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Old 08-11-2012, 09:40 PM   #76
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You do realize that SpamChowdah is Boob's your Information Minister aka the chefs version of Muhammed Saeed.





A fish rots from the head down, when the organization got caught cheating the teams owner paid the half a million dollar fine to reinstate the head coach. As opposed to disciplining the perpetrator that forever tarnished the franchises legacy.




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Old 08-11-2012, 09:52 PM   #77
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Yes there were some cap irregularities but that was not on Shanahan like the poster claimed.
Again...i never claimed anything, nor did I call Mike a cheat...I said Broncos were "accused" of salary cap shenanigans
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:53 PM   #78
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None of your reasons warrant calling Shanny a cheat.

Ok...then who was this aimed at?
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Old 08-11-2012, 10:02 PM   #79
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Ok...then who was this aimed at?

Someone called Shanny a cheat.


You gave reasons why that might be true


I shot down your reasons

but I never accused you of calling Shanny a cheat.

Read the post again, you have misinterpreted it.
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you know teams that outscore their opponents have won 100% of those games
wow perceptive aren't you the problem was they were outscored because their D could not shut anyone down..

so scoring a lot is good IF your out scoring everyone.. Which they did not..
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Old 08-12-2012, 12:09 AM   #81
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every team manipulates the injury list. It's a running joke among all us fans

most teams cut block not to mention it is legal

that was between Bowlen and Elway. The only reason we lost a 3rd rd pic was because of all the wining al davis did.

None of your reasons warrant calling Shanny a cheat.
then there was that quarter million dollar fine..

mikey cheated plain and simple..

God only knows what else he cheated at but was not caught..
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every team manipulates the injury list. It's a running joke among all us fans

most teams cut block not to mention it is legal

that was between Bowlen and Elway. The only reason we lost a 3rd rd pic was because of all the wining al davis did.

None of your reasons warrant calling Shanny a cheat.
then there was that quarter million dollar fine..

mikey cheated plain and simple..

God only knows what else he cheated at but was not caught..
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That's what happens when you try to learn Defense on the job like Shanahan did, all he needed was a really good Defensive Coordinator (like Nolan, or Del Rio), and a good GM (like Elway). McDaniels drove the Broncos to their worst record in history (4-12) and the 2nd overall pick in the draft.

Shanahan Off./Def. starters still on the Broncos: 5 (Bailey, Williams, Kuper, Clady, Dumervil)

Shanahan Off./Def. players starting on other teams: 5 (Kern, Cutler, Marshall, Wiegmann (ret.), Pears)

McDaniels Off./Def. starters still on the Broncos: 6 (Decker, Thomas, Beadles, Walton, Hunter, Mays)

McDaniels Off./Def. players starting on other teams: 0

McDaniels scoring Offenses, and red-zone Offenses were far worse.

Out of McDaniels 5 first round draft picks (in 2 years), 4 do not start, or are no longer on the team.

None of McDaniels 10 draft picks in 2009 are starters.



According to PFF, Walton is the worst starting Center in the NFL, and Beadles is the 4th worst starting Guard in the NFL. This is after a year of being coached by Dave Magazu, one of the best OL coaches in the NFL, and two full years of starting. Prompting the Broncos to draft another Center (Blake), and speculation of replacing Beadles in the starting line-up.

If it was up to McDaniels, Kyle Orton would still be the starter.
as I said 8 of the 11 starters on defense were not playing in the NFL or starters on any other team,
So we had to rebuild that part of the team from the ground up..
ON O not much there worth keeping either although they did try to make BM, and TS into team players..


Beadles and Walton have not had coaching worth a crap since they got into the NFL.. Last year Mazu did come on board but then we also had a QB change mid year. Since neither of them have missed a games since turning pro I suspect the John has confidence in them or would have used a top pick to replace one or more of them..

yet neither of them have NOT started a game since being drafted..since we have NO IDEA what the starting lineups are yet.. just perhaps Ayers will be the starter come the season opener..

AS for Orton Pretty sure he would have been starting TEBOW this year..

FWIW do you think John would have kept cutlet, BM and TS for the team last year had they still been there?

Knowing that cutlet was a punching bag for Rivers and the bolts..

Sorry but cutlet and company had to go, there would not have been enough money to resign all of them Doom, Kuper and clady..

Any way to tired to worry about it now it is all moot since Josh did teh right thing cleaning all of mikeys FUBARS out..
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:33 AM   #84
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there is a reason a hard a ss like coughlin beat a "genius" like belichek. belichek couldnt cheat. what a coincidence the pats havent won the big one since they got caught cheating. harder to win the SB when you cant tape the other teams practices.
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:37 AM   #85
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and as a bronco fan and as much as i hate the raiders, they got screwed. "tuck rule" my butt
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FWIW do you think John would have kept cutlet, BM and TS for the team last year had they still been there?

Knowing that cutlet was a punching bag for Rivers and the bolts..

Sorry but cutlet and company had to go, there would not have been enough money to resign all of them Doom, Kuper and clady..
Cutler is a very interesting dilemma. No, I don't believe Elway would have gotten rid of Cutler. Therefore, we never would have gotten Manning. I guess everything depends on if you believe Cutler could have gotten us to a SB or not.

I would say no...

