The Orange Mane -  a Denver Broncos Fan Community  

Go Back   The Orange Mane - a Denver Broncos Fan Community > Orange Mane Discussion > Orange Mane Central Discussion
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Chat Room Mark Forums Read



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-26-2014, 07:31 PM   #5476
broncosteven
Kranz Dictum
 
broncosteven's Avatar
 
AFC WEST CHAMPS Tough and Competent

Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Tranquility Base
Posts: 38,248

Adopt-a-Bronco:
CJ Anderson
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaylore View Post
The Raiders actually have a competent GM. It will be interesting to see how that translates over the next few years.

I fully expect the Chiefs to take a big step back this season. They won't get that string of sequential back up QB's again. And the lucky breaks will go away (a guy muffing a punt just when they need him to with no pressure.) They have also always been on a cycle of one good year and then a couple years of mediocrity or complete suck. Observe:

1998 7-9
1999 9-7
2000 7-9
2001 6-10
2002 8-8
2003 13-3
2004 7-9
2005 10-6
2006 9-7
2007 4-12
2008 2-14
2009 4-12
2010 10-6
2011 7-9
2012 2-14
2013 11-5
2014 - Based on Reid's coaching chops, they're unlikely to take a huge dump. But with a tough schedule, the loss of talent and no answers at their biggest holes like receiver, I'd wager 7-9 or 8-8. I'd be more shocked if they did better than that than if they did worse.
If Charles goes down early they could be picking another RT #1 over all again this year.

I could see them going 6-10 easy, 8-8 would take a lot of breaks. I just don't see the talent there to have a winning season in this division and with facing the NFC West.
broncosteven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2014, 07:36 PM   #5477
broncosteven
Kranz Dictum
 
broncosteven's Avatar
 
AFC WEST CHAMPS Tough and Competent

Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Tranquility Base
Posts: 38,248

Adopt-a-Bronco:
CJ Anderson
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KCStud View Post
So who is the better team right now? Who wins if they play tomorrow?
If they play tomorrow, kFc wins against Oaklands backup QB (right now they don't have a clear #1) I could see at the end of the year vs Oaklands starter kFc getting beat down.

There is not a whole lot of difference between them, neither has quality depth the only thing that gives kFc the nod right now is Charles and Reid's ability to call a 5 yard drag route 15 (or more) times a game.
broncosteven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2014, 08:49 PM   #5478
The Drunk Uncle
Just Drafted
 
New to the Forum

Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 4

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by broncosteven View Post
If they play tomorrow, kFc wins against Oaklands backup QB (right now they don't have a clear #1) I could see at the end of the year vs Oaklands starter kFc getting beat down.

There is not a whole lot of difference between them, neither has quality depth the only thing that gives kFc the nod right now is Charles and Reid's ability to call a 5 yard drag route 15 (or more) times a game.
Raiders finally have a GM, they are making good moves- I hate they got Mack.. dudes gonna win DROY... They upgraded in some key positions. We will win the West again, but right now, dont be surprised to see the Raiders give the Chiefs and Chargers a run for their money. I could see Oakland being a very strong team in 2 years if they keep up what they are doing. Derek Carr is gonna be a very good QB, the Faid got a steal getting him in rd 2
The Drunk Uncle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2014, 01:18 PM   #5479
Ragnar
Solid Starter
 
Ragnar's Avatar
 
hate them chiefs

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 104

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Von Miller
Default

Coming into this thread and typing:

The Chiefs Suck

Is almost carthartic isn't it?

How a once storied franchise could fall so far is a mystery to me, but here we are.. The Chiefs suck... and there's nothing their mullet head fans can do about it.
Ragnar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2014, 02:05 PM   #5480
baja
Headmaster
 
baja's Avatar
 
The Fixer

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: in the present moment
Posts: 61,298

Adopt-a-Bronco:
C J Anderson
Default

When were they "storied"?
baja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2014, 02:52 PM   #5481
Ragnar
Solid Starter
 
Ragnar's Avatar
 
hate them chiefs

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 104

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Von Miller
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by baja View Post
When were they "storied"?

The Late 60's to the early 70's the Cheifs were pretty terrifying. 3 AFL championships, Destroyed the Bears in the little AFL/NFL crossgame that we now call the "Super Bowl".

