Is Russell Wilson really that good? - The Orange Mane

KCStud · 08-21-2012, 10:46 AM

Or is Matt Flynn that bad?

Wilson is starting over Flynn on Friday night in KC in the 3rd preseason game, per Schefter.

You guys just saw him. Is he really worth the hype he's getting?

It's pretty cool to see Russell mock the haters who said he wouldn't be worth anything because he isn't 6 feet tall.

errand · 08-21-2012, 10:50 AM

We'll see....one good half of preseason football does not a career make..

TheElusiveKyleOrton · 08-21-2012, 10:53 AM

He looked pretty damn good, and if he'd been 6'3", he would have been a first rounder. Tons of talent, smarts, good arm, reads defenses well, and is extremely mobile.

Tombstone RJ · 08-21-2012, 10:54 AM

He's like a more mobil Drew Brees. He sure made the Broncos defense look silly. That being said, he made some amazing plays. He was all but sacked and he'd throw up the ball for like a 30 yard completion.

Now, can he do this all the time? I don't know. However, he sure seems like he's got scary good potential.

bronco militia · 08-21-2012, 10:56 AM

he was smooth as silk against the broncos 2nd team....I think the Broncos blitzed on almost every play in the 2nd half.

crush17 · 08-21-2012, 10:58 AM

He's going to be a good one, I think.

Dedhed · 08-21-2012, 11:01 AM

People need to relax. Basing career projections on 30 minutes of football is not wise.

Dedhed · 08-21-2012, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

He's like a more mobil Drew Brees.

Case in point.

Lestat · 08-21-2012, 11:06 AM

far too early to tell, if early impressions meant everything Manning would have been a so-so QB after his rookie seasons, Favre would have been a 3rd stringer and Kurt Warner would have been playing in the Arena League into perpetuity.

he looks like he'll be a definite factor in the QB discussion for the Hawks and could develop into a very nice QB.
but it's still only the preseason and he's still not played a full meaningful game, much less a full season.

Requiem · 08-21-2012, 11:08 AM

He is just a playmaker. I am definitely rooting for him to succeed in the NFL!

RhymesayersDU · 08-21-2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Requiem

He is just a playmaker. I am definitely rooting for him to succeed in the NFL!

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Tombstone RJ · 08-21-2012, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dedhed

People need to relax. Basing career projections on 30 minutes of football is not wise.

correct me if I'm wrong here, but this is a football fan site message board, right?

case in point.

gyldenlove · 08-21-2012, 11:17 AM

Honestly, he did not look that good to me. He was holding the ball too long and he didn't have enough zip on his passes to get it done against an NFL defense. Had it been Russell out there against our 1st team instead of Flynn it wouldn't have changed much.

Garcia Bronco · 08-21-2012, 11:20 AM

He was playing or 2nd and 3rd string, but he did look good even when we brought 5 or 6. That's not vanilla defense. Matt Flynn looked good too.

WolfpackGuy · 08-21-2012, 11:30 AM

CBF1 · 08-21-2012, 11:34 AM

Is Wilson that good or is our 2nd and 3rd teams that bad

Personally I hope he is that good, would hate to think our scrubs suck that bad.

houghtam · 08-21-2012, 11:35 AM

He's good.

Too soon to tell if he'll be the real deal at the NFL level, but people forget that he'll be 24 before the end of the season, has four years experience as a starter for two different marquee programs in college, and played 100 games as a professional baseball player.

He's smart, athletic, and has the tools you need to be a success. I think he's as good as advertised.

hookemhess · 08-21-2012, 11:38 AM

He's looked pretty crafty back there. Obviously they want to see him against 1's. I'm personally rooting for the guy.

Archie · 08-21-2012, 11:40 AM

That was my number 1 biggest takeaway from the game. Russell Wilson was head and shoulders above Matt Flynn. Granted he played against the 2nd + stringers, but he also played with 2nd+ stringers.

However, Russell was accurate in his throws, had command of the offense, scrambled very effectively and directed traffic while was doing it. It was clear to me after watching him that he would be the starting QB within a matter of weeks.

Action · 08-21-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gyldenlove

Honestly, he did not look that good to me. He was holding the ball too long and he didn't have enough zip on his passes to get it done against an NFL defense. Had it been Russell out there against our 1st team instead of Flynn it wouldn't have changed much.

Out of all aspects of his game you think he doesn't have the arm strength? So Philip Rivers is not an indication of anything... correct?

And you do realize Drew Brees doesn't exactly have a rocket arm.

His ability to evade the sack is enough to warrant something above of "he did not look that good to me."

