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Old 05-04-2012, 06:57 AM   #1
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Pro Football Focus Top 101 Players of 2011

After weeks of us talking it up, the time is finally here for Pro Football Focus to start the countdown to our top player of the 2011 season.

After much individual prep work and a marathon discussion between Neil Hornsby, Khaled Elsayed, Ben Stockwell and Sam Monson, a Top 101 was created using these criteria:

• It was based solely on 2011.

• It was based on an ethos of all positions created equal. This isn’t about the most valuable players; otherwise there would be a lot more quarterbacks. This is about looking at what is expected from a position and who most exceeded that.



12. Von Miller, LB, Denver Broncos

A quite phenomenal season for a player who walked away with the PFF Rookie of the Year Award. A stunningly productive pass rusher who picked up 60 regular season sacks, hits, and hurries despite playing a quarter of it with a cast on his hand. That shouldn’t deflect from some remarkable performances where he destroyed tackles, including an incredible run between Weeks 9 and 12 where he scored a +28.5 grade over four games. He didn’t miss a single tackle all season, and while not a natural in coverage, he made plays in the running game.

Best Performance: Week 11 versus New York Jets (+8.7)

Key Stat: Had the highest defensive grade of the year (+50.4).



69. Brodrick Bunkley, DT, Denver Broncos

There wasn’t a player in the league like Bunkley last year. He may as well have had his position renamed ‘destroyer’ because it seemed he was sent out on the field simply to dismantle the center across from him; so good was he the Patriots essentially schemed to get him off the field. The reason Bunkley is relatively low down on this list is because he was purely an early down player that only got on the field for 485 snaps in the regular season. That, however, didn’t stop him from picking up a +28.4 run defense grade. Top of the tree among defensive tackles.

Best Performance: Week 11 versus New York Jets (+6.5)

Key Stat: 11.3% of all run plays he was on the field for ended up with him making a defensive stop. Highest of all defensive tackles




80. Champ Bailey, CB, Denver Broncos

He’s not getting any younger, but Champ Bailey is still getting the job done. One of a handful of corners in the league who is capable of tracking a team’s top receiver and not getting abused, Bailey highlighted his talent in the playoffs where he broke up more postseason passes (three) than receptions allowed (two) in the nine times teams threw at him.

Best Performance: Wildcard Round versus Pittsburgh (+2.3)

Key Stat: The notoriously stingy defender saw to it that quarterbacks only completed 54% of passes when going after him




Pro Football Focus Top 101 Players of 2011

After weeks of us talking it up, the time is finally here for Pro Football Focus to start the countdown to our top player of the 2011 season.

After much individual prep work and a marathon discussion between Neil Hornsby, Khaled Elsayed, Ben Stockwell and Sam Monson, a Top 101 was created using these criteria:

• It was based solely on 2011.
• It was based on an ethos of all positions created equal. This isn’t about the most valuable players; otherwise there would be a lot more quarterbacks. This is about looking at what is expected from a position and who most exceeded that.




