what's up with mitt?

[peacepipe]

is it just me or is romney a really weak cannidate. it seems whenever he has the opportunity to rise,he shoots himself in the foot. I remember in the primaries,they said he would come out of it abit weakened but I'm thinking he was pretty weak to begin with. he's showing some serious flaws. I thought before the primaries & even going into them that romney was probably the best out of the bunch. Now I almost feel sorry for him. he's not quick on his feet with any issue. I watched a part of his speech today where he states,and i'm paraphrasing, We can't go back to those liberals policies of way back when. All i thought was thanks for opening the door and making the previous administrations even more relevant. now romney can't b**** about bringing up GWB cause if you want to look way back when lets look not that far back when GWB was president.
anyway what's everyones' honest opinion,if you can give an honest opinion on romney

[peacepipe]

ironic,that this thread has a romney ad in it.

[Rohirrim]

The thing that gets me is Romney's continuing assertion that we need a businessman to run America as if it were a business. Really? The reason our government exists, as far as the Founders were concerned was "...to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity." I've never seen a corporation founded on those principles. Any corporation I've ever seen is founded to make money for its shareholders, and that's pretty much it.

Romney was a corporate cannibal. He made money for his investors by sucking the liquidity out of businesses, firing their workers, using them as debt carriers, taking the profit, and getting out. Hell, maybe that's what he wants to do with America? Maybe he's got China all lined up as a buyer?

[JCMElway]

I do align myself with more liberal politics, but just looking at this with a non-leaning eye, Romney is a super weak candidate. His only advantage is that he has money.

Same thing happened to the Dems with Kerry in '04. GWB was ripe for an ass-kicking right out of office, and Kerry was lackkuster and inspired nobody.

The Presedential election this year is a slam dunk. However, the Dems could easily lose the Senate and we could have a GOP controlled House and Senate.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by JCMElway

I do align myself with more liberal politics, but just looking at this with a non-leaning eye, Romney is a super weak candidate. His only advantage is that he has money.

Same thing happened to the Dems with Kerry in '04. GWB was ripe for an ass-kicking right out of office, and Kerry was lackkuster and inspired nobody.

The Presedential election this year is a slam dunk. However, the Dems could easily lose the Senate and we could have a GOP controlled House and Senate.

Romney actually reminds me of Kerry - same kind of patrician aloofness and inability to connect with the average American.

I don't know about the Senate. That guy they put up in Indiana is a real extremist.

[mhgaffney]

Mitt has a foreign policy "brain trust" that includes neocons like John Bolton and Robert Kaplan, and hard line Zionists like Bibi Netanyahu, the PM of another state (Israel).

If elected -- the Mormon president will initiate Armageddon -- and that will be all she wrote.

[TonyR]

JPMorgan certainly didn't do Romney any favors...


Mitt Romney says he wants to talk about the economy in this presidential campaign, including his call to repeal the Dodd-Frank financial regulation law. JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM)’s $2 billion trading loss in risky transactions isn’t the sort of conversation he had in mind.

So far, presumptive Republican nominee Romney has said little about the transaction that is roiling Wall Street and Washington, prompting an inquiry by the Federal Reserve, a call for a congressional investigation and a demand by Elizabeth Warren, a Democratic Senate candidate in Massachusetts, that JPMorgan Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon resign from the board of the New York Federal Reserve.

“Any time you have a development that suggests businesses take unnecessary and unwise risks, you give ammunition to Democrats and cause problems for the Republican narrative,” said Stu Rothenberg, editor of the nonpartisan Rothenberg Political Report. “Romney will have to deal with it.”

Romney, co-founder of private-equity firm Bain Capital LLC, has spotlighted his vow to repeal the Dodd-Frank law that aims to strengthen financial regulations, calling it one of several overly burdensome laws backed by President Barack Obama that costs jobs. Romney hasn’t directly commented on the JP Morgan losses since Dimon disclosed them on May 10; he ignored a reporter’s shouted question about the matter at a May 11 rally in Charlotte, North Carolina.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...ent-truth.html

[Traveler]