You also realize we brought heavy bltizes in bulk throughout the 2nd half?

Not sure why there are so many clown armchair GM on forums...

Ronnie Tsunami · 08-21-2012, 12:06 PM

If he showed me ANYTHING, it was phenomenal pocket poise. Generally, the highly touted rookies boast cannon arms, blazing speed or leadership, but almost never pocket presence.

Sure, Russell does have a bit of all (not much of an arm), but his forte is pocket presence and accuracy, and he proved it with that game. That is SUCH an anomaly as a rookie quarterback, and I think that's why this guy deserves a bit of attention.

BroncoBen · 08-21-2012, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie

That was my number 1 biggest takeaway from the game. Russell Wilson was head and shoulders above Matt Flynn. Granted he played against the 2nd + stringers, but he also played with 2nd+ stringers.

However, Russell was accurate in his throws, had command of the offense, scrambled very effectively and directed traffic while was doing it. It was clear to me after watching him that he would be the starting QB within a matter of weeks.

Russell was one of the QBs I was hoping the Broncos would draft in the later rounds, and yes he is that good. Granted a lot can change going up against #1 defenses in the NFL, and this week he will get that test going against the Chiefs starting defense.

Makes you wonder what direction the FO would have gone if the Manning wasn't signed.

Would they have gone after a Wilson over Osweiler, you can see the difference in the QBs .. not that Osweiler is not going to be a good QB .. Wilson right now can start right now.

razorwire77 · 08-21-2012, 12:10 PM

Wilson looks really good to me. Kid was a stud as a Badger. Size scares off teams. A lot of times the NFL seems to prefer a p***y with prototypical size to a guy that is a little short that can actually play. And Wilson certainly seems like he can play at this level.

Agamemnon · 08-21-2012, 12:11 PM

Flynn was terrible last game. Looks like Kolb part II to me. Wilson was very impressive against backups where no real game-planning was involved, but he's still a rookie. If he's the starter from the beginning of the season he will almost certainly struggle. I do think he has the potential to overcome his height though, so in the long-term Seattle may have really scored by drafting him.

lolcopter · 08-21-2012, 12:12 PM

He shows good poise and improvisation which is half the battle

Given that the only legitimate knock against the guy is his height, I can see him becoming successful in this league. Wouldn't mind if he was on our roster fwiw

I also don't think flynn was that horrible, as the gameplan was obviously to get TO involved which did not happen. However Flynn has yet to show that he can move that offense down the field so I wouldn't be surprised to hear Wilson chants should things not pick up for flynn

08-21-2012, 10:53 AM	#3
TheElusiveKyleOrton www.dailydickpunch.com @RMoneyBadger Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Steamboat Springs Posts: 9,777 Adopt-a-Bronco: "Debo" Franklin	He looked pretty damn good, and if he'd been 6'3", he would have been a first rounder. Tons of talent, smarts, good arm, reads defenses well, and is extremely mobile. __________________ Nobody puts Jay-bee in the corner.

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Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	He was playing or 2nd and 3rd string, but he did look good even when we brought 5 or 6. That's not vanilla defense. Matt Flynn looked good too. Last edited by Garcia Bronco; 08-21-2012 at 11:31 AM..

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WolfpackGuy Call me, "Maybe" Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Delaware Posts: 5,676	Yes

08-21-2012, 12:12 PM	#25
lolcopter Fame of Ringer Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,837 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	He shows good poise and improvisation which is half the battle Given that the only legitimate knock against the guy is his height, I can see him becoming successful in this league. Wouldn't mind if he was on our roster fwiw I also don't think flynn was that horrible, as the gameplan was obviously to get TO involved which did not happen. However Flynn has yet to show that he can move that offense down the field so I wouldn't be surprised to hear Wilson chants should things not pick up for flynn Last edited by lolcopter; 08-21-2012 at 12:14 PM..

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08-21-2012, 10:46 AM	#1
KCStud Ring of Famer AmeriStanzi! Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,019 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Is Russell Wilson really that good? Or is Matt Flynn that bad? Wilson is starting over Flynn on Friday night in KC in the 3rd preseason game, per Schefter. You guys just saw him. Is he really worth the hype he's getting? It's pretty cool to see Russell mock the haters who said he wouldn't be worth anything because he isn't 6 feet tall.

08-21-2012, 10:50 AM	#2
errand Ring of Famer Forgot more than you'll ever know Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Western NC mountains Posts: 15,070	We'll see....one good half of preseason football does not a career make..

