Obama: ‘The War on Terror is Over’

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by DenverBrit

Goebbels was a Facist.

National Socialist? Nah, that was the 'cover' they used to sneak into power.

Goebbels=propaganda and lies.

Probably can't expect Bob to know anything about this topic when he doesn't even have any knowledge of American history prior to the Reagan Revolution.

[DenverBrit]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

Not so fast!

Looks like another war is just a shot away.
MHG

How many years have you been predicting another war?? Even a blind squirrel....etc, etc.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Today, the National Journal reported that a senior State Department official has announced, “The war on terror is over.”

“Now that we have killed most of al Qaida,” the source said, “now that people have come to see legitimate means of expression, people who once might have gone into al Qaida see an opportunity for a legitimate Islamism.”

The article itself describes the Obama administration’s new vision of foreign policy, which admits no enemies. Everyone, in this view, is a friend. Islamism, says the Obama administration, is just fine, so long as it does not openly support terrorism.

Who said what and where is the link?

[Crushaholic]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Who said what and where is the link?

It doesn't matter. If the media runs with this premise, it will be true...

[alkemical]

http://lewrockwell.com/rep3/feds-sei...-accounts.html

Monsanto’s Food and Drug Administration can’t close down small dairies and private food clubs fast enough, bursting on the scene with guns drawn as if the criminalized right to contract for natural foods we’ve consumed for millennia deserves SWAT attention.

Now, Obama has the Dept. of Justice going after small farmers under the post-911 “Bank Secrecy Act” which makes it a crime to deposit less than $10,000 when you earned more than that.

“The level we deposited was what it was and it was about the same every week,” Randy Sowers told Frederick News. The Sowers own and run South Mountain Creamery in Middletown, Maryland.

Admittedly, when the Sowers earned over $10,000 in February, and learned they’d have to fill out paperwork at the bank for such large deposits, they simply rolled the deposits over to keep them below the none-of-your-****ing-business amount, rather than waste time on bureaucratic red tape aimed at flagging terrorism or other illegal activities.

“Structuring,” explains Overlawyered.com, “is the federal criminal offense of splitting up bank deposits so as to keep them under a threshold such as $10,000 above which banks have to report transactions to the government.”

While being questioned, the Sowers were finally presented with a seizure order and advised that the feds had already emptied their bank account of $70,000. The Dept. of Justice has since sued to keep $63,000 of the Sowers’ money, though they committed no crime other than maintaining their privacy.

Without funds, they will be unable to make purchases for the spring planting.

When a similar action was taken against Taylor’s Produce Stand last year, the feds seized $90,000, dropped the charges and kept $45,000 of the stand’s money.

Knowing that most farms operate on a very thin margin, such abuse of power wipes out a family’s income, and for a bonus, the feds enhance the monopoly power of Monsanto, Big Dairy and their supply chain.

You can just smell attorney Michael Taylor behind all this, Obama’s dairy dog. Who you’ll find, instead, is US district attorney Stefan Cassella. He’s the first to head the DOJ’s Asset Forfeiture & Money Laundering Section, created in 2009, having wrote the books on it. He cut his teeth on seizing $1.2 billion from real money launderer, BCCI. Guess his focus has changed since then.

The Maryland Dept. of Agriculture had no trouble hitting up the Sowers for a recipe in its Buy-Local cookbook; but Cassella must’ve missed that public service, or it’s what drew his attention – “Ah! A small dairy! Let’s rob them of their cash, those evil Big Dairy competitors. They probably sell raw milk under the table. Even if we find no evidence of wrongdoing, we’ll keep their money anyway.” (Cue Curly’s, “yuh, yuh, yuh.”)

City Paper reports that in 2011, “Maryland brought 14 of the nation’s 99 structuring cases, making it the top state for such prosecutions. Nationally, the numbers have been rising; the 2011 figures are up 8.8 percent from the year before and up 57.1 percent from five years ago.”

Funny, Bank of America, Goldman Sachs, and other criminal banksters are still in operation, despite committing millions of acts of fraud during mortgage reassignations. But DOJ prioritizes squashing family farmers since it’s easier to pick the low-hanging fruit than to do battle with well-financed criminals who’ve illegally seized the homes of millions of US citizens.

Former Maryland assistant U.S. attorney Steven Levin told the paper, “The emphasis is on basically seizing money, whether it is legally or illegally earned. It can lead to financial ruin for business owners, and there’s a potential for abuse here by the government.”

Ya think?

The Bank Secrecy Act was passed after 9/11, another in a long line of Constitutionally-abhorrent laws enacted by officials who cannot prove they were elected to office (given those elections were held on electronic voting systems that can be hacked without leaving evidence of the crime).