1: Aaron Rodgers, QB, Green Bay Packers
2: Justin Smith, DE, San Francisco 49ers
3: Drew Brees, QB, New Orleans Saints
4: Calvin Johnson, WR, Detroit Lions
5: Darrelle Revis, CB, New York Jets
6: Rob Gronkowski, TE, New England Patriots
7: Terrell Suggs, DE/OLB, Baltimore Ravens
8: Eli Manning, QB, New York Giants
9: Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Arizona Cardinals
10: Jared Allen, DE, Minnesota Vikings
11. Jason Peters, OT, Philadelphia Eagles
12. Von Miller, LB, Denver Broncos
13. Tom Brady, QB, New England Patriots
14. NaVorro Bowman, LB, San Francisco
15. Maurice Jones-Drew, RB, Jacksonville Jaguars
16. Cameron Wake, OLB, Miami Dolphins
17. Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, New York Giants
18. Evan Mathis, G, Philadelphia Eagles
19. Geno Atkins, DT, Cincinnati Bengals
20. Patrick Willis, LB, San Francisco 49ers
21. Jimmy Graham, TE, New Orleans Saints
22. Chris Myers, OC, Houston Texans
23. Trent Cole, DE, Philadelphia Eagles
24. Wes Welker, WR, New England Patriots
25. Lardarius Webb, CB, Baltimore Ravens
26. DeMarcus Ware, OLB, Dallas Cowboys
27. Carl Nicks, OG, New Orleans Saints
28. Derrick Johnson, LB, Kansas City Chiefs
29. Arian Foster, RB, Houston Texans
30. Johnathan Joseph, CB, Houston Texans
31. LeSean McCoy, RB, Philadelphia Eagles
32. Brian Cushing, LB, Houston Texans
33. Troy Polamalu, S, Pittsburgh Steelers
34. Marshal Yanda, OG, Baltimore Ravens
35. John Abraham, DE, Atlanta Falcons
36. Sione Pouha, DT, New York Jets
37. Victor Cruz, WR, New York Giants
38. Clay Matthews, OLB, Green Bay Packers
39. Aaron Hernandez, TE, New England Patriots
40. Fred Jackson, RB, Buffalo Bills
41. Daryl Smith, LB, Jacksonville Jaguars
42. Steve Smith, WR, Carolina Panthers
43. Matt Forte, RB, Chicago Bears
44. Cortland Finnegan, CB, Tennessee Titans
45. Ray McDonald, DE, San Francisco 49ers
46. Nick Mangold, OC, New York Jets
47. Julius Peppers, DE, Chicago Bears
48. Ben Roethlisberger, QB, Pittsburgh Steelers
49. Darren Sproles, RB, New Orleans Saints
50. Hakeem Nicks, WR, New York Giants
61. Percy Harvin, WR, Minnesota Vikings
62. Brent Grimes, CB, Atlanta Falcons
63. Mike Wallace, WR, Pittsburgh Steelers
64. Aldon Smith, OLB, San Francisco 49ers
65. Duane Brown, OT, Houston Texans
66. Eric Weddle, S, San Diego Chargers
67. Joe Thomas, OT, Cleveland Browns
68. James Harrison, OLB, Pittsburgh Steelers
69. Brodrick Bunkley, DT, Denver Broncos
70. Adrian Wilson, S, Arizona Cardinals
71. Bryan Bulaga, T, Green Bay Packers
72. Jairus Byrd, S, Buffalo Bills
73. Richard Seymour, DT, Oakland Raiders
74. Matt Ryan, QB, Atlanta Falcons
75. John Sullivan, C, Minnesota Vikings
76. Stephen Tulloch, LB, Detroit Lions
77. Jay Ratliff, NT, Dallas Cowboys
78. Carlos Rogers, CB, San Francisco 49ers
79. Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Atlanta Falcons
80. Champ Bailey, CB, Denver Broncos
81. Matthew Stafford, QB, Detroit Lions
82. Andrew Whitworth, T, Cincinnati Bengals
83. Kevin Williams, DT, Minnesota Vikings
84. Tony Gonzalez, TE, Atlanta Falcons
85. Ray Rice, RB, Baltimore Ravens
86. Paul Posluszny, LB, Jacksonville Jaguars
87. Kam Chancellor, S, Seattle Seahawks
88. Joe Haden, CB, Cleveland Browns
89. Philip Rivers, QB, San Diego Chargers
90. Haloti Ngata, DT, Baltimore Ravens
91. Chris Long, DE, St Louis Rams
92. Marshawn Lynch, RB, Seattle Seahawks
93. Asante Samuel, CB, Philadelphia Eagles
94. Alan Branch, DT, Seattle Seahawks
95. Cam Newton, QB, Carolina Panthers
96. London Fletcher, LB, Washington Redskins
97. Brian Orakpo, OLB, Washington Redskins
98. Josh Sitton, G, Green Bay Packers
99. Richard Sherman, CB, Seattle Seahawks
100. Erin Henderson, LB, Minnesota Vikings
101. Chris Gamble, CB, Carolina Panthers










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Old 05-04-2012, 07:01 AM   #2
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Was Bunkley a success because Broncos gave him one specific role. Just blow the center up and stop the runs up the gut? What happens if Saints keep him on the field more? Will he still make lists like this.

Sucks we lost him lets hope Warren or Vickerson can get healthy.
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I really like some of what they do... especially the stuff that's cut and dry, but when they "grade" players and attempt to interpret things they largely do a piss poor job.
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Was Bunkley a success because Broncos gave him one specific role. Just blow the center up and stop the runs up the gut? What happens if Saints keep him on the field more? Will he still make lists like this.

Sucks we lost him lets hope Warren or Vickerson can get healthy.

Since we paid Warren 8 MILLION he better.
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Old 05-04-2012, 10:07 PM   #5
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Was Bunkley a success because Broncos gave him one specific role. Just blow the center up and stop the runs up the gut? What happens if Saints keep him on the field more? Will he still make lists like this.

Sucks we lost him lets hope Warren or Vickerson can get healthy.
No, Bunkley is a stationary object so if you have him on the field in passing situations it is like playing with 10 men - he does 1 thing very well and that is playing 1 gap nose tackle on run downs.
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That 54% completion rate just blew my hair back!
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Much more realistic than that piece of **** put out by NFLN and referenced by all the Tebois.
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I really like some of what they do... especially the stuff that's cut and dry, but when they "grade" players and attempt to interpret things they largely do a piss poor job.
I totally agree. I used to love Football outsiders as well, but the major problem with these sites is they are only as good as the quality of their inputs.

I lost a LOT of respect for FO when they graded out Champ a few years ago with over 50% more balls thrown at him than DEN actually graded him. Being a site dedicated to advanced statistics, them being off by 50% on the rediculously small sample size they try to extrapolate statistically is not only awful but downright irresponsible. When I emailed their founder to let him know (Aaron Schatz), he expressed concern over the discrepancy privately but never retracted or qualified his results.

In the end, it would question all their data collection methods and their use of volunteers who have very little training. The real problem is the lack of having a qualified backround to understand the facts they "see" and report as data.

