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Old 09-11-2012, 09:31 AM   #1
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I'll be looking at the OL specifically.

Offense First drive:
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Good sound blocking in passing game. Pitt showing different fronts from 3-4, 5-2, to delayed and active blitzes. Ramirez made a great adjustment to a delayed blitz.

Moreno has very poor vision. Good acceleration but ran right into OL instead of looking outside.
Larry Foote sack: Moreno on 3rd and 10 whiffs on his block, allows Manning to get sacked. End of Drive.
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Excellent coverage on first punt.
Note: Todd Haley still looks like a douche on the sidelines.

Defense: First Drive
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Miller/Wolfe disrupt two different run plays resulting for backfield tackles.
Doom got good pressure on 3rd down resulting in punt.
Return: Leonhard doesn’t seem to have any real explosion in his legs. The guy looks a long way away from contributing.

Offense 2nd Drive: Still a conventional offense. Not yet into no-huddle.

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Offense immediately tried to divert pressure from up the middle by running outside and quick pass to DT on the right sidelines.
Fumble on next play by Willis, Steelers still running 6 man front. This is why no huddle with Manning is so effective. Not just for mismatches but to stop stupid plays like running the ball against a stacked front expecting run.
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Doom immediately gets held on the next play. Not called of course.
The Steelers were pretty aware of Denver’s pass rush and showed it by consistently passing out of 6/7 man OL fronts.
Didn’t work on this next drive though as Von brushes aside a FB like he wasn’t there and stuffs the run.
Next 3rd down, Doom is doubled but still moves inside only to be held but forces Ben further back and Wolfe shows great short area burst to close in on the sack. See picture below.
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Old 09-11-2012, 09:33 AM   #2
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Here's that last play with a straight angle with the ref directly looking at Wolfe/Doom being held/Big Ben.

Not called though.
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I know there was one play where I thought Knowshon missed a block that got Manning sacked, but on the replay it showed 2 blitzers from the left side and Knowshon picked up (and stoned) the inside blitzer, just like he should. Manning is responsible for the free man in that case. Don't know if this is the same play you are talking about.

edit: I see you have this play right below

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Old 09-11-2012, 09:50 AM   #4
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It's the 1st and 10 play below:

Offense: 3rd Drive:
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Pinned deep at 2 yard line.
Two McGahee runs out of Jumbo package..
3rd and 6: Good protection, Manning converts with Stockley running a great route. Manning threw the ball before he made the break out of his route. Clady makes a solid block on a DE/DT twist.

1st and 10: Clady completely screws up his protection. Clady doesnít pick up the outside guy, forcing Moreno to do so which leaves one blitzer a free run at Manning for a sack.
2nd and 18: Beadles is late on pulling left, Moreno completely panics when a defender takes an angle at him in the backfield and as usual does nothing.
3rd and 17: Manning seeing a 12th defender running off the field calls an quick snap, refs miss the call and itís a long incompletion as Manning went for it expecting a flag on the D.
End of drive, punt.

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Old 09-11-2012, 09:57 AM   #5
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It's the 1st and 10 play below:

Offense: 3rd Drive:
Manning rolled the protection to the right, that is on Manning. Can't fault Clady for going where he is supposed to go.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:07 AM   #7
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2nd Quarter - Defense 3rd drive:

Steelers (Miller/Starks) take turns holding Doom, Harris, Doom again and pretty much any jersey they can get their hands on. Vickerson/Brooking come in for most of this drive and do well. Refs continue their blindness. Defense does a great job resricting them to just 3.
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Manning rolled the protection to the right, that is on Manning. Can't fault Clady for going where he is supposed to go.
Yes, but only partially correct. OL, Tackles are taught that they still have to keep their eyes open to pressure especially if they have no one to block.

Both Beadles/Walton that their guy doubled which left Clady with no one to block at the line so his job was to scan for pressure on the left which he did eventually but it was too late.
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Offense 4th Drive and start of no huddle.

It's 3rd and 1 and get used to seeing this kind of pass protection. Steelers rush 4 and our 5 man OL does a great job securing their block and Walton is looking effective. Ball comes out in under three seconds for a first down. Here's Walton doing his thing:
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Here's that last play with a straight angle with the ref directly looking at Wolfe/Doom being held/Big Ben.