With the current Administration’s Agenda 21 focus on destroying the natural food and herb industry, is it not surprising to see Unconstitutional terrorist legislation used on innocent, law abiding citizens?

Reprinted from Food Freedom News.

[alkemical]

http://www.disinfo.com/2012/04/defen...-s-spy-agency/

Do we really need to add to CIA, NSA, DIA, et al? Greg Miller reports for the Washington Post:

The Pentagon is planning to ramp up its spying operations against high-priority targets such as Iran under an intelligence reorganization aimed at expanding on the military’s espionage efforts beyond war zones, a senior defense official said Monday.

The newly created Defense Clandestine Service would work closely with the CIA — pairing two organizations that have often seen each other as rivals — in an effort to bolster espionage operations overseas at a time when the missions of the agency and the military increasingly converge.

The plan, the official said, was developed in response to a classified study completed last year by the director of national intelligence that concluded that the military’s espionage efforts needed to be more focused on major targets beyond the tactical considerations of Iraq and Afghanistan.

The new service will seek to “make sure officers are in the right locations to pursue those requirements,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the “realignment” of the military’s classified human espionage efforts…

[continues at the Washington Post]

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by alkemical

http://lewrockwell.com/rep3/feds-sei...-accounts.html

Monsanto’s Food and Drug Administration can’t close down small dairies and private food clubs fast enough, bursting on the scene with guns drawn as if the criminalized right to contract for natural foods we’ve consumed for millennia deserves SWAT attention.

Now, Obama has the Dept. of Justice going after small farmers under the post-911 “Bank Secrecy Act” which makes it a crime to deposit less than $10,000 when you earned more than that.

“The level we deposited was what it was and it was about the same every week,” Randy Sowers told Frederick News. The Sowers own and run South Mountain Creamery in Middletown, Maryland.

Admittedly, when the Sowers earned over $10,000 in February, and learned they’d have to fill out paperwork at the bank for such large deposits, they simply rolled the deposits over to keep them below the none-of-your-****ing-business amount, rather than waste time on bureaucratic red tape aimed at flagging terrorism or other illegal activities.

“Structuring,” explains Overlawyered.com, “is the federal criminal offense of splitting up bank deposits so as to keep them under a threshold such as $10,000 above which banks have to report transactions to the government.”

While being questioned, the Sowers were finally presented with a seizure order and advised that the feds had already emptied their bank account of $70,000. The Dept. of Justice has since sued to keep $63,000 of the Sowers’ money, though they committed no crime other than maintaining their privacy.

Without funds, they will be unable to make purchases for the spring planting.

When a similar action was taken against Taylor’s Produce Stand last year, the feds seized $90,000, dropped the charges and kept $45,000 of the stand’s money.

Knowing that most farms operate on a very thin margin, such abuse of power wipes out a family’s income, and for a bonus, the feds enhance the monopoly power of Monsanto, Big Dairy and their supply chain.

You can just smell attorney Michael Taylor behind all this, Obama’s dairy dog. Who you’ll find, instead, is US district attorney Stefan Cassella. He’s the first to head the DOJ’s Asset Forfeiture & Money Laundering Section, created in 2009, having wrote the books on it. He cut his teeth on seizing $1.2 billion from real money launderer, BCCI. Guess his focus has changed since then.

The Maryland Dept. of Agriculture had no trouble hitting up the Sowers for a recipe in its Buy-Local cookbook; but Cassella must’ve missed that public service, or it’s what drew his attention – “Ah! A small dairy! Let’s rob them of their cash, those evil Big Dairy competitors. They probably sell raw milk under the table. Even if we find no evidence of wrongdoing, we’ll keep their money anyway.” (Cue Curly’s, “yuh, yuh, yuh.”)

City Paper reports that in 2011, “Maryland brought 14 of the nation’s 99 structuring cases, making it the top state for such prosecutions. Nationally, the numbers have been rising; the 2011 figures are up 8.8 percent from the year before and up 57.1 percent from five years ago.”

Funny, Bank of America, Goldman Sachs, and other criminal banksters are still in operation, despite committing millions of acts of fraud during mortgage reassignations. But DOJ prioritizes squashing family farmers since it’s easier to pick the low-hanging fruit than to do battle with well-financed criminals who’ve illegally seized the homes of millions of US citizens.

Former Maryland assistant U.S. attorney Steven Levin told the paper, “The emphasis is on basically seizing money, whether it is legally or illegally earned. It can lead to financial ruin for business owners, and there’s a potential for abuse here by the government.”

Ya think?

The Bank Secrecy Act was passed after 9/11, another in a long line of Constitutionally-abhorrent laws enacted by officials who cannot prove they were elected to office (given those elections were held on electronic voting systems that can be hacked without leaving evidence of the crime).