The thing they can do well is help show formation and tendencies. Things that are relatively hard to screw up. However, I never trust their back end or WR rankings at all.

PFF is trying just as hard, but their analysis is really weird as they only accept what they see and not what actually may have happened as well. They are very matter of fact in assignment descretion, and act like not having a playcall is not a problem, instead of making it a factor in their analysis. Their overall approach is very unique, but it lacks reliability and validity IMHO and does not always stand up to scrutiny when reviewed either.
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I totally agree. I used to love Football outsiders as well, but the major problem with these sites is they are only as good as the quality of their inputs.

I lost a LOT of respect for FO when they graded out Champ a few years ago with over 50% more balls thrown at him than DEN actually graded him. Being a site dedicated to advanced statistics, them being off by 50% on the rediculously small sample size they try to extrapolate statistically is not only awful but downright irresponsible. When I emailed their founder to let him know (Aaron Schatz), he expressed concern over the discrepancy privately but never retracted or qualified his results.

In the end, it would question all their data collection methods and their use of volunteers who have very little training. The real problem is the lack of having a qualified backround to understand the facts they "see" and report as data.

The thing they can do well is help show formation and tendencies. Things that are relatively hard to screw up. However, I never trust their back end or WR rankings at all.

PFF is trying just as hard, but their analysis is really weird as they only accept what they see and not what actually may have happened as well. They are very matter of fact in assignment descretion, and act like not having a playcall is not a problem, instead of making it a factor in their analysis. Their overall approach is very unique, but it lacks reliability and validity IMHO and does not always stand up to scrutiny when reviewed either.
My biggest problem with them is the compounding of errors - they base a very large amount of their non-trivial analysis on grading out players in different aspects of the game and grading out teams by correcting for obvious bias.

A few years ago, the Raiders were an atrocious team and as a result they had the fewest passing yards against them - it wasn't because their pass defense was amazing it was simply because opposing teams had no reason to pass the ball, they would win the game by scoring 14 points and sitting back. What that meant was that their yards allowed pass defense rank was useless, and being able to correct for that would be really helpful in actually evaluating how good the pass defense was.
The problem is when you have inconsistent evaluations of what constitutes a drop, an off target pass, a pass defended, a target, a missed tackle etc. By taking this faulty data and analyzing it, you come up with faulty rankings which are then used to remove bias from other rankings, in the end compounding errors from several different sources into a result that has huge errorbars.
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Are you referring to the list put together solely by NFL players?
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16. Cameron Wake, OLB, Miami Dolphins


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Cameron Wake and the Miami Dolphins reached agreement on a 4-yr, $49 million extension that includes $20 million guaranteed.
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No, Bunkley is a stationary object so if you have him on the field in passing situations it is like playing with 10 men - he does 1 thing very well and that is playing 1 gap nose tackle on run downs.
I think that's why the Broncos let him walk (instead of paying him that crazy money). They clearly think this team is going to be playing from the front, so they're going to see a lot of passing downs. Everything they've done on the defensive side of the ball is setting up for that.
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We should have matched New Orleans' offer for Bunkley.
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I think that's why the Broncos let him walk (instead of paying him that crazy money).
I guess I haven't really researched the average starting DT salaries in the NFL, but what Bunkley signed for doesn't seem like 'crazy money' at all to me. His cap hit for 2012 is $1.6 million, jumps to $4.6 million in 2013 and stays at $5.3 million for the last three years. 2012 and 2013 are guaranteed, and he received a $4.5 million signing bonus.

Seem pretty average and affordable for a good defensive tackle.
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That still exceeds Tebow by 7 percentage points. Conclusion: Tebow is more bad than Champ is good.
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I guess I haven't really researched the average starting DT salaries in the NFL, but what Bunkley signed for doesn't seem like 'crazy money' at all to me. His cap hit for 2012 is $1.6 million, jumps to $4.6 million in 2013 and stays at $5.3 million for the last three years. 2012 and 2013 are guaranteed, and he received a $4.5 million signing bonus.

Seem pretty average and affordable for a good defensive tackle.
he played like what 40-50% of the snaps? you don't fork over 25 mil over 5 for a DT like that. that's not smart when you can replace his production in the draft and he didn't generate a pass rush.
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I guess I haven't really researched the average starting DT salaries in the NFL, but what Bunkley signed for doesn't seem like 'crazy money' at all to me. His cap hit for 2012 is $1.6 million, jumps to $4.6 million in 2013 and stays at $5.3 million for the last three years. 2012 and 2013 are guaranteed, and he received a $4.5 million signing bonus.

Seem pretty average and affordable for a good defensive tackle.
That contract is a 2 year 9 million dollar contract with a few incentives and a team option for years 3-5. 4.5 million is quite a bit per year for a run stopper who plays less than half the snaps.

My gut feeling is that we had a similar on the table, but he chose New Orleans - I would have liked to keep him around, he is still a good early down guy and we are short on warm bodies in the middle of the defensive line.
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Joe Mays is making $4 million this year.
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