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Old 09-18-2012, 12:04 AM   #1
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:06 AM   #2
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Okay no poll coming, I forgot how to do it.

I say yes. More explosive and a chance to take it to the house. Leonard is slow back there.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:06 AM   #3
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No, not worth risking injury.

Leonard is the best possession punt returner we've really ever had. Him and Welker are equivalent when it comes to maintaining possession off a punt.

I remember Rex Ryan saying he'd trust Leonard catching a punt in a blizzard.

He also doesn't really provide a home run threat... he's faster but he he's still not fast.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:07 AM   #4
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No, not worth risking injury.

Leonard is the best possession punt returner we've really ever had. Him and Welker are equivalent when it comes to maintaining possession off a punt.

I remember Rex Ryan saying he'd trust Leonard catching a punt in a blizzard.
I agree with this. Unless we need a big return..kinda the way the did it tonight.
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No, not worth risking injury.

Leonard is the best possession punt returner we've really ever had. Him and Welker are equivalent when it comes to maintaining possession off a punt.

I remember Rex Ryan saying he'd trust Leonard catching a punt in a blizzard.
I hate this logic. Put him back there. Like last year Royal should've returned every punt. Patrick Peterson returns punts. Why not use Decker to do it?
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:13 AM   #6
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I hate this logic. Put him back there. Like last year Royal should've returned every punt. Patrick Peterson returns punts. Why not use Decker to do it?
Peterson is a punt return specialist... so is Royal. Those are part of of their resume...

Decker is not a punt returner.

The way they did it tonight was good...

If anything I'd rather have Matt Willis back there.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:16 AM   #7
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Except that Leonhard hasn't shown us anything yet....except that he's slow as hell on the return. It was almost like Brooking trying to return a punt. I agree that Decker is too valuable, so yeah, as noted by others above, that kinda leaves Matt Willis.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:17 AM   #8
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Punt return in general needs to be 100% replaced. Their blocking sucked and this needs to be a big part of our team as well as our defense plays. Drop leonard and go get a true returner.

We have an amazing punter, great fg kicker and are missing out on 5-6 plays a game w/out a decent return man.

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Old 09-18-2012, 12:19 AM   #9
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Leonard isn't there to be a home run threat or to gain huge yards... it's evident by how slow he is. He's there with the idea to keep possession of the ball... He catches the punt cleaner than anyone I've seen on the Broncos.

But yeah, we do need a punt returner... Leonard isn't getting cut, he actually gets reps on defense.
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We have an amazing punter, great fg kicker and are missing out on 5-6 plays a game w/out a decent return man.
Yep, start Decker.

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Old 09-18-2012, 12:52 AM   #11
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might as well he isn't doing much else.
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:13 AM   #12
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I don't like either of the 2 on punt return. And to say Leonard is back there because he's not going to drop the ball then you're conceding any type of threat of a return, which is weak. You no longer get to return kicks anymore basically so the punt return is really the only place now that you can make a big special teams play, it's a great chance to flip field position. It's no so much that Leonard is slow, he's just catching the ball and trotting for the fist 2 seconds. Get the ball and go, figure it out on the way. You can't sit there for 2 or 3 seconds and slowly walk or trot trying to figure out where you want to go. You just have to get going, and then figure it out.
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I don't like either of the 2 on punt return. And to say Leonard is back there because he's not going to drop the ball then you're conceding any type of threat of a return, which is weak. You no longer get to return kicks anymore basically so the punt return is really the only place now that you can make a big special teams play, it's a great chance to flip field position. It's no so much that Leonard is slow, he's just catching the ball and trotting for the fist 2 seconds. Get the ball and go, figure it out on the way. You can't sit there for 2 or 3 seconds and slowly walk or trot trying to figure out where you want to go. You just have to get going, and then figure it out.
Yes, we pretty much are conceding on PR... we tried to find someone on the current roster in the pre-season but with ball security being #1 objective, everyone failed.


So yeah, PR is a spot we need to address... but with our current roster, the smartest thing to do is what we've been doing.
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:08 AM   #14
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I prefer he only return punts if the situation (like tonight) warrants it.

Otherwise keep his sexy ass on offense only.

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Old 09-18-2012, 07:30 AM   #15
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either one seems to be better than the douche returning kickoffs!
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Old 09-18-2012, 07:41 AM   #16
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He can't catch any passes so he might as well return punts

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Old 09-18-2012, 08:49 AM   #17
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It is absolutely stupid IMO to not put a punt return threat out there because of the possibility of an injury. Like folks the past few years with Royal, them not wanting him returning due to the injury risk even though Royal was pretty freakin good returning punts.

Put Decker back there and have an actual threat returning punts. Leonard is slower than molasses back there.
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Old 09-18-2012, 09:00 AM   #18
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IMO that's the best way to utilize him. He won't cut it at WR with his size as a #2, he showed that last year and he is showing it again, seems like more of a slot guy. I would hope Willis can step up and be #2 but it looks like we are stuck with pretty boy the rest of the year.
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Hes better than Leonard but this WR corp cant afford an injury.

Hillman anyone?
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Old 09-18-2012, 09:23 AM   #20
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I dont really care as long as whoever is back there doesnt drop them
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Old 09-18-2012, 09:23 AM   #21
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I have never understood why teams don't throw a 5-6th rounder at a PR specialist who will be a 5th WR.
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This is why i was shocked to see Syd Quan let go. The guy was electric on punt returns and can do much more than Leonhard at half his age. What's Perrish Cox doing these days?

Leonhard is no longer a viable safety but was signed as a veteran presence. We can do better at PR, IMO.
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Yes, we pretty much are conceding on PR... we tried to find someone on the current roster in the pre-season but with ball security being #1 objective, everyone failed.


So yeah, PR is a spot we need to address... but with our current roster, the smartest thing to do is what we've been doing.
Exactly right. With Peyton Manning running the offense it would be stupid not to make securing possession the #1 priority on punt returns.

This is another case of the OM overreacting to everything. You don't risk possessing the ball for the 1 in 200 chance at a huge return. It makes no sense.
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:30 AM   #24
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I just don't get why this team struggles with finding a returner. You can't tell me that there isn't some 5th round draft pick with wheels stashed on some team's practice squad that can return punts.
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I don't buy into the stupid thought Leonard is better at catching punts than Decker as well.
As well as the injury thing.
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