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Old 04-26-2012, 10:37 AM   #1
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Tim Tebow's success dropped Broncos in NFL draft order
Posted: 04/26/2012 01:00:00 AM MDT
Updated: 04/26/2012 08:32:02 AM MDT
By Mike Klis

Somewhere, no doubt in proximity to a spotlight, Tim Tebow is giggling. The No. 25 draft pick was Tebow's parting gift to the Broncos.

The three-day NFL draft starts tonight, with the first round beginning at 6 p.m. The Broncos are expected to make their No. 25 selection around 8 p.m.

"We'll have a group of players we like," said John Elway, the Broncos' executive vice president of football operations. "But because of where we're picking and you don't know how the board will fall, we won't know who we're picking until an hour before our pick. Not an hour before the draft, an hour before we pick."

If not for Tebow, the Broncos may have been picking in the top five for a second consecutive year. They may have been picking closer to 6:30 p.m. They may have been in position to draft another Von Miller.

The Broncos were 1-4 through Week 5 of the 2011 season, seemingly headed for another high draft choice after finishing 4-12 the year before.

Then came Tebow. One improbable victory followed another. The unorthodox Tebow not only led the Broncos to the playoffs, he led them past Pittsburgh in the postseason's first round with an overtime touchdown pass to Demaryius Thomas. That playoff victory qualified the Broncos for the NFL's Elite Eight in 2011 but bottom eight for the subsequent draft in 2012.

Gosh dang, Tebow! Say that to him and he will giggle.

Tebow and the distraction that is Tebowmania were traded to the New York Jets last month after the Broncos signed Peyton Manning, a four-time MVP quarterback whose stardom is based more on proof than faith. Manning was a blockbuster addition from free agency, but anyone expecting the Broncos to get another NFL defensive rookie of the year tonight might be dreaming.

Von Millers are available at No. 2. They're usually gone by No. 25.

"We had the whole draft last year," Elway said. "Now you know you have 24 guys that are going to go in front of you, so trying to figure out who is going to be an impact guy at 25, it's a big difference."

Then again, Broncos coach John Fox may be among the dreamers. He acquired linebacker Jon Beason with the No. 25 pick for Carolina in 2007. Tebow was taken No. 25 in 2010, three slots after Demaryius Thomas. The Broncos wouldn't be upset if they picked up the next Demaryius Thomas tonight. Stephen Hill was Thomas' teammate at Georgia Tech.

Hill is a 6-foot-5 wide receiver who ran the 40-yard dash in 4.36 seconds at the NFL scouting combine in Indianapolis. He averaged 29.3 yards per catch as a junior last season. How does Georgia Tech, with its spread-option offense, keep getting first round-caliber wide receivers?

"It was a pro-style offense when I got there," Thomas said. "I thought about transferring, but it's an offense where as a receiver, you can make big plays. And it's an offense where you learn how to block, which is good for the NFL. I told that to Stephen Hill when I was recruiting him, that if you put the hard work in, you will have big-time success. It's why I stayed there and why Stephen came there."

Hill might be the Broncos' choice if defensive tackles Dontari Poe of Memphis or LSU's Michael Brockers are gone by No. 25. If
Stephen Hill was a wide receiver in an option offense at Georgia Tech but averaged nearly 30 yards per catch last year. (Kevin C. Cox, Getty Images)
Brockers, Poe and Hill are all gone, the Broncos may take Alabama cornerback Dre Kirkpatrick, or one of two more defensive tackles: Jerel Worthy or Kendall Reyes.

This is what the Broncos mean when they say they will take the best available player, even if they recognize defensive tackle is their top position of need. If they don't take a defensive tackle in the first round, the Broncos are almost certain to take one Friday, when the draft conducts the second and third rounds.

As for Friday, the Broncos will look at selecting a running back (Doug Martin, Chris Polk or Terrance Ganaway), quarterback (Nick Foles or Brock Osweiler), kick returner and either a cornerback or defensive tackle, depending on which position isn't addressed in the first round tonight.

That's more needs than picks, which is why trading back from the No. 25 slot for an additional draft choice or two also is a possibility.

"It's fluid," Elway said of the Broncos' strategy.

Dang, that giggling Tebow
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Kinda wondering why it took so long for someone else to figure this out..
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:38 AM   #2
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Football is a team game. Tebow can go lick Jesus.
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:39 AM   #3
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:40 AM   #4
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Football is a team game. Tebow can go lick Jesus.
But OMG Peyton DOEZ NOTHIN BUT WIN TROPHEEZ!
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:41 AM   #5
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I will take sliding from 11 to 25 in the draft in exchange for the fun we had last year any day of the week. Thanks for the memories Tim, but this is freakin Peyton Manning who replaced you.
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:42 AM   #6
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They are picking about where they should be picking talent wise, and without the success last year I doubt Manning even considers the Broncos.
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:43 AM   #7
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Every team that didn't beat the Steelers in that game would gladly trade down to do so.