With the current Administration’s Agenda 21 focus on destroying the natural food and herb industry, is it not surprising to see Unconstitutional terrorist legislation used on innocent, law abiding citizens?

Reprinted from Food Freedom News.

free money for the feds to spend on God only knows what else..

[alkemical]

Originally Posted by lonestar

free money for the feds to spend on God only knows what else..

Understand this isn't JUST the "feds", this is collusion between Feds & Corporate.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

Not so fast!

Looks like another war is just a shot away.
MHG

Mary Clayton lost a baby singing that song.

[baja]

Originally Posted by alkemical

http://lewrockwell.com/rep3/feds-sei...-accounts.html

Monsanto’s Food and Drug Administration can’t close down small dairies and private food clubs fast enough, bursting on the scene with guns drawn as if the criminalized right to contract for natural foods we’ve consumed for millennia deserves SWAT attention.

Now, Obama has the Dept. of Justice going after small farmers under the post-911 “Bank Secrecy Act” which makes it a crime to deposit less than $10,000 when you earned more than that.

“The level we deposited was what it was and it was about the same every week,” Randy Sowers told Frederick News. The Sowers own and run South Mountain Creamery in Middletown, Maryland.

Admittedly, when the Sowers earned over $10,000 in February, and learned they’d have to fill out paperwork at the bank for such large deposits, they simply rolled the deposits over to keep them below the none-of-your-****ing-business amount, rather than waste time on bureaucratic red tape aimed at flagging terrorism or other illegal activities.

“Structuring,” explains Overlawyered.com, “is the federal criminal offense of splitting up bank deposits so as to keep them under a threshold such as $10,000 above which banks have to report transactions to the government.”

While being questioned, the Sowers were finally presented with a seizure order and advised that the feds had already emptied their bank account of $70,000. The Dept. of Justice has since sued to keep $63,000 of the Sowers’ money, though they committed no crime other than maintaining their privacy.

Without funds, they will be unable to make purchases for the spring planting.

When a similar action was taken against Taylor’s Produce Stand last year, the feds seized $90,000, dropped the charges and kept $45,000 of the stand’s money.

Knowing that most farms operate on a very thin margin, such abuse of power wipes out a family’s income, and for a bonus, the feds enhance the monopoly power of Monsanto, Big Dairy and their supply chain.

You can just smell attorney Michael Taylor behind all this, Obama’s dairy dog. Who you’ll find, instead, is US district attorney Stefan Cassella. He’s the first to head the DOJ’s Asset Forfeiture & Money Laundering Section, created in 2009, having wrote the books on it. He cut his teeth on seizing $1.2 billion from real money launderer, BCCI. Guess his focus has changed since then.

The Maryland Dept. of Agriculture had no trouble hitting up the Sowers for a recipe in its Buy-Local cookbook; but Cassella must’ve missed that public service, or it’s what drew his attention – “Ah! A small dairy! Let’s rob them of their cash, those evil Big Dairy competitors. They probably sell raw milk under the table. Even if we find no evidence of wrongdoing, we’ll keep their money anyway.” (Cue Curly’s, “yuh, yuh, yuh.”)

City Paper reports that in 2011, “Maryland brought 14 of the nation’s 99 structuring cases, making it the top state for such prosecutions. Nationally, the numbers have been rising; the 2011 figures are up 8.8 percent from the year before and up 57.1 percent from five years ago.”

Funny, Bank of America, Goldman Sachs, and other criminal banksters are still in operation, despite committing millions of acts of fraud during mortgage reassignations. But DOJ prioritizes squashing family farmers since it’s easier to pick the low-hanging fruit than to do battle with well-financed criminals who’ve illegally seized the homes of millions of US citizens.

Former Maryland assistant U.S. attorney Steven Levin told the paper, “The emphasis is on basically seizing money, whether it is legally or illegally earned. It can lead to financial ruin for business owners, and there’s a potential for abuse here by the government.”

Ya think?

The Bank Secrecy Act was passed after 9/11, another in a long line of Constitutionally-abhorrent laws enacted by officials who cannot prove they were elected to office (given those elections were held on electronic voting systems that can be hacked without leaving evidence of the crime).

With the current Administration’s Agenda 21 focus on destroying the natural food and herb industry, is it not surprising to see Unconstitutional terrorist legislation used on innocent, law abiding citizens?

Reprinted from Food Freedom News.

Where's Meck to wave the flag when you need him?

[Bob]

Originally Posted by DenverBrit

Goebbels was a Facist.

National Socialist? Nah, that was the 'cover' they used to sneak into power.

Goebbels=propaganda and lies.

Their version of socialism, as you probably know was to impliment state control over various aspects of their economy, but to do so on a national (not international) basis. It was essentially different flavors of statism...The USSR certainly also had their propaganda ministers.

