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Old 07-02-2013, 12:05 PM   #2401
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Clarkson's not even worth half that.....I feel sorry for the team that signs him to that (hoping for the Pens to see Socal nut over him).
We aren't going to offer any big deals. We are 8 under and need to sign a couple guys.
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:36 PM   #2402
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We aren't going to offer any big deals. We are 8 under and need to sign a couple guys.
It's the Pens, the league allows bends the rules
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Old 07-02-2013, 01:07 PM   #2403
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- so I guess Glendale city council will be voting on giving a boatload of cash and an arena to the stooges trying to buy the Coyotes. Apparently the proposed deal would saddle Glendale with all costs of servicing the debt for building the arena as well as making them pay 15 million a year to the hockey team to cover cost of arena management. The deal would be for 15 years as a guideline but with some sort of one-way opt out after 5 years which would allow the Coyotes to walk away. This structure was suggested as a way to give the team 5 years to establish hockey as a viable sport in Arizona.....

I am guessing the mayor Key Arena in Seattle is cackling gleefully about this.
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- so I guess Glendale city council will be voting on giving a boatload of cash and an arena to the stooges trying to buy the Coyotes. Apparently the proposed deal would saddle Glendale with all costs of servicing the debt for building the arena as well as making them pay 15 million a year to the hockey team to cover cost of arena management. The deal would be for 15 years as a guideline but with some sort of one-way opt out after 5 years which would allow the Coyotes to walk away. This structure was suggested as a way to give the team 5 years to establish hockey as a viable sport in Arizona.....

I am guessing the mayor Key Arena in Seattle is cackling gleefully about this.
There's some shenanigans going on with COG, they amended the deal and we'll see if RSE (Potential Owners) agree with it.

They vote on the amended proposal tonight, and we'll see if RSE goes along with it. I doubt it, then again I am confused with this whole deal, what a cluster****.
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There's some shenanigans going on with COG, they amended the deal and we'll see if RSE (Potential Owners) agree with it.

They vote on the amended proposal tonight, and we'll see if RSE goes along with it. I doubt it, then again I am confused with this whole deal, what a cluster****.
I live in Phoenix...it is a disaster.

The city on Friday decided to include in the deal that they want the same 5 year out clause for the city that RSE has in the deal. The problem is the NHL will not allow that even if the city and RSE did agree to it. So at the moment it looks like they are voting tonight on that deal with the 5 year out clause for the city that the NHL wouldn't even go for. Makes no sense. It will never end.

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Clarkson's not even worth half that.....I feel sorry for the team that signs him to that (hoping for the Pens to see Socal nut over him).
that would be awesome
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I live in Phoenix...it is a disaster.

The city on Friday decided to include in the deal that they want the same 5 year out clause for the city that RSE has in the deal. The problem is the NHL will not allow that even if the city and RSE did agree to it. So at the moment it looks like they are voting tonight on that deal with the 5 year out clause for the city that the NHL wouldn't even go for. Makes no sense. It will never end.

http://www.foxsportsarizona.com/nhl/...23&feedID=3702
I don't understand why Bettman is so set on having hockey in Arizona? they NHL has poured damn near 100 million dollars down the toilet already and the longer this circus goes on the worse it is going to get.
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I live in Phoenix...it is a disaster.

The city on Friday decided to include in the deal that they want the same 5 year out clause for the city that RSE has in the deal. The problem is the NHL will not allow that even if the city and RSE did agree to it. So at the moment it looks like they are voting tonight on that deal with the 5 year out clause for the city that the NHL wouldn't even go for. Makes no sense. It will never end.

http://www.foxsportsarizona.com/nhl/...23&feedID=3702
I believe it will end tonight, like gydenlove said. NHL has dumped millions of dollars into this thing and they are done with it. That's why there is a vote tonight because the NHL gave them a deadline, there will be no extensions and changes to the deal. The COG is voting on a amended deal, that I am not sure RSE will go for.

So my understanding of what could happen tonight is this:

COG doesn't get 4 votes on this, team moves to Seattle.

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COG votes for this, but RSE has a **** fit and throws the deal away. Team moves to Seattle.

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COG votes for this, RSE agrees. Team stays in Glendale for another 5 years. NHL probably won't go for this deal.

I don't see any good scenarios here.
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I believe it will end tonight, like gydenlove said. NHL has dumped millions of dollars into this thing and they are done with it. That's why there is a vote tonight because the NHL gave them a deadline, there will be no extensions and changes to the deal. The COG is voting on a amended deal, that I am not sure RSE will go for.