This argument is retarded.
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:44 AM   #9
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So Tebow throws a slant and DT runs 80 yards.

Doom had a play of the game with his strip of Big Ben at the DEN 45 with 25 secs to go.

It was a team win. Had the offense just scored more than 3 points in the 2nd half it doesn't go to OT or the defense stop one more drive and FG

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So Tebow throws a slant and DT runs 80 yards. Seems about right in line with how it it it at FLO with Harvin

Doom had a play of the game with his strip of Big Ben at the DEN 45 with 25 secs to go.

It was a team win. Had the offense just scored more than 3 points in the 2nd half it doesn't go to OT
Figures. Both PIT and DEN score above their season averages, and the hatas still say it was all about the defense.
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Figures. Both PIT and DEN score above their season averages, and the hatas still say it was all about the defense.
Well as exciting as that game was, and as fun as it was to watch Tim play, generally defenses dont play cover zero on a first and ten from the 20 in OT
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Figures. Both PIT and DEN score above their season averages, and the hatas still say it was all about the defense.
Said it was a team win. Both sides made plays when they had to. Once again your next good post with be your first
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How dare he worsen our draft status by beating the Steelers in one of the most glorious memories I'll have of Broncos football until my brain goes! How dare he!
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yet if we played a good game agsint them and lost how many folks would have been less happy..

Considering we lost options on 8 draft choices with each of our original picks..

I would have been just as satisfied with the season and what Tebow and the TEAM accomplished had they not won the game..

But then I've always looked at thing long term..

Just maybe one or more of those impact players that John is wanting this year would have been there at 18..

Or maybe even being able to trade that pick for a boat load of others fill our bucket list of players we need for the upcoming season..

but no y'all are giddy about winning what turned out to be a meaningless game..
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Watching that OT play to Thomas was worth it.
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:01 AM   #17
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I'd rather win and enjoy a 8-8 season with a playoff victory (first in A LONG time), than say...well, we have a top 5-10 pick. I don't want to be Cleveland and be glad to at least be getting a good player every year.
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Somewhere, no doubt in proximity to a spotlight, Mike Klis is giggling. The No. 25 draft pick was Tebow's parting gift to the Broncos.

fixed.....this guy is still pissed the broncos traded away his meal ticket
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Well as exciting as that game was, and as fun as it was to watch Tim play, generally defenses dont play cover zero on a first and ten from the 20 in OT
They do if they can't stop your rushing attack and they think you're going to run it.
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If better picks are the goal, we probably shouldn't have gotten Manning.
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If better picks are the goal, we probably shouldn't have gotten Manning.
Actually once you get the team loaded with talent then you bring in Manning to win consistently..

Then you draft BPA all the time and becasue your not having to go for a couple of spots each year you have the luxury of trading back for more picks in rounds 1-3 and maybe 4 if the draft is deep..
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Said it was a team win. Both sides made plays when they had to. Once again your next good post with be your first
Tebow threw the ball that won the game. Credit where credit is due. KO would've pissed that game away 6 different ways.

You can't balance it out with a "Well if Doom wouldda missed this play, etc etc."

You could just as easily say "If Champ wouldda caught that, or if Willis wouldn't have fumbled that" there would have been no OT.

The team that was 4-12 and 1-4 without Tebow on the field beat the defending AFC Champs in the playoffs. Please stop with the "He was just one of 53 guys" crap.
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Who's Tebow?
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Tebow threw the ball that won the game. Credit where credit is due. KO would've pissed that game away 6 different ways.

You can't balance it out with a "Well if Doom wouldda missed this play, etc etc."

You could just as easily say "If Champ wouldda caught that, or if Willis wouldn't have fumbled that" there would have been no OT.

The team that was 4-12 and 1-4 without Tebow on the field beat the defending AFC Champs in the playoffs. Please stop with the "He was just one of 53 guys" crap.
OK Tebow beat the Pitts Steelers. Answer me this

So how much credit does DT get? Zero for running 60 yards and stiff arming the tackler?

Are you saying that the Doom play was not pivotal to getting to OT?

1st and 10 at the Denver 45 with 25 seconds left and he strips Big Ben and pushes Pitt out of a potential FG attempt

You read what you want to read when it comes to Tebow

Who won the NYJ game? Tebow or Andre Goodman?

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Tebow threw the ball that won the game. Credit where credit is due. KO would've pissed that game away 6 different ways.

You can't balance it out with a "Well if Doom wouldda missed this play, etc etc."

You could just as easily say "If Champ wouldda caught that, or if Willis wouldn't have fumbled that" there would have been no OT.

The team that was 4-12 and 1-4 without Tebow on the field beat the defending AFC Champs in the playoffs. Please stop with the "He was just one of 53 guys" crap.
I bet he even called that play..
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