Originally Posted by peacepipe

is it just me or is romney a really weak cannidate. it seems whenever he has the opportunity to rise,he shoots himself in the foot. I remember in the primaries,they said he would come out of it abit weakened but I'm thinking he was pretty weak to begin with. he's showing some serious flaws. I thought before the primaries & even going into them that romney was probably the best out of the bunch. Now I almost feel sorry for him. he's not quick on his feet with any issue. I watched a part of his speech today where he states,and i'm paraphrasing, We can't go back to those liberals policies of way back when. All i thought was thanks for opening the door and making the previous administrations even more relevant. now romney can't b**** about bringing up GWB cause if you want to look way back when lets look not that far back when GWB was president.
anyway what's everyones' honest opinion,if you can give an honest opinion on romney

While still early, I'm amazed that Romney is still polling well nationally. With all of his gaffes, you would think President Obama would be steam rolling this guy.

Speaks volumes about the American electorate IMO?

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by Traveler

While still early, I'm amazed that Romney is still polling well nationally. With all of his gaffes, you would think President Obama would be steam rolling this guy.

Speaks volumes about the American electorate IMO?

very true, but as people get to know who romney is,I believe obama will take a bigger lead. one thing I noticed during the rep primary was that the more people got to know romney the more they disliked him. that will likely be true for the general.

[Garcia Bronco]

The problem that romney has is he has to go further right than he wants to win teh entire GOP base. He's essentially no different politcally than Obama.

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

The problem that romney has is he has to go further right than he wants to win teh entire GOP base. He's essentially no different politcally than Obama.

very big difference between the two on this. obama spent 2/3rds of his 1st term throwing the left under the bus. to quote one obama admin official "liberals are ****ing retarded"~rahm emanuel who was obamas right hand man.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by peacepipe

very big difference between the two on this. obama spent 2/3rds of his 1st term throwing the left under the bus. to quote one obama admin official "liberals are ****ing retarded"~rahm emanuel who was obamas right hand man.

He also said that progressives, "Could go **** themselves."

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by Traveler

While still early, I'm amazed that Romney is still polling well nationally. With all of his gaffes, you would think President Obama would be steam rolling this guy.

Speaks volumes about the American electorate IMO?

What gaffes? Really just the old dog story, the media looking for some juice with an old bullying story, and then Obama hitting on Bain liquidating some steel companies etc etc. The economy just not doing well and last election Obama said it would be all better by now. His stimulus just didnt help much. Like many economists said simply not enough shovel ready projects to make it work. Then he did a bunch in tax cuts, and to states to keep public unions from laying off and to pay unemployment. That just left not enough for the infrastructure projects that would have helped more.

How can you not see why people leery considering what Obama said unemployment would be etc etc? Remember Clinton beating G Bush sr on the economy. It was way better then the economy we have now lol. And the famous saying, its the economy stupid!

Funny because Bush SR lost after his big 91 gulf war victory. Obama may have thought Bin Ladens death was a huge boost, but its the economy stupid.

[Arkie]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Romney actually reminds me of Kerry - same kind of patrician aloofness and inability to connect with the average American.

Romney and Kerry are the same rich Massachusetts flip-flopper that's awkward around real people. They are both considered moderate by default simply because they have been on all sides of every issue at one time or another. I've never seen them in the same room together.
Maybe Romney is Kerry.

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

What gaffes? Really just the old dog story, the media looking for some juice with an old bullying story, and then Obama hitting on Bain liquidating some steel companies etc etc. The economy just not doing well and last election Obama said it would be all better by now. His stimulus just didnt help much. Like many economists said simply not enough shovel ready projects to make it work. Then he did a bunch in tax cuts, and to states to keep public unions from laying off and to pay unemployment. That just left not enough for the infrastructure projects that would have helped more.

How can you not see why people leery considering what Obama said unemployment would be etc etc? Remember Clinton beating G Bush sr on the economy. It was way better then the economy we have now lol. And the famous saying, its the economy stupid!

Funny because Bush SR lost after his big 91 gulf war victory. Obama may have thought Bin Ladens death was a huge boost, but its the economy stupid.

many economists didn't say there weren't enough shovel ready projects,they said the stimulas was to small.
that old juice,bain, is what willard is using as the bases of his business exp.
the general election will be reminded of everything newt gingrich & rick perry stated about it.
obama never said it would be better by now,but it is better than what it was when GWB was president.
btw from his statements about "enjoying firing people" to his blundering of the bullying incident, "corp. are people too" to How he deserves credit for saving GM & chrysler. he has plenty of gaffes, & we're just getting started.

with bain he went from saying he created 100,000 jobs then changed to tens of thousands of jobs then changed again to just thousands of jobs. now he's not even talking about it.

