Breaking down the AFC West

[oubronco]

The Oakland Raiders announced they have traded speedy wide receiver Louis Murphy to the Carolina Panthers in exchange for an undisclosed draft pick.

Can't fix stupid

[Kaylore]

Louis Murphy is gone? Will this set back the arrival of the soon-to-be 2009 Patriots-level proliferation of offense from the Raiders?

[oubronco]

Raider9175

"the raiders offense will be top 3 now"

[KCStud]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

again, you've been hanged by your own argument. You are the biggest tard I've ever seen on the Omane and believe me, there's been many an idiot post on this site.

Again and again, once someone proves you completely wrong, you change the parameters.

Tombstone, just sit this play out. You aren't good enough.

This board is awesome! The Giants are overrated because they won the Super Bowl!!!!!

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by KCStud

Tombstone, just sit this play out. You aren't good enough.

This board is awesome! The Giants are overrated because they won the Super Bowl!!!!!

You're correct, I can't keep up with your stupidity at all. Congrats, you win the idiot of the year award.

[400HZ]

Originally Posted by KCStud

Tombstone, just sit this play out. You aren't good enough.

This board is awesome! The Giants are overrated because they won the Super Bowl!!!!!

I can't wait too see Dontari Poe out there with Tyson Jackson and Glenn Dorsey. Three of the biggest busts in recent memory all getting bowled over at once. It will be unforgettable.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Uh, Jackson and Dorsey were two of the top ranked DEs against the run last year.

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

Uh, Jackson and Dorsey were two of the top ranked DEs against the run last year.

And together they accumulated 1 sack, 3 QB hits, and 6 hurries on 469 pass rushing snaps.

[Bacillus Anthracis]

Originally Posted by oubronco

The Oakland Raiders announced they have traded speedy wide receiver Louis Murphy to the Carolina Panthers in exchange for an undisclosed draft pick.

Can't fix stupid

Murphy was likely going to get cut in camp so they got what they could for him. A 7th round draft pick is pretty low for the guy but maybe the plan is to trade up to the 6th or whatever. It also saves Oakland money against the cap.

The on the field impact for this year from this deal is nil.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

And together they accumulated 1 sack, 3 QB hits, and 6 hurries on 469 pass rushing snaps.

They are lousy pass rushers and come out of the game on third down.

[DBroncos4life]

Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

They are lousy pass rushers and come out of the game on third down.

Don't most teams find solid pass rushers in the top of the first round and wait to find run stoppers later?

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

They are lousy pass rushers and come out of the game on third down.

Someone should tell Crennel. They're spending almost half their snaps rushing the passer.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Someone should tell Crennel. They're spending almost half their snaps rushing the passer.

Sometimes defenses pass on first and second down, dumbass.

They come out of the game in passing situations.

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

Sometimes defenses pass on first and second down, dumbass.

They come out of the game in passing situations.

Oh, do they, sometimes? I guess I've never seen a defense pass.

It's too bad that they're both so horrible at half their job. Maybe they shouldn't be out there in the base package, but only in a run defense package.

[Irish Stout]

Originally Posted by KCStud

The Giants are overrated because they won the Super Bowl!!!!!

Not one person said this. Not one. If anything, the opposite has been argued by people here... oh except for you. You've been implying that 8-8 teams in the regular season who don't beat any good teams are actually ****ty teams.

Why do you keep putting yourself up on the pedestal of group moron?

[Irish Stout]

Kaylore - thanks for the write up! I always appreciate the efforts of original thought and the effort to actually put it up for all of the world to read. I enjoyed it.

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by Irish Stout

Kaylore - thanks for the write up! I always appreciate the efforts of original thought and the effort to actually put it up for all of the world to read. I enjoyed it.

Honestly, we hadn't talked about football in awhile. It thought it would be a good change of pace for the board in the dead of June/July when there is no football to talk about. We had all four teams fans weighing in which was awesome and the thread went 12 pages. I also wanted to think out my predictions. The schedule all teams play this year is so bad, we could see another finish like last year with three teams all within a game of each other. I think it won't be a three way tie like last year, but I felt it would be close again.

[KCStud]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Oh, do they, sometimes? I guess I've never seen a defense pass.

It's too bad that they're both so horrible at half their job. Maybe they shouldn't be out there in the base package, but only in a run defense package.

No it's not half their job. Their first priority is stop the run. Second is to occupy blockers to the OLB's can get sacks.

At least Jackson and Dorsey don't completely suck like Robert Ayers. He can't rush the passer or stop the run.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Oh, do they, sometimes? I guess I've never seen a defense pass.

It's too bad that they're both so horrible at half their job. Maybe they shouldn't be out there in the base package, but only in a run defense package.

We'll, they're good against the run, our defense was good against the run, and we had a good defense, two years in a row now.

I'm not sure what the **** your point is. They are good at their jobs. They are not really asked to be pass rushers.

[Raider9175]

Originally Posted by oubronco

The Oakland Raiders announced they have traded speedy wide receiver Louis Murphy to the Carolina Panthers in exchange for an undisclosed draft pick.

Can't fix stupid

Reggie Mckenzie brought in some nice looking Kids at WR. That position is one of the strongest on the roster.

Top six wr will look like this. 1. D Moore 2 DHB 3 Jacoby Ford 4 Juron Criner( watch this kid) 5 Rod Streater 6 will be a battle between 6'3 210 Ed Mcgee , 6'2 200 Duke Calhoun and Derek carrier 6'4 238 .

[boltaneer]

Originally Posted by Raider9175

Reggie Mckenzie brought in some nice looking Kids at WR. That position is one of the strongest on the roster.

Top six wr will look like this. 1. D Moore 2 DHB 3 Jacoby Ford 4 Juron Criner( watch this kid) 5 Rod Streater 6 will be a battle between 6'3 210 Ed Mcgee , 6'2 200 Duke Calhoun and Derek carrier 6'4 238 .

Potential is not a strength. If what you claim is true, that WR is one of the strongest positions on the roster, your roster is in big trouble.

[Raider9175]

Originally Posted by oubronco

Raider9175

"the raiders offense will be top 3 now"

There was a good chance he wasn't going to make the roster anyway.(better to get something for him now, than lose him for nothing next season)

The Big addition to the offense will be Juron Criner 6'3 224 . He brings something totally different than their other top three Wr possess. ( big target with great hands who know how to use his body. Will be lethal in the redzone. (where Raiders struggled.


Raiders love Rod Streater 6'3 200 very reliable hands and has 4.37 speed.

The last wr spot I'm rooting for Derek Criner 6'4 238 4.51. I think the sky the limit for this guy. If Horse tooth (Elway) smart he should be watching which Raider wr eventually get cut. He could upgrade his wr corps.

[Raider9175]

Originally Posted by boltaneer

Potential is not a strength. If what you claim is true, that WR is one of the strongest positions on the roster, your roster is in big trouble.

We shall see< Smiling> . You will find out the hard way what Ron Wolfe knows.(recommended Mckenzie to the Raiders) Reggie MCkenzie knows who can play and who can't. He did a great job adding even more talent to an emerging Wr corps. That position is loaded.

[errand]

Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

Sometimes defenses pass on first and second down, dumbass.

They come out of the game in passing situations.

Well given most teams throw on 3rd downs, and some teams throw on 1st and 2nd down, then shouldn't they sit on the first three downs?

[vancejohnson82]

oh wow....a Raiders fan talking about a high ceiling and speed....

shocking