[alkemical]

Originally Posted by Bob

Their version of socialism, as you probably know was to impliment state control over various aspects of their economy, but to do so on a national (not international) basis. It was essentially different flavors of statism...The USSR certainly also had their propaganda ministers.

The fascinating thing about Nazism - is that it appealed to many different levels.

In some ways, looking at how it was marketed should be something people pay attention too.

Everybody tosses out words like "conservative/liberal - socialist, etc etc" - but in the end they/you're* doing the leg work of marketing where we're going.

*this post isn't directed @ you/bob - but more of an open statement.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by alkemical

The fascinating thing about Nazism - is that it appealed to many different levels.

In some ways, looking at how it was marketed should be something people pay attention too.

Everybody tosses out words like "conservative/liberal - socialist, etc etc" - but in the end they/you're* doing the leg work of marketing where we're going.

*this post isn't directed @ you/bob - but more of an open statement.

It was those cool unis.

[alkemical]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

It was those cool unis.

Hugo Boss.

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by baja

No it's because there are no jobs in the US at least not like a few years ago, double that with a thriving economy in much of Mexico very little debt and it allows people to come home. A lot of young well trained people are returning to Mexico no just manual labor folks. I really don't have a dog in this hunt but Mexico's future looks bright.

I hope so. A thriving Mexico, a thriving Canada, is good for the USA.

[cutthemdown]

Sinking the Enterprise ourselves, blaming it on Iran, then laying waste to them would be pure genius. Obama does that and he has my vote.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Exhibit A that the 'war on terror' is NOT over...and it's not the right wing extremists that are the most pressing problem:

The FBI arrested five men Monday evening, saying they had planted what were believed to be explosive devices under the Ohio 82 bridge over Cuyahoga Valley National Park as part of a May Day protest today.

The five men were “self-proclaimed anarchists,” who intended to detonate two improvised explosive devices (IEDs) under the bridge in Sagamore Hills, but had purchased the inert devices from undercover FBI agents, officials said.

Members of the group actually "placed the devices at the base of concrete pillars ... and attempted to detonate them at a remote location" on Monday, but what they thought were bombs were actually "intert devices," the FBI said in a news conference this morning...

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index...s_nationa.html

Oh, by the way, 2 of the suspects are Occupy organizers. Anyone backing this movement really ought to reconsider.

[Meck77]

2,000 servicemen killed. May they RIP....

$22,000,000,000 tax payer dollars spent in the last 3 years....



http://www.denverpost.com/nationworl...stan-hit-2-000

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by Meck77

2,000 servicemen killed. May they RIP....

$22,000,000,000 tax payer dollars spent in the last 3 years....



http://www.denverpost.com/nationworl...stan-hit-2-000

Meck77: Caring about the human and economic costs of wars since 2009.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

How Meck77's party "supports the troops..."

[Jetmeck]

Originally Posted by Meck77

2,000 servicemen killed. May they RIP....

$22,000,000,000 tax payer dollars spent in the last 3 years....



http://www.denverpost.com/nationworl...stan-hit-2-000

Heh Mr. Grey Poupon..............what about the other 7-8 years >?
You forget what your party created and lied to us about and give no credit to the one cleaning up your party's mess.

Out of one war and killed the Bin Laden and ending the second war.

Sorry he is not cleaning your party's chit storm up fast enuff to suit your big feeling ass................

[Meck77]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Meck77: Caring about the human and economic costs of wars since 2009.

Never have I gone on record for the support of sending Americans to death to protect the holy land.

If there is anyone who keeps strict timelines on what policy they support or do not support based on who is president it's most certainly you.

At a time when our administration should be focusing on protecting our borders/creating jobs we are spread around the globe picking fights for our little brother.

We've established this mutual stance on this a dozen times. Don't be a moron.

[Paladin]

Jeebus. The dipshytes are out today.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by Meck77

Never have I gone on record for the support of sending Americans to death to protect the holy land.

You didn't mention "The Holy Land" in your post - you referred to "the last three years."

You also never went on record with any objection to the human and economic costs of two wars during the eight year period when Daddy's Little War Criminal occupied the WH.

All you did during that period was attack GeeDubya's critics, lecture folks about the futility of posting on message boards, and change the subject to football.

[Obushma]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

You didn't mention "The Holy Land" in your post - you referred to "the last three years."

You also never went on record with any objection to the human and economic costs of two wars during the eight year period when Daddy's Little War Criminal occupied the WH.

All you did during that period was attack GeeDubya's critics, lecture folks about the futility of posting on message boards, and change the subject to football.

Funny, we haven't heard **** outta your cakehole the past three years while Obama continues Bush foreign policy, while increasing civilian drone strikes.