[El Minion]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

What gaffes? Really just the old dog story, the media looking for some juice with an old bullying story, and then Obama hitting on Bain liquidating some steel companies etc etc. The economy just not doing well and last election Obama said it would be all better by now. His stimulus just didnt help much. Like many economists said simply not enough shovel ready projects to make it work. Then he did a bunch in tax cuts, and to states to keep public unions from laying off and to pay unemployment. That just left not enough for the infrastructure projects that would have helped more.

How can you not see why people leery considering what Obama said unemployment would be etc etc? Remember Clinton beating G Bush sr on the economy. It was way better then the economy we have now lol. And the famous saying, its the economy stupid!

Funny because Bush SR lost after his big 91 gulf war victory. Obama may have thought Bin Ladens death was a huge boost, but its the economy stupid.

How about what record? Romney is just a one-term governor who refused to run for re-election after running as a moderate and progressive. His only accomplishment is the health care reform of universal health insurance with mandates that he is now against before he was for it, the antithesis of the Tea Party. Romney has failed in more political races than he has won (1) since 1994. Romney is neither a southerner nor christian and who lives in a northern Yankee blue state, he doesn't even have Middle America or Western state republican ethos going for himself. Romney's only support will be from anti-Obama/black hatred sentiment, not any pro-Romney support.

[The Lone Bolt]

Originally Posted by El Minion

And yet...

Mitt Romney has a gift for words — self-destructive words. On Friday he did it again, telling the Conservative Political Action Conference that he was a “severely conservative governor.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/13/op...rome.html?_r=1

Which is it Mittens? "Moderate Progressive" or "Severe Conservative"?

[Missouribronc]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

Mitt has a foreign policy "brain trust" that includes neocons like John Bolton and Robert Kaplan, and hard line Zionists like Bibi Netanyahu, the PM of another state (Israel).

If elected -- the Mormon president will initiate Armageddon -- and that will be all she wrote.

.


Classic.

[cutthemdown]

Romney only behind a few % points in the battleground states, and ahead in some others. This before picking a vp or the convention which could be a boost. Meanwhile Obamas convention will be hijacked by the gay issue.

I think Romney positioned pretty well. But the fact liberals think its locked up is good. It means they don't give as much money or get out and vote as fervently.

Just not seeing the huge gaffes the thread title alluded to. More like some negative perceptions, but no huge gaffes or scandals. Just some stupid stuff that people dont seem to care about.

[NUB]

Romney's choice as a VP will indeed be a big thing.

That said, Obama is not campaigning yet. It has been years now so people might have forgotten just how much energy Obama can bring to the field. Romney is a stone-faced robot in comparison, full of rigid quirks and having a lot of difficulty relating to normal folks. Obama can be found playing around with families and looking good in any crowd while Romney hover-hands black people and grimaces down a beer or two at the local pub.

I think Obama will inevitably win. By how much will have to do with who Romney takes as his VP.

[Garcia Bronco]

Obama has been campaigning.

[peacepipe]

obama is just getting started.

[Requiem]

[cutthemdown]

Romney has been trying to win the primary, he's just now turning his attention to Obama. Obama hasbeen campaigning since his first week in office. All he does is go to fundraisers. He goes to more then any President in history! FACT!

[peacepipe]

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.co...uestions-today

Jim Acosta (CNN) @jimacostacnn: Romney campaign and Secret Service attempted to keep press off ropeline so no q’s to candidate on Bain

Kasie Hunt (AP) @kasie: Campaign staff and volunteers trying to physically prevent reporters from approaching the rope line to ask questions of Romney.

Sara Murray (WSJ) @SaraMurray: Press lead on the #Romney bus announces there will be no questions for the candidate today. “Isn’t that our decision?” a reporter asks.

Ginger Gibson (Politico) ‏@GingerGibson: Campaign staffer trying to block reporters from getting to rope line to tell questions. She’s generally being ignored.

apparently willard is worried his house of cards he calls views will come apart.