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Old 04-17-2012, 11:59 AM   #1
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Default Can someone help me understand this schedule rotation?

I thought I had it down cold. Back in 2002, when the league realigned.....it was determined that (assuming you were an AFC team)....

1. You would rotate through the NFC division once every 4 years (as there are 4 of them, duh)

2. Rotate through the OTHER AFC division (don't count your own, duh) every 3 years.

3. Obviously play everyone in your own division every year (duh)

4. The other 2 games are against the 2 other AFC divisions (1 each) based on how you finish......

I get all that....

BUT.....the locations are supposed to flip too.....for example, this year we play everyone in the AFC North.....just like we did in 2009....but aren't the locations of those 4 games supposed to flip??

In 2009, we played at home vs. Pitt and Cleveland......and on the road vs. Baltimore and Cincy (Stokley's catch).

But in 2012.....the location are THE SAME. WTF ?!?! Any idea why we are (again) playing @ Baltimore and Cincy?...and not the other way around?
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:03 PM   #2
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what does it matter ?

if your trying to second guess that NFL do not waste your time..

They will do what they do..
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:07 PM   #3
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I thought I had it down cold. Back in 2002, when the league realigned.....it was determined that (assuming you were an AFC team)....

1. You would rotate through the NFC division once every 4 years (as there are 4 of them, duh)

2. Rotate through the OTHER AFC division (don't count your own, duh) every 3 years.

3. Obviously play everyone in your own division every year (duh)

4. The other 2 games are against the 2 other AFC divisions (1 each) based on how you finish......

I get all that....

BUT.....the locations are supposed to flip too.....for example, this year we play everyone in the AFC North.....just like we did in 2009....but aren't the locations of those 4 games supposed to flip??

In 2009, we played at home vs. Pitt and Cleveland......and on the road vs. Baltimore and Cincy (Stokley's catch).

But in 2012.....the location are THE SAME. WTF ?!?! Any idea why we are (again) playing @ Baltimore and Cincy?...and not the other way around?
Locations are to my knowledge independent of rotation.
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:15 PM   #4
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I thought I had it down cold. Back in 2002, when the league realigned.....it was determined that (assuming you were an AFC team)....

1. You would rotate through the NFC division once every 4 years (as there are 4 of them, duh)

2. Rotate through the OTHER AFC division (don't count your own, duh) every 3 years.

3. Obviously play everyone in your own division every year (duh)

4. The other 2 games are against the 2 other AFC divisions (1 each) based on how you finish......

I get all that....

BUT.....the locations are supposed to flip too.....for example, this year we play everyone in the AFC North.....just like we did in 2009....but aren't the locations of those 4 games supposed to flip??

In 2009, we played at home vs. Pitt and Cleveland......and on the road vs. Baltimore and Cincy (Stokley's catch).

But in 2012.....the location are THE SAME. WTF ?!?! Any idea why we are (again) playing @ Baltimore and Cincy?...and not the other way around?
Only thing I can think is that locking in the location of all of those games would maybe make the scheduling very difficult (in order to assure each team 8 home games)
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:21 PM   #5
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Perhaps locations are linked to SOS? Or even not mandated so as not to make it too hard to merge the 8 home and away criterion...
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I thought I had it down cold. Back in 2002, when the league realigned.....it was determined that (assuming you were an AFC team)....

1. You would rotate through the NFC division once every 4 years (as there are 4 of them, duh)

2. Rotate through the OTHER AFC division (don't count your own, duh) every 3 years.

3. Obviously play everyone in your own division every year (duh)

4. The other 2 games are against the 2 other AFC divisions (1 each) based on how you finish......

I get all that....

BUT.....the locations are supposed to flip too.....for example, this year we play everyone in the AFC North.....just like we did in 2009....but aren't the locations of those 4 games supposed to flip??

In 2009, we played at home vs. Pitt and Cleveland......and on the road vs. Baltimore and Cincy (Stokley's catch).