08-21-2012, 10:54 AM	#4
Tombstone RJ Ring of Famer Old School Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the Tetons! Posts: 19,313 Adopt-a-Bronco: WorrellWilliams	He's like a more mobil Drew Brees. He sure made the Broncos defense look silly. That being said, he made some amazing plays. He was all but sacked and he'd throw up the ball for like a 30 yard completion. Now, can he do this all the time? I don't know. However, he sure seems like he's got scary good potential.

08-21-2012, 10:56 AM	#5
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,591	he was smooth as silk against the broncos 2nd team....I think the Broncos blitzed on almost every play in the 2nd half.

08-21-2012, 10:58 AM	#6
crush17 orange & blue Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 2,665 Adopt-a-Bronco: DT88	He's going to be a good one, I think.

08-21-2012, 11:01 AM	#7
Dedhed Ring of Famer Fare thee well Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 9,730 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis	People need to relax. Basing career projections on 30 minutes of football is not wise.

08-21-2012, 11:06 AM	#9
Lestat Oreo Lucian Rockefeller The New Age Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 5,171	far too early to tell, if early impressions meant everything Manning would have been a so-so QB after his rookie seasons, Favre would have been a 3rd stringer and Kurt Warner would have been playing in the Arena League into perpetuity. he looks like he'll be a definite factor in the QB discussion for the Hawks and could develop into a very nice QB. but it's still only the preseason and he's still not played a full meaningful game, much less a full season.

08-21-2012, 11:08 AM	#10
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,612 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	He is just a playmaker. I am definitely rooting for him to succeed in the NFL!

08-21-2012, 11:17 AM	#13
gyldenlove Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London, ON Posts: 10,036 Adopt-a-Bronco: Spencer Larsen	Honestly, he did not look that good to me. He was holding the ball too long and he didn't have enough zip on his passes to get it done against an NFL defense. Had it been Russell out there against our 1st team instead of Flynn it wouldn't have changed much.

08-21-2012, 11:34 AM	#16
CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	Is Wilson that good or is our 2nd and 3rd teams that bad Personally I hope he is that good, would hate to think our scrubs suck that bad.

08-21-2012, 11:35 AM	#17
houghtam WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSION MethWolfeAlliance Member #11001001 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Lansing, MI Posts: 5,034 Adopt-a-Bronco: Demon Eagles	He's good. Too soon to tell if he'll be the real deal at the NFL level, but people forget that he'll be 24 before the end of the season, has four years experience as a starter for two different marquee programs in college, and played 100 games as a professional baseball player. He's smart, athletic, and has the tools you need to be a success. I think he's as good as advertised.

08-21-2012, 11:38 AM	#18
hookemhess Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Austin Posts: 950 Adopt-a-Bronco: Blake Gideon	He's looked pretty crafty back there. Obviously they want to see him against 1's. I'm personally rooting for the guy.

08-21-2012, 11:40 AM	#19
Archie R Gang Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 1,151 Adopt-a-Bronco: Keith Bishop	That was my number 1 biggest takeaway from the game. Russell Wilson was head and shoulders above Matt Flynn. Granted he played against the 2nd + stringers, but he also played with 2nd+ stringers. However, Russell was accurate in his throws, had command of the offense, scrambled very effectively and directed traffic while was doing it. It was clear to me after watching him that he would be the starting QB within a matter of weeks.

08-21-2012, 12:06 PM	#21
Ronnie Tsunami Pro Bowler Future Bronco Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 541 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ronnie Hillman	If he showed me ANYTHING, it was phenomenal pocket poise. Generally, the highly touted rookies boast cannon arms, blazing speed or leadership, but almost never pocket presence. Sure, Russell does have a bit of all (not much of an arm), but his forte is pocket presence and accuracy, and he proved it with that game. That is SUCH an anomaly as a rookie quarterback, and I think that's why this guy deserves a bit of attention.

08-21-2012, 12:10 PM	#23
razorwire77 Tapenade Swagga Splotchy Headed Assassin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 3,267 Adopt-a-Bronco: Flash Thomas	Wilson looks really good to me. Kid was a stud as a Badger. Size scares off teams. A lot of times the NFL seems to prefer a p***y with prototypical size to a guy that is a little short that can actually play. And Wilson certainly seems like he can play at this level.

08-21-2012, 12:11 PM	#24
Agamemnon Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 10,465 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Flynn was terrible last game. Looks like Kolb part II to me. Wilson was very impressive against backups where no real game-planning was involved, but he's still a rookie. If he's the starter from the beginning of the season he will almost certainly struggle. I do think he has the potential to overcome his height though, so in the long-term Seattle may have really scored by drafting him.