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Old 08-30-2012, 11:22 PM   #1
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That dude better make the roster because he isn't clearing waivers.

4 tackles, two for loss, one sack, one pass defensed.

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Old 08-30-2012, 11:25 PM   #2
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That dude better make the roster because he isn't clearing waivers.

4 tackles, two for loss, one sack, one pass defensed.

He will, no worries on that from me. I wouldn't mind seeing the FO looking into seeing what they could get from trading Ayers, whether it be a late pick or maybe a vet LB for depth.
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:31 PM   #3
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:33 PM   #4
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That dude better make the roster because he isn't clearing waivers.

4 tackles, two for loss, one sack, one pass defensed.

My jaw would drop to the floor in complete disbelief if they seriously tried to sneak the guy through waivers at this point. He'll make the roster.
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:34 PM   #5
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When was the last time a rookie draft pick of ours didn't make the team? Not baiting just curious.
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:43 PM   #6
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When was the last time a rookie draft pick of ours didn't make the team? Not baiting just curious.
Maurice Clarett comes to mind.

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Old 08-30-2012, 11:50 PM   #7
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Khan, you hit one out of the park on this call from day 1 of training camp
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:51 PM   #8
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Malik Jackson had the team made before this game.
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Old 08-31-2012, 12:00 AM   #9
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I Posted this on 04/29/12

It seems to me Denver is much more concerned about rushing the passer than stopping the run. Wolfe is very much a pass rusher that will play DE on running downs and then move to DT on passing downs. I believe Denver's Malik Jackson who played a lot of DT in college, even though he weighs 285lbs will also be looked at DT on passing downs. So on passing downs Denver's starting DL will could look like this Ayers, Wolfe, Jackson, Dumerville. This strategy of moving DEs to DTs on passing downs is what the N.Y. Giants do and they have one of the best pass rushes in the NFL.

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Trevathan also had a hell of a game. If there were doubts about him they have been erased
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Old 08-31-2012, 12:11 AM   #11
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Trevathan also had a hell of a game. If there were doubts about him they have been erased
Indeed. He honestly looks like he could turn into a very good WLB in the NFL.
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Old 08-31-2012, 12:16 AM   #12
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When was the last time a rookie draft pick of ours didn't make the team? Not baiting just curious.
Jeremy Beal last year, technically (although he was signed to the practice squad)

2010: Jammie Kerlew (7th round)
2009: Blake Schlueter (7th round)
2008: Carlton Powell (5th round)
2007: None
2006: Greg Eslinger (6th round)
2005: Maurice Clarett (3rd round)
2004: Jeremy LeSeuer (3rd round); Josh Sewell (6th round); Matt Mauck (7th round); Brandon Miree (7th round)

The all-time winner (or loser) was 1988 1st round DT Ted Gregory, who was cut in preseason of his rookie year. Ouch!

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Moreno.

I rather see Moreno and Johnson over Ball.
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Old 08-31-2012, 01:50 AM   #14
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Indeed. He honestly looks like he could turn into a very good WLB in the NFL.
His instincts are great. I just wonder if he could put on a few pounds and be an every down player for the team, instead of a fill-in type guy
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Old 08-31-2012, 03:55 AM   #15
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Jeremy Beal last year, technically (although he was signed to the practice squad)

2010: Jammie Kerlew (7th round)
2009: Blake Schlueter (7th round)
2008: Carlton Powell (5th round)
2007: None
2006: Greg Eslinger (6th round)
2005: Maurice Clarett (3rd round)
2004: Jeremy LeSeuer (3rd round); Josh Sewell (6th round); Matt Mauck (7th round); Brandon Miree (7th round)

The all-time winner (or loser) was 1988 1st round DT Ted Gregory, who was cut in preseason of his rookie year. Ouch!
Wrong. He was traded to the Saints for Sean Knight, who while also a bust was New Orleans 1st round pick the year before. He only lasted one year with the Saints, so while a bust, was not cut his rookie year.