But in 2012.....the location are THE SAME. WTF ?!?! Any idea why we are (again) playing @ Baltimore and Cincy?...and not the other way around?
I'm with ya man. I've wondered the same thing for a couple of years. I was positive we were at Pittsburgh this year since they came here a couple of years ago
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This is the only place I have ever heard say the locations flip. I'm pretty sure you all just made this up.
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seems like we always play @ balt...
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I'm with ya man. I've wondered the same thing for a couple of years. I was positive we were at Pittsburgh this year since they came here a couple of years ago
Exactly. We were AT Pittsburg in 2006 (when Javon Walker had a monster game)....then they were here in 2009. Now I figured we'd be back there in 2012.

My only conclusion is that when the realignment happened in 2002....that was an 8 year "plan" for 2002 - 2009. With a new CBA now....perhaps they reversed the locations.....sort of like a "snaking" FF draft.
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Locations are to my knowledge independent of rotation.
Not true. For the scheduled slate for 2002-2009 they did, in fact, rotate.
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Not true. For the scheduled slate for 2002-2009 they did, in fact, rotate.
They may have a goal to rotate, but if you think about it, it's easy to come up with scenarios where it would be impossible to lock in locations with consistency.

Those two AFC games based on division standings, for instance. There's no way to know who those will be. It's possible the last time you played that team it was at home or away. What if both of those teams you got seeded against played at your house the last time, now you've got two away games and no easy way to balance them out.
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seems like we always play @ balt...
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They may have a goal to rotate, but if you think about it, it's easy to come up with scenarios where it would be impossible to lock in locations with consistency.

Those two AFC games based on division standings, for instance. There's no way to know who those will be. It's possible the last time you played that team it was at home or away. What if both of those teams you got seeded against played at your house the last time, now you've got two away games and no easy way to balance them out.
I just do not see waht the hoopla is all about..

SO we have to go somewhere two times in a row BFG..
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Just saw in twitter that we are going to open sunday night in denver vs the steelers
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They may have a goal to rotate, but if you think about it, it's easy to come up with scenarios where it would be impossible to lock in locations with consistency.

Those two AFC games based on division standings, for instance. There's no way to know who those will be. It's possible the last time you played that team it was at home or away. What if both of those teams you got seeded against played at your house the last time, now you've got two away games and no easy way to balance them out.
Yes.....except for the 2 "oddball" games.....the others were supposed to rotate location.

Oh well......some things can't be explained, I guess.
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seems like we always play @ balt...
I was thinking the opposite, but I think that's because I went to the 2005 & 2006 games. Looks like we're both wrong:

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The reason is that from 2002-09, the Broncos (and Chiefs) were in one schedule. In 2010, it became the Broncos-Raiders. So instead of repeating the same schedule as 2002-09, there were some changes (essentially, a re-start). No team could keep the same rotation, as they were changing the division team they were rotating with.

Hope that helps.
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Yes.....except for the 2 "oddball" games.....the others were supposed to rotate location.

Oh well......some things can't be explained, I guess.
So what, do they always split the 2 oddball games? 1 home, 1 away? Looks like that's what happened this year.
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NFL schedule is on an 8 year rotation so that every team hosts and travels to every other team in the NFL. The schedule "flipped" from the expected rotation as this is year 9 since this schedule rotation began. Games you thought would be away are now home, etc...for the next 8 years...barring expansion. That is all. No more.

Otherwise for home/away in the other 2 games, they are based solely on divisional finish vs the 2 remaining AFC divisions who we don't match up with each respective season...Even though the colts always play the pats and steelers, it's because they are always in first place. Some are part of the regular rotation. Some are from those other 2 TBD games based on divisional finish.

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Old 04-17-2012, 08:19 PM   #20
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With the exceptions of jhns and 27atwater, I facepalm at EVERYONE who made a nonsensical/half-assed/guess at how the NFL schedule works!

I also thought it worked off a 3yr AFC and 4yr NFC rotation of venues, so thanks to the last poster for putting me on the right track!
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