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Old 09-01-2012, 06:27 AM   #1
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Default QBs released yesterday who are better than Caleb Hanie

Josh Johnson (San Francisco 49ers)
Adam Weber (Denver Broncos)
Josh McCown (Chicago Bears)
Case Keenum (Houston Texans)
Mike Kafka (Philadelphia Eagles)
Seneca Wallace (Cleveland Browns)
Sage Rosenfels (Minnesota Vikings)
Kellen Clemens (St. Louis Rams)
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Caleb Hanie is horrible -- please don't waste a roster spot on that steaming pile of rotten cabbage. Either roll with two quarterbacks on the roster, or pick up one of the above quarterbacks, please.

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Old 09-01-2012, 07:51 AM   #2
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How about Curtis Painter so Manning is comfortable with his usual clipboard holder
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:54 AM   #3
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Only Weber (headed to the PS) is realistic due to his familiarity with the offense (and Painter to a lesser extent)

If Manning goes down, our season is screwed regardless... we all know that. Pining over backup QBs is silly since we'll salvage what we can of the season with Brock no matter who is "#2" on the depth chart.
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None, if they haven't been through training camp and know the new offense
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Only Weber (headed to the PS) is realistic due to his familiarity with the offense (and Painter to a lesser extent)

If Manning goes down, our season is screwed regardless... we all know that. Pining over backup QBs is silly since we'll salvage what we can of the season with Brock no matter who is "#2" on the depth chart.
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Lol all those guys you listed are terrible. I would take Brian Hoyer over him though ( not listed ).
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Josh Johnson (San Francisco 49ers)
Adam Weber (Denver Broncos)
Josh McCown (Chicago Bears)
Case Keenum (Houston Texans)
Mike Kafka (Philadelphia Eagles)
Seneca Wallace (Cleveland Browns)
Sage Rosenfels (Minnesota Vikings)
Kellen Clemens (St. Louis Rams)
Tom Brandestater (St. Louis Rams)
Curtis Painter (Baltimore Ravens)


An Open Letter to John Elway

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Caleb Hanie is horrible -- please don't waste a roster spot on that steaming pile of rotten cabbage. Either roll with two quarterbacks on the roster, or pick up one of the above quarterbacks, please.

Your biggest fan,

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Weber - never played a meaningful snap in the NFL, completely unknown
McCown - was awful when he started years back, lol
Keenum - seriously? Rookie who hasn't played a meaningful snap in NFL
Kafka - another guy with no meaningful work in the NFL
Brandstater and Painter?

Holy freakin hell, stop worrying about the gosh damn backup QB this year folks. Manning will be healthy all year for us, and then Brock will be the backup guy next year.
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Only Weber (headed to the PS) is realistic due to his familiarity with the offense (and Painter to a lesser extent)

If Manning goes down, our season is screwed regardless... we all know that. Pining over backup QBs is silly since we'll salvage what we can of the season with Brock no matter who is "#2" on the depth chart.
This. There is a lot more that goes into choosing your backup QB than whether he is a great player on the field. The idea and hope is that he never even sees the field, so you also have to take into account his intelligence, his knowledge of the system and his chemistry with the starting veteran and the maturing rookie. We have all seen the kind of poison that can come out of a QB who is resentful of sitting or unable/unwilling to help the others on the team.

Of all the QBs listed above, bringing in any of them when Peyton goes down is going to be the end to the season. It just is, so all you can do is hope he doesn't and then emphasis and select your backup based on what you need from him off the field. If they believe Hanie is the best choice for that, then I'll buy it.
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:40 AM   #11
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Hanie is terrible, but Rev is right. Manning goes down, Osweiler goes in. If not, we'll know he's worse than a lot of Broncos fans already think he is.

Honestly I would prefer getting rid of Hanie and just going with 2 QBs, but I say this every year.

Edit: And seriously? Case ***ing Keenum?
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Hanie is terrible, but Rev is right. Manning goes down, Osweiler goes in. If not, we'll know he's worse than a lot of Broncos fans already think he is.