Didnt Malik Jackson also force two fumbles against the 49ers? This guy has made the team for sure.
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Trevathan also had a hell of a game. If there were doubts about him they have been erased
Decent, but it'll prob be a while before he gets over being bull-dozed for a few more yards by Beanie
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:28 AM   #18
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How was he not more productive in college? He's constantly in the defensive backfield.

Whatever. Good pick, as was the Trevathan one. Looks like Bolden can play too.
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:53 AM   #19
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Old 08-31-2012, 06:14 AM   #20
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His instincts are great. I just wonder if he could put on a few pounds and be an every down player for the team, instead of a fill-in type guy
He's probably already bigger than Ian Gold
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Old 08-31-2012, 06:37 AM   #21
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Jackson is a really interesting player. Got moved around and played out of position in college, then completely changed his physical dimensions before the combine. He was ~270 in college and now he's at 290, yet his quickness and burst don't appear to be hindered. Crazy thing is he came out of high school at 6'5", 212 by Rivals, was at 250 when he left USC, so putting on weight rapidly without being slowed too much is a hallmark of his development over the last few years.

Pretty interesting to see what he could turn into. The inherent skepticism people take when looking at late round picks is generally with good reason, but late round picks don't normally alter their makeup nearly as much as Jackson has been able to. Scouts always talk about guys having the frame to add weight but you rarely ever see it actually happen (see Jarvis Moss). The fact that Jackson has been able to do it consistently without hindering his play is really damn interesting.

The real question for him going forward is this: Do you see if he can add another 10-15 pounds and become a full time DT, or do you keep him at 290 and use him as a hybrid, all across the DL, type? Same question we need to answer about Wolfe, honestly.
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Jackson is a really interesting player. Got moved around and played out of position in college, then completely changed his physical dimensions before the combine. He was ~270 in college and now he's at 290, yet his quickness and burst don't appear to be hindered. Crazy thing is he came out of high school at 6'5", 212 by Rivals, was at 250 when he left USC, so putting on weight rapidly without being slowed too much is a hallmark of his development over the last few years.

Pretty interesting to see what he could turn into. The inherent skepticism people take when looking at late round picks is generally with good reason, but late round picks don't normally alter their makeup nearly as much as Jackson has been able to. Scouts always talk about guys having the frame to add weight but you rarely ever see it actually happen (see Jarvis Moss). The fact that Jackson has been able to do it consistently without hindering his play is really damn interesting.

The real question for him going forward is this: Do you see if he can add another 10-15 pounds and become a full time DT, or do you keep him at 290 and use him as a hybrid, all across the DL, type? Same question we need to answer about Wolfe, honestly.
We have JDR. He stays.
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Jackson is a really interesting player. Got moved around and played out of position in college, then completely changed his physical dimensions before the combine. He was ~270 in college and now he's at 290, yet his quickness and burst don't appear to be hindered. Crazy thing is he came out of high school at 6'5", 212 by Rivals, was at 250 when he left USC, so putting on weight rapidly without being slowed too much is a hallmark of his development over the last few years.

Pretty interesting to see what he could turn into. The inherent skepticism people take when looking at late round picks is generally with good reason, but late round picks don't normally alter their makeup nearly as much as Jackson has been able to. Scouts always talk about guys having the frame to add weight but you rarely ever see it actually happen (see Jarvis Moss). The fact that Jackson has been able to do it consistently without hindering his play is really damn interesting.

The real question for him going forward is this: Do you see if he can add another 10-15 pounds and become a full time DT, or do you keep him at 290 and use him as a hybrid, all across the DL, type? Same question we need to answer about Wolfe, honestly.
Hybrids are the future, son!

I like hybrids for both of them. Can be stout outside against the run in running situations and kick ass inside on passing downs.

Frankly, I'd rather see more of Jackson than Ayers who has the pass rushing moves of an icebox.
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Old 08-31-2012, 07:11 AM   #24
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I think it was Mediator who was pumping up Malik in the OM Mock Draft and raved about him. Sounds like he was right. If Wolfe and Malik can pan out, that'd be great.
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Maurice Clarett comes to mind.

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Blake Schlueter (2009), Mike Mohamed, Jeremy Beal from last year off the top of my head.
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