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Old 04-27-2012, 12:33 PM   #1
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As far as value picks go, right now this guy would be the top of the list. He's basically a slightly bigger clone of Elvis Dumervil and ran the same 40 time of 4.75. He can play DE in a 4-3. Maybe even a LB position, although his coverage skills are suspect. His real strength, like Doom, is rushing the passer. At #36 he would be the best value pick on the board. Most boards had him listed around 20. There's one hang up in his record, a fight with a gf where charges were dropped.

As far as first round value goes, he's at the top of the list, followed by:

Cordy Glenn
Jerel Worthy
Coby Fleener
Devon Still
Reuben Randle
Stephen Hill

Oops! Forgot to add Cordy.

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Old 04-27-2012, 12:35 PM   #2
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I like the idea. Doesn't he have off field issues though?
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:35 PM   #3
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Injury/character concerns.

I like
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If I'm ordering your post to my liking.
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:37 PM   #4
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I like the idea. Doesn't he have off field issues though?
The only thing I could find is that he had a fight with a gf that the police witnessed. Both were arrested and charges were later dropped.
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:38 PM   #5
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He's pretty good, but the safer move is to not take him and trade back.
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What is the character concerns? NFLN had a good piece on him the other day and he seems like a good kid. Was taken in by a friends family pretty young and did pretty well for himself. I would slide him into the DT spot and wreak havoc
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The arrest happened in 2009. No reports of trouble since.
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Smells like a Baltimore pick
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:47 PM   #9
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Smells like a Baltimore pick
Yeah, but he would be an OLB in their system. Kind of high pick for a backup.
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He's kinda short...and doesnt have doom/freeney pass rushing skills....interesting guy though
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"The more Courtney Upshaw talked (in the interview process), the more I got scared. He has a lot of distractions in his life. There are a lot of concerns there. We need an edge guy, but we wouldn't touch him in the first (round). I'd have hesitations in the second where we're picking, after hearing him talk about grabbing his girlfriend by the hair."


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"The more Courtney Upshaw talked (in the interview process), the more I got scared. He has a lot of distractions in his life. There are a lot of concerns there. We need an edge guy, but we wouldn't touch him in the first (round). I'd have hesitations in the second where we're picking, after hearing him talk about grabbing his girlfriend by the hair."


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"The more Courtney Upshaw talked (in the interview process), the more I got scared. He has a lot of distractions in his life. There are a lot of concerns there. We need an edge guy, but we wouldn't touch him in the first (round). I'd have hesitations in the second where we're picking, after hearing him talk about grabbing his girlfriend by the hair."


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He's pretty good, but the safer move is to not take him and trade back.
Yeah, yeah.....I want to keep trading back until we have nothing but 7th round picks.....maybe 14 or 15 of them!!

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1. Doom has a much longer wingspan than Upshaw and ran the same 40 as Upshaw with a bum wheel because Mike Vick's younger brother cleated his calf near the end of that college season.

2. Where would Upshaw play? Ayers is just coming into his own and he's a good run stopper. Upshaw won't keep guys off Miller in like Ayers can.

3. Cordy Glenn is a bigger immediate impact. Konz probably would be too.
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Yeah, yeah.....I want to keep trading back until we have nothing but 7th round picks.....maybe 14 or 15 of them!!

Or, as was the case with the last trade back to 36, no additional picks, just keep moving up the later round picks.

Xander's goal is to achieve the rare "pick merge" where ultimately the Broncos cause a later round pick to move up and meet the moved back pick -- LOOK OUT, CONSECUTIVE PICKS!
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He's pretty good, but the safer move is to not take him and trade back.
Agreed. Keep trading down and stockpiling picks for the 6th and 7th rounds. That's where the real value is.
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1. Doom has a much longer wingspan than Upshaw and ran the same 40 as Upshaw with a bum wheel because Mike Vick's younger brother cleated his calf near the end of that college season.

2. Where would Upshaw play? Ayers is just coming into his own and he's a good run stopper. Upshaw won't keep guys off Miller in like Ayers can.

3. Cordy Glenn is a bigger immediate impact. Konz probably would be too.
good post..

IF we did not have holes to fill at DT then and only then would I like getting another DE..

We have plenty of them and there is only so much pass rushing you can do.. Especially if they are KNOWING they can run on you in third and long situations like they did last year late in the season....
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1. Doom has a much longer wingspan than Upshaw and ran the same 40 as Upshaw with a bum wheel because Mike Vick's younger brother cleated his calf near the end of that college season.

2. Where would Upshaw play? Ayers is just coming into his own and he's a good run stopper. Upshaw won't keep guys off Miller in like Ayers can.

3. Cordy Glenn is a bigger immediate impact. Konz probably would be too.
Damn! You have all the inside poop.

Yeah. I was just wondering why he's dropping so bad. Seems like his issues were resolved a couple of years ago. Maybe he's just such a tweener that nobody can figure out how he would plug in? You're right, I'd much rather see Glenn on the Broncos. I just don't have much hope of that happening. Maybe they'll trade with the Rams tonight?

I looked up Upshaw's wingspan. It's actually the same as Doom's - 32"

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no, but i agree it would be great value
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As far as value picks go, right now this guy would be the top of the list. He's basically a slightly bigger clone of Elvis Dumervil and ran the same 40 time of 4.75. He can play DE in a 4-3. Maybe even a LB position, although his coverage skills are suspect. His real strength, like Doom, is rushing the passer. At #36 he would be the best value pick on the board. Most boards had him listed around 20. There's one hang up in his record, a fight with a gf where charges were dropped.

As far as first round value goes, he's at the top of the list, followed by:

Jerel Worthy
Coby Fleener
Devon Still
Reuben Randle
Stephen Hill
Yah, I wouldn't mind the Broncos taking Upshaw for one reason--impact player on defense.
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Old 04-27-2012, 01:26 PM   #23
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As far as value picks go, right now this guy would be the top of the list. He's basically a slightly bigger clone of Elvis Dumervil and ran the same 40 time of 4.75. He can play DE in a 4-3. Maybe even a LB position, although his coverage skills are suspect. His real strength, like Doom, is rushing the passer. At #36 he would be the best value pick on the board. Most boards had him listed around 20. There's one hang up in his record, a fight with a gf where charges were dropped.

As far as first round value goes, he's at the top of the list, followed by:

Cordy Glenn
Jerel Worthy
Coby Fleener
Devon Still
Reuben Randle
Stephen Hill

Oops! Forgot to add Cordy.
ive changed my mind about 6 times today so for the next 10 minutes i want them taking Upshaw..
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1. Doom has a much longer wingspan than Upshaw and ran the same 40 as Upshaw with a bum wheel because Mike Vick's younger brother cleated his calf near the end of that college season.

2. Where would Upshaw play? Ayers is just coming into his own and he's a good run stopper. Upshaw won't keep guys off Miller in like Ayers can.

3. Cordy Glenn is a bigger immediate impact. Konz probably would be too.
1. Cordy Glenn (RT)
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