Is Curtis Martin really better than TD ? - The Orange Mane

Jetmeck · 08-04-2012, 09:00 PM

Longevity is the only thing he had on TD.............and that shouldn't be the difference between getting in the hall. IF a guy just has a couple of great years and then gets lazy and fades away so be it but dammit you can't help it when your numb nutz qb throws a int and you own offensive lineman blows your knee out trying to tackle the guy.

IF Martin got in TD should too................had it not been for injury TD would have been the greatest.

maven · 08-04-2012, 09:02 PM

I cannot remember anything he did amazing.

sirhcyennek81 · 08-04-2012, 09:05 PM

No.

Jetmeck · 08-04-2012, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by maven

I cannot remember anything he did amazing.

steady but I do not remeber anyone being scared of him

houghtam · 08-04-2012, 09:23 PM

Same.

I don't think TD belongs in the Hall, but...if he doesn't...Curtis Martin DEFINITELY doesn't.

Martin = Emmitt Smith - winning Super Bowls

SoCalBronco · 08-04-2012, 09:27 PM

Just a bunch of decent years. Hall of good worthy....not hall of very good and sure as hell not hof. Weak selection. Td was far superior

DBroncos4life · 08-04-2012, 09:28 PM

The 4th all time rusher is HOF worthy.

NFLBRONCO · 08-04-2012, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by houghtam

Same.

I don't think TD belongs in the Hall, but...if he doesn't...Curtis Martin DEFINITELY doesn't.

Martin = Emmitt Smith - winning Super Bowls

I think the HOF is screwed up honestly. Yes TD had a short career but, he flat out dominated and struck fear in everyone during that time to me that IS HOF worthy. If TD played in a bigger market he'd be a shoe in for HOF.

Bacchus · 08-04-2012, 09:52 PM

I would say there was never a year before TD's injury he was better than TD. They were both rookies and TD was leading in rushing yards, dominating really, then TD had to miss the last three games due to a shoulder injury, I believe. Martin ended up getting the rookie of the year.

NO WAY shoudl Martin or Bettis be in there ahead of Daivs.

Doggcow · 08-04-2012, 09:53 PM

Of course. He played in New York right?

Blueflame · 08-04-2012, 09:57 PM

Question: In any year of his playing career, was Curtis Martin ever named league MVP? Or Super Bowl MVP? TD was.

houghtam · 08-04-2012, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NFLBRONCO

I think the HOF is screwed up honestly. Yes TD had a short career but, he flat out dominated and struck fear in everyone during that time to me that IS HOF worthy. If TD played in a bigger market he'd be a shoe in for HOF.

Dante Hall struck fear in people every time he touched the ball for 3 or 4 years.

The Hall should have about 1/4 of the members it currently has.

Bettis doesn't deserve it. Emmitt doesn't deserve it. Martin doesn't deserve it. Davis doesn't deserve it.

Bacchus · 08-04-2012, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueflame

Question: In any year of his playing career, was Curtis Martin ever named league MVP? Or Super Bowl MVP? TD was.

Martin was a guy that averaged 4.2 YPC and never accomplised anything besides staying injury free.

Blueflame · 08-04-2012, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bacchus

Martin was a guy that averaged 4.2 YPC and never accomplised anything besides staying injury free.

Prior to his ACL tear in '99, TD was the most-feared/respected RB in the NFL.

Bacchus · 08-04-2012, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueflame

Prior to his ACL tear in '99, TD was the most-feared/respected RB in the NFL.

After Barry Sanders He was. If was not for Sanders Davis would have led the NFL in rushing 3 times.

NFLBRONCO · 08-04-2012, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueflame

Prior to his ACL tear in '99, TD was the most-feared/respected RB in the NFL.

This

He should be HOF player short career or not. I bet alot of RB's would have died to do what TD did in their careers.

Jason in LA · 08-04-2012, 10:22 PM

Martin was very good for a really long time, but never great. TD was great. As great as any other running back ever. It was for a short period of time, but at the height of his career he was as great as anybody.

Jason in LA · 08-04-2012, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bacchus

After Barry Sanders He was. If was not for Sanders Davis would have led the NFL in rushing 3 times.

Sanders was probably more feared, but TD was more effective. TD's style was better for winning. Sanders could have a few runs that were the greatest ever, but it didn't always lead to points, and it didn't always lead to wins. His style was beatable, TD's wasn't.

BroncoLifer · 08-04-2012, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by houghtam

Dante Hall struck fear in people every time he touched the ball for 3 or 4 years.

The Hall should have about 1/4 of the members it currently has.

Bettis doesn't deserve it. Emmitt doesn't deserve it. Martin doesn't deserve it. Davis doesn't deserve it.

This. Guys like Martin getting in just devalues the HOF. And it's only going to get worse with the mandatory minimum of five new members each year.

Cito Pelon · 08-04-2012, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

The 4th all time rusher is HOF worthy.

Yup.