So my understanding of what could happen tonight is this:

COG doesn't get 4 votes on this, team moves to Seattle.

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COG votes for this, but RSE has a **** fit and throws the deal away. Team moves to Seattle.

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COG votes for this, RSE agrees. Team stays in Glendale for another 5 years. NHL probably won't go for this deal.

I don't see any good scenarios here.
Councilman Sherwood who is in favor of the deal was just on the radio. He said they can make amendments to the deal tonight such as removing the out clause that the NHL won't go for and then they can vote on the deal. He said he is cautiously optimistic it will pass 4-3.

The team has not had stable ownership since they moved into the new arena. Before people make a judgement on if it can work here I would like to see 3-4 years of stable ownership in place.
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Old 07-02-2013, 03:15 PM   #2410
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ugh! i'd love to see the Coyotes stay but if the city is gonna keep dicking them around then let them move to Seattle.
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Letang deal done...

The Pittsburgh Penguins have officially agreed to an eight-year contract extension with defenceman Kris Letang.

The $58-million deal begins with the 2014-15 season and runs through 2021-22.

The contract averages $7.25 million per season.

A nominee for the NHL's Norris Trophy this season, Letang led all NHL defencemen in assists (33) and was tied for the lead in points (38).

The six-foot, 201-pound Montreal native established career highs during the post-season with three goals and 13 assists.

In 385 career games, the 26-year-old Letang has 44 goals and 165 assists.

but i wont laugh to loud because @DarrenDreger just read from his text live on #TSNDrive ..Asked Flyers source "Did you guys get Lecavalier?" Answer:"Yes"

Source says 5 year $23.5 mill for Lecavalier as a Flyer. checking on that per Tim P.

I guess 4.7 per isnt bad for vinny, not sure if he can play goal at this point in his career or not tho.

If i know homer tho thats at a 3 year with full NMC not a 5 year deal
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That's a lot of years,...but the salary is about right.
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Before people make a judgement on if it can work here I would like to see 3-4 years of stable ownership in place.
they've had 15 years, if you cant sort that out in that time, to bad, the jets didnt get 15 years to sort things out, the nordiques didnt, the whalers didnt, the thrashers didnt, enough already just move the team and be done with it.
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That's a lot of years,...but the salary is about right.
Way too many years for a guy that's what, 34 and already not that fast? But there's always teams that will overreach for guys like this. Also got a full no trade/move clause.
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Way too many years for a guy that's what, 34 and already not that fast? But there's always teams that will overreach for guys like this. Also got a full no trade/move clause.
homer doesn't know how to write a contract without a NMC

hes just hoping the deal is long enough to take them to the next lockout, and amnesty buyout period
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Way too many years for a guy that's what, 34 and already not that fast? But there's always teams that will overreach for guys like this. Also got a full no trade/move clause.
The last part is the key. I'm surprised that Homer still gives those away like its candy.
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Source says 5 year $23.5 mill for Lecavalier as a Flyer. checking on that

please lord, never fire Holmgren. it's too good.
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flyers will be better next year. don't they still have about $4M from Pronger's LTIR to spend on a goalie?
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flyers will be better next year. don't they still have about $4M from Pronger's LTIR to spend on a goalie?
they have all 5 from pronger to spend on a goalie, but cant spend it until the season starts, cuz hes not on LTIR until then, and his cap hit eats up the 10% summer overage, with the cap dropping, and everybody having NMC.

I fully expect this move will mean couts and one of mez or coburn gets moved now for a D.

I just really really hope that the rumored tim tomas signing isnt true, I may have to take a year off of hockey

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they have all 5 from pronger to spend on a goalie, but cant spend it until the season starts, cuz hes not on LTIR until then, and his cap hit eats up the 10% summer overage, with the cap dropping, and everybody having NMC.

I fully expect this move will mean couts and one of mez or coburn gets moved now for a D.

I just really really hope that the rumored tim tomas signing isnt true, I may have to take a year off of hockey
Why don't you want him? He is old and had a year off but is still prolly solid.
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Why don't you want him? He is old and had a year off but is still prolly solid.

hes like 40 dood, and the reality is as long as we play the same pond hockey system that you guys play it dont matter who we put in net.
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hes like 40 dood, and the reality is as long as we play the same pond hockey system that you guys play it dont matter who we put in net.
If I had to guess, it would be that he was being sarcastic.
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If I had to guess, it would be that he was being sarcastic.
naw, he still thinks MAF is a good goalie, that pretty well proves he dont know goalies
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