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Old 09-16-2012, 03:28 AM   #1
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Well, his lines in Indy were always "underrated" and maybe in reality they just were not that good. I know in 2010 his line was horrible and he was getting blitzed up the middle constantly.

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Old 09-16-2012, 04:49 AM   #2
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Let's see how they do over the year before we get too carried away.

Looking forward to getting Kuper back in there. Ramirez seems to be doing well enough in his place but obviously Kuper at 100% will be a real upgrade.

There's certainly a lot of talent on our line, the question is whether or not Beadles, Walton and Franklin can realise their potentials. All three were highly rated prospects coming ur of college. If those three can work out it'll be massive for Peyton's chances of winning a Superbowl in Denver.
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Let's see how they do over the year before we get too carried away.

Looking forward to getting Kuper back in there. Ramirez seems to be doing well enough in his place but obviously Kuper at 100% will be a real upgrade.

There's certainly a lot of talent on our line, the question is whether or not Beadles, Walton and Franklin can realise their potentials. All three were highly rated prospects coming ur of college. If those three can work out it'll be massive for Peyton's chances of winning a Superbowl in Denver.
Yeah I agree, I was just surprised when they said that. You do have to admit this OL is young, big and, mobile. They will improve maybe more than any unit as the year goes on.
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Old 09-16-2012, 05:37 AM   #4
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Yeah I agree, I was just surprised when they said that. You do have to admit this OL is young, big and, mobile. They will improve maybe more than any unit as the year goes on.
They also just got their first real off-season of coaching together, and for Beadles, Walton, and Franklin it's their first real off-season of coaching period.

Add a QB who's pre-snap calls give them a major edge and you've got a recipe for the Broncos OL to take a big step forward.
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This is the best Oline and WR's he's ever played with. He's never had a Clady or a D. Thomas. Lets be honest here. If the colts weren't a food stamp franchise Manning would have 4 or 5 rings instead of just 1.
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This is the best Oline and WR's he's ever played with. He's never had a Clady or a D. Thomas. Lets be honest here. If the colts weren't a food stamp franchise Manning would have 4 or 5 rings instead of just 1.
Sorry no

Harrison, Wayne > Thomas, Decker
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Harrison, Wayne > Thomas, Decker
Harrison nd wayne are little girls compared to the size of Decker/Thomas
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Considering how bad his lines were in Indy it was not much of a stretch to say this is his best line

Best running game since Edge

Best defense as well

Overall this is definitely the best team he has been on in a while, if not ever
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Harrison nd aayne are little girls compared to the size of Decker/Thomas
Size does not always equal better.
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Size does not always equal better.
Is that what your wife says to make you feel better?

colts are a food stamp organization. If Manning played in his prime with targets like Thomas and Decker while having lineman like Clady he would've won 4 rings if not more
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Sorry no

Harrison, Wayne > Thomas, Decker
Well you're basing this on the fact that the Colts pair have played almost their entire career with Manning as their QB...and Thomas/Decker have not....

I think that Thomas and Decker will put up similar numbers now that they're playing with Manning....

In Wayne's last season with Manning, he had 111 receptions for 1355 yards and 6 TD's....without Manning his numbers became more pedestrian with 75 for 960 with 4 TD's....on a team that was behind almost every minute of every game last year. Not saying he's not a talented WR...just pointing out that the quality of play from the QB position matters more than people think.