KCStud · 08-04-2012, 10:42 PM

Curtis Martin doesn't deserve to be in the HOF and neither does Terrell Davis.

The HOF is for the best of the best, not really good players.

Hell Priest Holmes was a really good player for a handful of years too, but no way he's a HOF.

Cito Pelon · 08-04-2012, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoLifer

This. Guys like Martin getting in just devalues the HOF. And it's only going to get worse with the mandatory minimum of five new members each year.

Wait a sec.

Martin played 11 years, had 17,430 all purpose yards, 100 total TD's, 14,101 yds rushing, 90 TD's rushing, played 166 games out of 168 possible and he DEVALUES the HOF

??

Jesus ****ing lord, where do we get people like you from?

houghtam · 08-04-2012, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cito Pelon

Wait a sec.

Martin played 11 years, had 17,430 all purpose yards, 100 total TD's, 14,101 yds rushing, 90 TD's rushing, played 166 games out of 168 possible and he DEVALUES the HOF

??

Jesus ****ing lord, where do we get people like you from?

Well if 1280 yards and 8 TDs per year really does it for you, then sure. Put Martin in the Hall.

Cito Pelon · 08-04-2012, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bacchus

Martin was a guy that averaged 4.2 YPC and never accomplised anything besides staying injury free.

What? Since when does 17,430 yards from scrimmage and 100 total TD's amount to "never accomplished anything"? There's some dumb people on this board, and you're right up there.

Blueflame · 08-04-2012, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KCStud

Curtis Martin doesn't deserve to be in the HOF and neither does Terrell Davis.

The HOF is for the best of the best, not really good players.

Hell Priest Holmes was a really good player for a handful of years too, but no way he's a HOF.

If TD doesn't deserve to be in the HOF then neither does Gale Sayers.

Was Holmes league MVP? (we already know he wasn't SB MVP 'cause he would have been in diapers the last time KC was in the SB).

On edit: no, Holmes wasn't in diapers the last time KC was in the SB; he hadn't been born yet.

08-04-2012, 09:00 PM	#1
Jetmeck Not a Chief's board Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 5,383	Is Curtis Martin really better than TD ? Longevity is the only thing he had on TD.............and that shouldn't be the difference between getting in the hall. IF a guy just has a couple of great years and then gets lazy and fades away so be it but dammit you can't help it when your numb nutz qb throws a int and you own offensive lineman blows your knee out trying to tackle the guy. IF Martin got in TD should too................had it not been for injury TD would have been the greatest.

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SoCalBronco Nixonite Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 33,298 Adopt-a-Bronco: D.J. Williams	Just a bunch of decent years. Hall of good worthy....not hall of very good and sure as hell not hof. Weak selection. Td was far superior __________________ ITS A PLAYOFF HOCKEY NIGHT IN PITTSBURGH!

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08-04-2012, 09:02 PM	#2
maven ★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆ Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,745	I cannot remember anything he did amazing.

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sirhcyennek81 Yes...swooping is bad... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florence, Colorado Posts: 20,673 Adopt-a-Bronco: All of them.	No.

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houghtam WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSION MethWolfeAlliance Member #11001001 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Lansing, MI Posts: 5,016 Adopt-a-Bronco: Demon Eagles	Same. I don't think TD belongs in the Hall, but...if he doesn't...Curtis Martin DEFINITELY doesn't. Martin = Emmitt Smith - winning Super Bowls

08-04-2012, 09:28 PM	#7
DBroncos4life Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU Why yes, that is Bacon Bacon. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The wrong side of right. Posts: 26,547	The 4th all time rusher is HOF worthy.

08-04-2012, 09:52 PM	#9
Bacchus I'm buying Natasha Romanoff Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 5,203 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I would say there was never a year before TD's injury he was better than TD. They were both rookies and TD was leading in rushing yards, dominating really, then TD had to miss the last three games due to a shoulder injury, I believe. Martin ended up getting the rookie of the year. NO WAY shoudl Martin or Bettis be in there ahead of Daivs.

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Doggcow Rebel Laughs At Unbelievers Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 8,298 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Of course. He played in New York right?

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Blueflame Miss Congeniality Welcome to Peyton's Place Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: in my cups... lol Posts: 33,037 Adopt-a-Bronco: Randy Gradishar	Question: In any year of his playing career, was Curtis Martin ever named league MVP? Or Super Bowl MVP? TD was.

08-04-2012, 10:22 PM	#17
Jason in LA Gimmie that rep fool! Speaking of Butts & Boob Mojo Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LA Posts: 12,252	Martin was very good for a really long time, but never great. TD was great. As great as any other running back ever. It was for a short period of time, but at the height of his career he was as great as anybody.

08-04-2012, 10:42 PM	#21
KCStud Ring of Famer AmeriStanzi! Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,017 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Curtis Martin doesn't deserve to be in the HOF and neither does Terrell Davis. The HOF is for the best of the best, not really good players. Hell Priest Holmes was a really good player for a handful of years too, but no way he's a HOF.