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Old 07-30-2012, 12:35 PM   #1
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Default Peter King: Manning a chain-mover, but not explosive

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Old 07-30-2012, 12:36 PM   #2
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A chain mover is all we need, if the end results are a touchdown. Orton was a chain mover, until he got to the red zone. Then, he fell apart...
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:48 PM   #3
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I agree with King. Even in 2010 I could tell Manning had lost some of his explosiveness. He was a chain mover than and I feel he is the same now. Hopefully he can hit the big plays when they present themselves.
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A chain mover is all we need, if the end results are a touchdown. Orton was a chain mover, until he got to the red zone. Then, he fell apart...
Agree... as long as the chains keep moving it shouldn't matter. Plus... we know Peyton always finds a way to put it in!
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unless Roc Alexander is on the field, Manning has been a chain mover for most of his career

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Old 07-30-2012, 12:53 PM   #6
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From that same SI report from Peter King.... "He's throwing the ball fine, and by that I mean if you watch a complete practice, you don't find yourself wondering why Manning is babying his throws, because he's not. He's just not ripping them. He's as accurate as ever, and it may be that this will carry him in 2012. As one former coach of Manning's told me over the weekend (not Tony Dungy), "If I were a Denver fan, I wouldn't be worried about Peyton physically, because if he can't zing the ball the way he used to, he'll figure out a way. He always does.''

I guess what doesn't resonate with me is; I don't recall Peyton Manning ever 'ripping' the ball.. I always remember him being very accurate, but not having the strongest arm.
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:54 PM   #7
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when the hell ever was Manning "explosive" in his passes? What a bunch of bs.
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:55 PM   #8
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Manning has always "taken the field in chunks" and tried to move the chains first and foremost. Big plays have never been the mainstay of Manning's game. Peter King is a moron.
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Elway was a chain mover for us in 97' and 98'. We'd have huge 8-12 play drives all the time. Rich Ganon was a chain mover for the chiefs and Raiders during their post season run's. The tale of the tape is can you stay on Or get off the field on 3rd and 5 or less. If you can convert as a QB, you're gonna be tough to stop as an offense. That's has Manning has always struck me.
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:04 PM   #10
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When you move the chains, why would you need to be explosive? 3rd and 20s don't happen when chains are being moved. Tom Brady lives off 3 second dumps to his TEs.
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:10 PM   #11
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OH LOOK, SOMEBODY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT A BRONCO THAT WASN'T 100% COMPLIMNTARY. HE MUST BE WRONG AND/OR STUPID.


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Tom brady and the patriots have been doing this for years. 3rd down is where manning will earn his money. Convert the third downs, we will have longer drives, more points, more rest for defense. The important thing though is getting in the endzone. Manning is a master at finding a way to stuff in there. Cant settle for fgs all game. Big difference in 6-0 and 14-0.
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When you move the chains, why would you need to be explosive? 3rd and 20s don't happen when chains are being moved. Tom Brady lives off 3 second dumps to his TEs.
Patriots "managed" their way to 3 sb wins, with a lot of help from their kicker.

I bet Peyton has never had this many "players" around him. Ever. The colts basically relied on him to drive the bus, without a lot of help. Just my 2 cents, and I AM a homer (for those who might be wondering)
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Manning has never been a Brett Frave, Marino or ELway type but if you watch the 2010 season Manning was throwing the underneath stuff even more than usual. I think there probably is a noticiable decrease in arm strength from the 2006 season but like all great QBs, including Elway in '97-'98, he will adapt his game.
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:37 PM   #17
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/the orange mane
More like "Oh look someone said Manning will be different and then described Manning as he always has been. He is definitely wrong and/or stupid."
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From that same SI report from Peter King.... "He's throwing the ball fine, and by that I mean if you watch a complete practice, you don't find yourself wondering why Manning is babying his throws, because he's not. He's just not ripping them. He's as accurate as ever, and it may be that this will carry him in 2012. As one former coach of Manning's told me over the weekend (not Tony Dungy), "If I were a Denver fan, I wouldn't be worried about Peyton physically, because if he can't zing the ball the way he used to, he'll figure out a way. He always does.''

I guess what doesn't resonate with me is; I don't recall Peyton Manning ever 'ripping' the ball.. I always remember him being very accurate, but not having the strongest arm.
I'll go another step. Manning throws a lot of "wobblers" also. The thing that always pissed me off was that even if it was a poor spiral, it always landed in the perfect spot and was very catchable by the receiver. His placement and timing are what sets him apart - always has.
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Seriously, how can a QB be "explosive"?
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In related news... Peter king took enough of a breath between alternately cramming his piehole full of nachos and Tom Brady to comment on something else.
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Seriously, how can a QB be "explosive"?
Refried beans. Lots of em. This also works especially well for offensive linemen.
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Tebow?
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In related news... Peter king took enough of a breath between alternately cramming his piehole full of nachos and Tom Brady to comment on something else.
I like Peter King. He used to look like Norm Peterson but he has lost a lot of weight.

I will admit "Explosive" is the wrong word to use but I think he could not think of ONE word to mean "Peyton's arm is weaker" so he said "explosive" as in not as explosive. Not his best work but I would think most people do not disagree with him on it.
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Your first mistake was paying attention to anything King says. If he happens to get one right, well, broken clock time.
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