Decker had 22 receptions in 5 games with Orton as his QB...and 22 in 11 games with Tebow....he's on pace for 80 receptions for 864 yards now that his QB is much better than the guys he's had before. Again the quality of play from QB matters...and Peyton plays the QB position at a very high level.
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This is the best Oline and WR's he's ever played with. He's never had a Clady or a D. Thomas. Lets be honest here. If the colts weren't a food stamp franchise Manning would have 4 or 5 rings instead of just 1.
WTF is this ****? Did you just compare two likely Hall of Famers (Harrison and Wayne) to ****ing Eric Decker and Demaryius Thomas? Stop now, you're embarrassing yourself.
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WTF is this ****? Did you just compare two likely Hall of Famers (Harrison and Wayne) to ****ing Eric Decker and Demaryius Thomas? Stop now, you're embarrassing yourself.
As targets for an accurate QB, BIGGER is BETTER. They are nowhere near career totals and won't be when Manning retires but as far as TARGETS, Manning has never had these types.
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Harrison, Wayne > Thomas, Decker
Agreed plus Stokes was in his prime.
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It probably is since Saturday was really only the higher level OL that Manning had with the Colts. The rest were just average guys it seemed. The year the Colts won the Super Bowl, their starting OL was Glenn, Gandy, Saturday, Scott, and Diem. Glenn had his moments here and there and actually that year was his last in the NFL, and other than Saturday, the rest are really nothing to get excited about. The Broncos have better personnel compared to what the Colts had at OL.
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Agreed plus Stokes was in his prime.
If Manning had big targets like Thomas to throw to in his prime he would have more than 1 ring.
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I do believe that this line is the best that Manning has ever had. This board doesn't see the talent...because its used to watching Kyle "sloth" Orton, and Tim "10 second" Tebow.

I like everyone of our guys up front, and then add to that Kuper and Koppen....this line is absolutely terrific. While watching the Bears game the other night, I could not wonder what Cutler's thoughts are about the line he had in Denver vs. the one he has had in Chicago. Night and Day difference.

I happen to believe that Thomas/Decker are equally as talented as Harrision/Wayne...but they have miles to walk before they can be compared equally.
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See errand's post above.. Do you really think harrison and wayne woulda had those numbers with a lesser qb? They were very good, but Peyton made them elite. All you saw was sportscenter and "starvin marvin" runnin down the field for a touchdown but after watching how peyton works its pretty obvious that he was the one responsible for 99% of making that happen. All harrison had to do was run down the field and make a catch on a perfectly thrown ball. Peyton is playing chess out there. He was the colts. He was probably calling plays on defense too when he thought a certain play may indirectly influence the other head coaches thought process. Hes out there playing god damn chess and you want to call Reggie Wayne a hall of famer. Jesus christ. Has Reggie Wayne ever had a single play as impressive as DTs screen TD last week?
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See errand's post above.. Do you really think harrison and wayne woulda had those numbers with a lesser qb? They were very good, but Peyton made them elite. All you saw was sportscenter and "starvin marvin" runnin down the field for a touchdown but after watching how peyton works its pretty obvious that he was the one responsible for 99% of making that happen. All harrison had to do was run down the field and make a catch on a perfectly thrown ball. Peyton is playing chess out there. He was the colts. He was probably calling plays on defense too when he thought a certain play may indirectly influence the other head coaches thought process. Hes out there playing god damn chess and you want to call Reggie Wayne a hall of famer. Jesus christ. Has Reggie Wayne ever had a single play as impressive as DTs screen TD last week?
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Has Reggie Wayne ever had a single play as impressive as DTs screen TD last week?
Your a Bronco fan right? He had several in a playoff game couple years ago against Denver.
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See errand's post above.. Do you really think harrison and wayne woulda had those numbers with a lesser qb? They were very good, but Peyton made them elite. All you saw was sportscenter and "starvin marvin" runnin down the field for a touchdown but after watching how peyton works its pretty obvious that he was the one responsible for 99% of making that happen. All harrison had to do was run down the field and make a catch on a perfectly thrown ball. Peyton is playing chess out there. He was the colts. He was probably calling plays on defense too when he thought a certain play may indirectly influence the other head coaches thought process. Hes out there playing god damn chess and you want to call Reggie Wayne a hall of famer. Jesus christ. Has Reggie Wayne ever had a single play as impressive as DTs screen TD last week?
This. A thousand times over, this. Manning made his receivers.
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Your a Bronco fan right? He had several in a playoff game couple years ago against Denver.
Wayne is nothing without Manning. Wayne was being covered by Dre Bly so that should'nt count as making plays. haha
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WTF is this ****? Did you just compare two likely Hall of Famers (Harrison and Wayne) to ****ing Eric Decker and Demaryius Thomas? Stop now, you're embarrassing yourself.
Your premise that you can't compare our WRs to Harrison and Wayne is accurate.

But there is no ****ing way in hell either are Hall of Fame bound.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Walton replaced by mid-season.
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