Honestly I would prefer getting rid of Hanie and just going with 2 QBs, but I say this every year.

Edit: And seriously? Case ***ing Keenum?
Yes -- only because he's better than Caleb mother****ing Hanie.
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Only Weber (headed to the PS) is realistic due to his familiarity with the offense (and Painter to a lesser extent)

If Manning goes down, our season is screwed regardless... we all know that. Pining over backup QBs is silly since we'll salvage what we can of the season with Brock no matter who is "#2" on the depth chart.
Quoted for truth -- but shouldn't a back-up quarterback have some modicum of upside?

What's silly is carrying someone on the roster who will never, ever, ever help us win a game in any way, shape, or form.
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Yes -- only because he's better than Caleb mother****ing Hanie.
...he's not, though.

Let me diagram it for you:

Case Keenum < TJ Yates < John Beck < Kellen Moore < Caleb Hanie < a box of Cracker Jack < $6 hotdogs < gout < Tim Tebow

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...he's not, though.

Let me diagram it for you:

Case Keenum > TJ Yates > John Beck > Kellen Moore > Caleb Hanie > a box of Cracker Jack > $6 hotdogs > gout > Tim Tebow


A box of Cracker Jack is better than Caleb Hanie, IMO.
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A box of Cracker Jack is better than Caleb Hanie, IMO.
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Quoted for truth -- but shouldn't a back-up quarterback have some modicum of upside?

What's silly is carrying someone on the roster who will never, ever, ever help us win a game in any way, shape, or form.
Absolutely. That's why Brock is here. That's literally his sole role... developing his upside.
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Absolutely. That's why Brock is here. That's literally his sole role... developing his upside.
For sure -- and I'm a big athletic supporter of Osweiler's (wait, I think I phrased that wrong). The kid's got a bright future, and we should emulate the Aaron Rodgers model of sitting him for 2-3 years and giving him a Master's Degree in quarterbacking before he enters the job market.

My point is -- if we're going with 3 QBs, why the hell would Hanie be one of them?
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For sure -- and I'm a big athletic supporter of Osweiler's (wait, I think I phrased that wrong). The kid's got a bright future, and we should emulate the Aaron Rodgers model of sitting him for 2-3 years and giving him a Master's Degree in quarterbacking before he enters the job market.

My point is -- if we're going with 3 QBs, why the hell would Hanie be one of them?
The following scenarios:

- Manning's dinged up and will miss a few games but not the season

- In case Manning gets hurt 7-4, 8-3 (that ball-park) deep in that playoff hunt

Basically anytime we just need a bandaid or as an attempt to compete.

If Manning goes down early (knocking wood), we'd probably see Caleb for a game or two, and if he loses, swap to Brock.
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Absolutely. That's why Brock is here. That's literally his sole role... developing his upside.
Obviously over his head.
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Johnson and Wallace are the only ones i'd even sniff at. Hanie is horrible but he's sadly better than most of those guys.
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ExPatFan/BowlenBall is hands down one of the best football posters here (especially NCAA). I think he's just caught up with Caleb's awful preseason and over-valuing Hanie's journeyman-even-as-a-backup role.
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ExPatFan/BowlenBall is hands down one of the best football posters here (especially NCAA). I think he's just caught up with Caleb's awful preseason and over-valuing Hanie's journeyman-even-as-a-backup role.
Thanks for the update on BB can't say I'veever noticed his posts.
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ExPatFan/BowlenBall is hands down one of the best football posters here (especially NCAA). I think he's just caught up with Caleb's awful preseason and over-valuing Hanie's journeyman-even-as-a-backup role.
Thanks for the compliment -- but Hanie is an objectively horrible quarterback on the pro level. Was completely flummoxed when the Broncos signed him, and perplexed when he made the roster at the expense of possible contributors like Jeremiah Johnson and Jeremy Beal (who was stashed on IR).

Although I've been a Broncos fan for 25+ years, I have absolutely zero ties to the state of Colorado -- could Hanie's signing/retention (and the inexplicable support from a few of you on this board) be a nod to his roots at Colorado State U.?

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