathing and torch carrying is strong in here.

This dude sucks and doesn't deserve to post here. Ban his ass.
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:29 AM   #12
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That play was the by far the most dumb call I ever saw in any level of football. I still don't get it? It seemed like Franklin recovered it and Decker was right next to him. That play changed the game!
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Hmmmm. I didn't mean to offend anyone.

Perhaps it wasn't the best choice of words, but it's no less vitriolic than other things here.
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A Bronco was the last player you could see with the ball before the 'scrum.'

A Bronco had possession of the ball when they unpiled everyone.

A Bronco is b****ing about it to the media (risking a fine for doing so).

Bush league at best, screw job at worst.
this... I just about threw something at my TV during this whole scene. Disgrace...
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:40 AM   #15
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If that worthless POS KM protects the ball instead of trying to put on the dance moves we score something that drive and we could be talking about a Bronco victory.

Instead we are b****ing about a bad call because our bust of a 1st round pick fumbled the ball.

Trade him now please, I would prefer to go in to battle with Lance Ball and start the Hillman era than put up with Dancing Machine.
You are delusional to think Ball is better than KM. Plus, where is the blame on PM 3 INTS?! Yes KM fumbled, so has WM. Put your anger for a player aside and think rationally. It was PM INTs and the horrible refs that cost us the game. Even though he fumbled, we clearly recovered the ball only to see the refs steal it from us.
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:46 AM   #16
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Ball got decent yardage on his one carry.

Moreno got nothing on his 3 or 4 carries and fumbled the ball on his one decent run. A run that McGahee probably would have taken to the house with the sized hole that the line opened up.
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Ball got decent yardage on his one carry.

Moreno got nothing on his 3 or 4 carries and fumbled the ball on his one decent run. A run that McGahee probably would have taken to the house with the sized hole that the line opened up.
Yeah... he got decent yardage in the game when everyone is expecting pass because of how back we where in the 4th. Plus KM got hit behind the LOS 2 times. Our interior OL... heck all of our OL played a sub par game.
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:34 AM   #18
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With 99% of bad calls you can at least rationalize how such a bad call was made.

In this case, I'm not sure how they could've ever arrived at the call they made.

There was no evidence whatsoever that a Falcon ever possessed the ball for any part of that play. At the very least, if possession can't be reliably confirmed either way, the ball should revert to the team that possessed it.

"If in doubt, give the ball to the other team" has got to be one of the craziest calls ever made in the NFL.
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Ball got decent yardage on his one carry.

Moreno got nothing on his 3 or 4 carries and fumbled the ball on his one decent run. A run that McGahee probably would have taken to the house with the sized hole that the line opened up.
Knowshon is better simply because he had more carries. Or so I'm told.
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Yeah... he got decent yardage in the game when everyone is expecting pass because of how back we where in the 4th. Plus KM got hit behind the LOS 2 times. Our interior OL... heck all of our OL played a sub par game.
You fail to mention the gaping Rosanne Barr sized hole that the interior line opened up for Moreno on the carry which he chose to ignore and instead cut outside, bumbled for 4 yards and proceeded to fumble the ball. I can name 30 backs in the league that would have jump cut inside and broken that run for 25 + yards (including the deactivated one already on the roster.)

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Knowshon is better simply because he had more carries. Or so I'm told.
You're not John Fox or John Elway so you aren't allowed to have an opinion about KM. Or so I've read.
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Franklin was just doing an interview on the Fan and they asked him about the fumble. He said that he was the first to possess the ball, but the refs were yelling "red ball" before anybody had it. The Falcons never had possession, he had it the whole time.
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It sure looked like Decker got on top of the ball early in the scramble but didn't look like he secured it and no way to know whether he ever "controlled" it. Just one of those things.
Unless the refs saw the ball inside and wrapped with a Falcons' player, wy would they call Falcons ball so early if it hasn't been determined? Also, who came up with the ball but a Bronco.
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I've never seen such an obviously blown fumble recovery call. They always error on the side of whoever comes out of the pile with the ball, unless there is clear evidence that something else happened. I'm sure referees have gotten it wrong before, but never on a play where no Atlanta player ever appeared to even have touched the damn ball.

It is literally the single worst call I've ever seen. You can't sugarcoat it. It ended up being a 10 point swing (how much did we lose by??).

This was the biggest joke of a game I've ever seen. Just awful.
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:57 AM   #25
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Hmmmm. I didn't mean to offend anyone.

Perhaps it wasn't the best choice of words, but it's no less vitriolic than other things here.
Whether you meant to offend anyone or not, what you posted is far more than "not the best choice of words"; it's a violation of one of the OrangeMane's most "engraved-in-granite" rules: no family smack. You're new here and obviously weren't aware that running family smack will result in a temporary ban... ignorance of the rules isn't a license to break them, however. See you in 10 days.

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