Not called though.
WTF is Mays doing?

Completely whiffing on a jam and ending up out of position and worthless of course.
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WTF is Mays doing?

Completely whiffing on a jam and ending up out of position and worthless of course.
Think you're way off the mark here.

Clearly a WR opposite him, which means this definitely is NOT a man coverage situation.

I think the most likely deduction of what he's doing is just shuffling in his passing lane along with Ben's eyes.
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1st and 10 the next play.

Steelers don't like the no huddle so they send another two man blitz, this time from the right side. 5 rush with 1 DB on the outside blitz.

They're all picked up excellently and Franklin stones his blitzer because Ramirez doesn't need any help blocking his man. Moreno does his part and it's a deep completion to DT on the left sideline. Again ball out in just under 3 seconds.
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Think you're way off the mark here.

Clearly a WR opposite him, which means this definitely is NOT a man coverage situation.

I think the most likely deduction of what he's doing is just shuffling in his passing lane along with Ben's eyes.
No chance. He's completely off balance and has his arms fully extended in front of him.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:29 AM   #15
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I was going to do my own game analysis but I'll just put mine in here.

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No chance. He's completely off balance and has his arms fully extended in front of him.
Clearly we have different definitions of "fully extended". Regardless, he's clearly not man up on whoever that is.
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Clearly we have different definitions of "fully extended". Regardless, he's clearly not man up on whoever that is.
Being in man coverage has nothing to do with being completely off balance. He has clearly lunged forward in that pic, and to no effect.
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WTF is Mays doing?

Completely whiffing on a jam and ending up out of position and worthless of course.
it looks like mays on any other pass play

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Being in man coverage has nothing to do with being completely off balance. He has clearly lunged forward in that pic, and to no effect.
Still disagree... looks like any lateral shuffle to me.
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Think you're way off the mark here.

Clearly a WR opposite him, which means this definitely is NOT a man coverage situation.

I think the most likely deduction of what he's doing is just shuffling in his passing lane along with Ben's eyes.
I know it is taboo to question your football knowledge but you are completely wrong here. Clearly #20 is the RB Batch who Mays has in man to man coverage. Mays tries to jam him after he comes out of the backfield and whiffs completely. I know you can never admit a mistake but you are wrong here 100 percent. It's man coverage Pitt expected a blitz which Denver didn't and Batch released once he read no blitz and Mays attempted to jam him.
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I'm back, same drive (4th).

Still no huddle a couple of plays later and the Steelers front 7 is going full exotic. Looping LBers, moving DL at the snap to try and confuse the protection. This is a great example of the OL picking up the delayed blitz (Clady) and Willis coming from
around the right to chip the blitzer on the left. Giving 18 enough time for the completion.
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Crucial 3rd and 1 on the 30 yard line, McGahee steers his way to a solid gain and first down from a trap where Beadles pulls to his right for
a good block.

12th play of the drive: 1st goal. Delayed blitz and the Steelers stack the box with 8. Stockley pulls down from his side at the snap and perfectly steers his defender into the mash so that even Moreno can see that cutback and runs it in untouched for a TD.
God I love me some Stokley.
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Defense 4th Drive started at Pitt's 21 yard line:

1st and 10. Woodyard right at the line of scrimmage reads run and does a pretty good job of holding his ground and making the tackle on redman for a minimal gain.

2nd and 8: Doom explodes off the edge going past Starks and has Ben dead to rights only for Starks to grab his pads. Ref is right there but misses it and coverage is solid so Roth dumps it to the RB who makes Mays whiff (easily) for a 8/9 yard gain.

What's worse than one ref missing a hold? Two refs missing it. Take a look below:
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Two plays later Doom and Von combine to almost bring down Ben but he does a great job on 2nd down to stumble over Von's tackle to throw it away. Great combined pass rush.
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Crucial 3rd and 11 coming up.
Ben gets good protection and combines for a long 23 yard pass play. Woodyard/Bailey blow their coverage and Bailey was pissed.
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