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View Poll Results: What's your take on Knowshon?
I am a "type 1" maner 15 11.54%
I am a "type 2" maner 83 63.85%
I am a "type 3" maner 32 24.62%
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:30 AM   #1
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Discuss. I believe there are three types of people on the mane.

The first thinks that Slowshon isn't worth the football he fumbles. They think that despite his less-than-$900,000 salary this year, he should be cut in favor of a more promising back such as Jeremiah Johnson. He can't contribute on special teams and he has no hope. Might as well cut him, there is no optimism here. Slowshon will never be more than an injury prone 3rd down back. Cut. Our. Losses.

The second thinks that the jury is still out on Slowshon, even though they have a suspicion he will never be anything more than a backup. They believe he should be kept on the roster at all costs primarily due to his low salary and a few hopeful bursts of talent every few snaps. They remember that, just plays before his season ending injury last year, he actually shook off and then hurdled a defender en route to a surprisingly large gain. Last week, they saw his brutal stiff arm against a 49er rookie, and hope to keep him around. They think he is worth $900,000.

The third, frankly, has moved on. DGAF. If he makes the team, "good for him." If he gets cut, "Whatever, the bust sucked anyway."

I find myself partial to the 2nd option. I think he's too cheap to let go, and while I am a realist, and understand he is a long shot to be anything substantial, we should use him as a change of pace, 100 carry type guy. Good check down option for '12, even if takes touches away from Jeremiah.

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Old 08-29-2012, 07:34 AM   #2
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I see no reasonto. ut him if he's the 2nd or 3rd best back on the team. He is what he is. Play'em a little and get him in space so his lack of vision less of a problem. That means throw him the ball and find ways to get said space.
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:51 AM   #3
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He provides a good depth RB. If you keep 4, he is better than the alternative. I think he can prove more useful then Ball.
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:52 AM   #4
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I think you have to keep him as the 3rd down back.

If Hillman had been healthy through camp and gotten some more reps with the first team unit then I could see Knowshon being expendable for sure, but there's a question mark there.

He's been a huge disappointment given we spent the twelfth overall pick on him, but he still has some ability as a runner and has good hands and pass protects well.

I won't lose any sleep if we ditch him all the same.
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:53 AM   #5
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He should be traded to the Lions for a draft pick or LB depth.
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:59 AM   #6
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If he can't contribute on special teams, get.him.out. I don't believe that he is the future of the Broncos running game. Put me in the Type 1 category...
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:13 AM   #7
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Still of the opinion that when healthy, he has the opportunity to be GREAT in space. It seems, imo, that a LOT of his carries start with line protection problems (people in the backfield as soon as he touches the ball, poor blocking, etc), and I think that having a QB who can make adjustments on the fly will really help his style of running.
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:30 AM   #8
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What about that ill advised swing pass that left him to have to break away from 2 defenders behind the line of scrimmage, and some how turned it into a first down. If Hillman had done that OMG....The whole orangemane would be freaking out about how great he is. Fact is, he's averaged over 10 YPR over his career, and not many RBs in the NFL can claim that.
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:34 AM   #9
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What about that ill advised swing pass that left him to have to break away from 2 defenders behind the line of scrimmage, and some how turned it into a first down. If Hillman had done that OMG....The whole orangemane would be freaking out about how great he is. Fact is, he's averaged over 10 YPR over his career, and not many RBs in the NFL can claim that.
I don't disagree entirely, but you don't spend a #12 pick on a guy that can pick up blitzes and perform well with swing passes

eventually he has to, you know...run consistently as well

he isn't just awful, but he's a major disappointment whether it's fair to say or not
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:34 AM   #10
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A backup who can't stay healthy and doesn't play special teams. Drives drunk with a license plate describing his drunken state. Definitely worth a roster spot.
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:36 AM   #11
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I don't disagree entirely, but you don't spend a #12 pick on a guy that can pick up blitzes and perform well with swing passes

eventually he has to, you know...run consistently as well

he isn't just awful, but he's a major disappointment whether it's fair to say or not
He loves the guy let him bask in the glory. Moreno has been a big underachiever and I'm ready to move on. His upside is he is cheap and we might as well roll with him give him his couple catches and carries then when he gets hurt IR him then cut him.
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You can find better backs on the waiver wire most likely. He just looks so slow I don't get why they drafted him. Rbs should blow you away with talent to get into the first round.
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the fun part will be having this exact discussion again next year
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:48 AM   #14
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Moreno is a decent backup RB. Good pass catcher, decent blocker, and average runner.

You're not going to find that on the waiver wire. The real question is if we cut Moreno do we have anyone better or equivalent to replace him? I don't see it in Jeremiah Johnson, Fanin is injured, and the rest were training camp fodder.

Every year going back a decade we've seen injuries at the RB position so do we really want to be in a situation where Lance Ball is the starting RB if McGahee misses time?

As much as I'm underwhelmed by Moreno, I would start him over Ball.
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:55 AM   #16
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#3 for me. Just don't give a damn about him anymore. Keep him, cut him, whatever. The end result will be about the same, not much help to this offense.
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Type 2 for me.

I don't think Moreno has the physical abilities to become a feature back in the NFL. Add to that his idiotic off field Sauced incident and injury history and I think if we had quality RB depth at all that he would be gone.

That being said, we don't have quality depth and as such Moreno should make the team based on his ability to catch the ball out of the backfield and that he is pretty decent in protection. Hillman though talented isn't ready to get significant touches in a game. Ball is the type of grinder/special teamer that you need on a roster, but not a guy you want as a 1A or 1B RB option. As as mentioned earlier everybody else is camp fodder.
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:58 AM   #18
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I've been a fan of Knowshon since he was at Georgia. I think he can excel this year in this offense. No sense in cutting him.
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:03 AM   #19
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I've been a fan of Knowshon since he was at Georgia. I think he can excel this year in this offense. No sense in cutting him.
I think he can excel also. But he's definitely not the type of back that can play better than his OL. The interior of the OL really has been a mess and combined with him getting injured too often has really hurt him.

This is pretty much Moreno's final chance though. Hillman was specifically drafted to replace his skillset.
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Well, he's better than Ball.
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:08 AM   #21
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There is absolutely no reason to get rid of him this season. He is ideal for this type of offense if we use him in space, and he's excellent at picking up the blitz on 3rd downs. He has earned a roster spot, like it or not.

He will be on this team.
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:13 AM   #22
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I am not sure I would say he has earned a spot, I think he will get one because we have no better options.
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:15 AM   #23
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I think we need the depth.

Plus, he's better than Lance Ball. Not by much, but he is better.
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:25 AM   #24
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A backup who can't stay healthy and doesn't play special teams. Drives drunk with a license plate describing his drunken state. Definitely worth a roster spot.
As opposed to his competition for the #3 spot who is a mediocre special teamer, can't break any tackles, fumbles regularly, and is literally worse than Moreno at everything.

And those two (Ball and Moreno) are head and shoulders above the other guys we brought in to compete for the 3rd RB job.

Still think we should move Moreno to slot WR long term though.
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:41 AM   #25
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Keep him, this league is tough on running backs and you can never have enough of them. Yes he's under-performed but I still think he can be a valuable contributor to this team.
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