Manning has attracted Caldwell, Tamme, Dreessen, Porter, Adams, Florence, Brooking, and Leonhard. Hopefully we'll get more help next year in FA, as well. Cutler hasn't attracted jack sh*t to Chicago, except his old buddies. If he was a good leader, he would have attracted better OL FA's by now. He did get to the NFC Championship game, but that might be as far as they go...time will tell.

Good point, although I hate McDaniels, and acknowledge him as the worst Coach/GM in the history of the Broncos...in a way, it had to happen in order for us to get where we are today.

Plus, I like Von Miller. I think Von and Wolfe are leaders that the Defense needed to be able to beat the Patriots. We don't draft Von if we aren't the 2nd worst team in the NFL in 2010. Sometimes, to reach the top, you have to through the valley first.
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Old 08-12-2012, 03:44 AM   #88
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lmagine this. You are attracted to women, Iike you are now (emotionally and sexually), but they do not exist. They existed a long time ago, and no one knows what they looked like (They have a pretty good idea from the fossils, however), but they do not exist anymore. That means, not only do you know there will never be any possibility of you having sex with one, but there's not even a possibility of you ever seeing one in real life. Everyone else, however, except for a very few, are not attracted to women, they are attracted to something else entirely. So in other words, you will never find any porn anywhere on the internet, only non-sexual pictures of women. Everyone you have told about your attraction to women think it's disgusting. To relieve yourself, you get off on the non-sexual pictures of women, knowing it will never get any better.

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Old 08-12-2012, 06:06 AM   #89
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I also forgot to mention that before the season had even ended, the Pats some how were able to hire McD onto the team in the middle of the playoffs. How is that even possible??
Because there was no rule prohibiting it. This has since been changed.
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I have Always liked Belichick the coach and defended him as a coach. The man has some brilliant ideas and even better recruited the talent that can execute it. His genius is getting the right players to take away the strength of the other team on defense. On offense, he has also seen the decline of the safety as an opportunity. He is attacking the middle of the field with a tiny route genius he stole from miami in a brillaint trade (Welker) and drafts heavily early on the OL, DL, and got his two mismatch TE's in one draft.

The reasons not to like him have all been stated as well. He is a nightmare on the Public relations front. He has allowed football to control him, and not controlled himself. His Life off the field is sketchy and he will not only cross the line on the rules, he will cross it willingly and exploit that inside information and think its OK. If this was war, no problem. However, its not war. His failures as a HC in CLE lead him to a massive life makeover in which he put the team and winning before the rules and now is in win at all costs and take no prisoners mentality.

And, I have read just about every published work on the man. As a MHC and therapist, his life story is fascinating to me. The reverence he gets for winning in NE totally overlooks his misgivings in life. Sometimes, being good at what you do pays even though you use despicable means to achieve it. That is why I never became a Lawyer. I could not stomache the pure deception of the truth and justice every day just to win cases or outcomes. I could not sleep at night knowing what lengths I would have to go to simply to win cases.

Belichick is a fantastic coach, and definintely HOF worthy if he can keep himself from getting caught cheating again. The more he coaches though, the less I believe he will make it without getting caught again IMHO. It's not in his desperate nature to win at all costs.
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Old 08-12-2012, 06:29 AM   #91
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The Stupidest Man in the NFL is Bill Belichick. He may have had better days back when he was a more successful cheater. But now, he's just stupid. -And the man who holds the record for paying the largest fine of any coach in NFL history.

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Old 08-12-2012, 06:33 AM   #92
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[QUOTE=ClamChowdah;3637186]People need to start respecting the greatest coach ever, the guy has 5 rings and 5 Superbowl appearances in 10 years.

I think its jealousy, you?


There is absolutely nothing to like about your team, except maybe your owner. Why he didn't take Bill Belichick down after Spygate is still a mystery to me. No success on any level excuses Bill Belichicks behavior during that debacle. I still cringe thinking about Robert Kraft having to stand up in front of all the owners and apologize for his franchise while Bill Belichick hid in a corner somewhere. Truly pathetic and if there is any truth to karma, the Pats will never lift another Lombardi while Bill Belichick is still in town !
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The owner is a borderline child molester.

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YO moron it was the lack of defenses that cost Peyton chances..

It WAS PEYTON that was costing Y'all 20% + of your salary cap each year..

If they had an extra $10 mil or so to spend on D perhaps you would have won more title chances.. but some one thought all it took was out scoring the the other team instead of playing some defense from time to time..

some people's kids..
Only an unknowledgeable moron like yourself would talk about a different segment in time, post spy gate. Part of the reason Peyton mastered the audible at the line is because that spygate D lined up perfectly to stop Indys offense.
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People need to start respecting the greatest coach ever, the guy has 5 rings and 5 Superbowl appearances in 10 years.

I think its jealousy, you?

How many since the cheating scandal?
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The owner is a borderline child molester.

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and as a bronco fan and as much as i hate the raiders, they got screwed. "tuck rule" my butt
It's okay - how much crap have they gotten away with?
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Only an unknowledgeable moron like yourself would talk about a different segment in time, post spy gate. Part of the reason Peyton mastered the audible at the line is because that spygate D lined up perfectly to stop Indys offense.

That is an interesting tidbit
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I have no problem with him at all. Are the Pats as "great" as they used to be... No is my answer.
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BB just doesn't get it anymore does he
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