It happened so long ago, though, that you're probably not old enough to remember it.

Which is nice. I don't want to live in a world where the Chiefs don't suck. The Dickie V years were bad bad years for all of America.
Ragnar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2014, 02:56 PM   #5482
baja
Headmaster
 
baja's Avatar
 
The Fixer

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: in the present moment
Posts: 61,298

Adopt-a-Bronco:
C J Anderson
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragnar View Post
The Late 60's to the early 70's the Cheifs were pretty terrifying. 3 AFL championships, Destroyed the Bears in the little AFL/NFL crossgame that we now call the "Super Bowl".

It happened so long ago, though, that you're probably not old enough to remember it.

Which is nice. I don't want to live in a world where the Chiefs don't suck. The Dickie V years were bad bad years for all of America.
Still would not call that franchise "storied'

Storied is the Yankees, the Red Sox, The Celtics, the 49ers, the Lakers.

Even the Broncos are not in the "storied" category yet.
baja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2014, 02:57 PM   #5483
Gutless Drunk
Ring of Famer
 
Gutless Drunk's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 4,881

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default


Gutless Drunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2014, 03:09 PM   #5484
KCStud
Ring of Famer
 
KCStud's Avatar
 
AmeriStanzi!

Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 6,206

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by baja View Post
Still would not call that franchise "storied'

Storied is the Yankees, the Red Sox, The Celtics, the 49ers, the Lakers.

Even the Broncos are not in the "storied" category yet.
Steelers, packers, 49ers and Giants. Those are the teams I would say are storied.
KCStud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2014, 03:15 PM   #5485
Peoples Champ
Ring of Famer
 
Peoples Champ's Avatar
 
New to the Forum

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Orange County
Posts: 3,632

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Champ Bailey
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaylore View Post
The Raiders actually have a competent GM. It will be interesting to see how that translates over the next few years.

I fully expect the Chiefs to take a big step back this season. They won't get that string of sequential back up QB's again. And the lucky breaks will go away (a guy muffing a punt just when they need him to with no pressure.) They have also always been on a cycle of one good year and then a couple years of mediocrity or complete suck. Observe:

1998 7-9
1999 9-7
2000 7-9
2001 6-10
2002 8-8
2003 13-3
2004 7-9
2005 10-6
2006 9-7
2007 4-12
2008 2-14
2009 4-12
2010 10-6
2011 7-9
2012 2-14
2013 11-5
2014 - Based on Reid's coaching chops, they're unlikely to take a huge dump. But with a tough schedule, the loss of talent and no answers at their biggest holes like receiver, I'd wager 7-9 or 8-8. I'd be more shocked if they did better than that than if they did worse.

Wow, i knew the Chiefs were bad, but not that bad.
Peoples Champ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2014, 03:51 PM   #5486
KCStud
Ring of Famer
 
KCStud's Avatar
 
AmeriStanzi!

Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 6,206

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

The Raiders have a competent GM? Based on? And the Chiefs don't? Hell John Dorsey is 2-0 with double digit wins over the Raiders GM and got the Chiefs a winning record in his first year. Oakland hasn't had a winning record since 2002.

Is Gaylore just this stupid or is it low testosterone?
KCStud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2014, 04:35 PM   #5487
Tombstone RJ
Ring of Famer
 
Tombstone RJ's Avatar
 
Old School

Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: In the Tetons!
Posts: 22,347

Adopt-a-Bronco:
WorrellWilliams
Default

I wouldn't say oakland has a competent GM just because he's had one decent draft. Up to this point, he's sucked bad.
Tombstone RJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2014, 04:37 PM   #5488
Drunken.Broncoholic2
Pickled in orange & blue
 
Drunken.Broncoholic2's Avatar
 
OnLyNiNjAsCaNrEaDtHiSQuOtE

Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Carmel, Ca
Posts: 9,047

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KCStud View Post
Steelers, packers, 49ers and Giants. Those are the teams I would say are storied.
Giants? Packers? Steelers and Niners are the only 2 that should get that label.
Drunken.Broncoholic2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2014, 09:50 PM   #5489
KCStud
Ring of Famer
 
KCStud's Avatar
 
AmeriStanzi!

Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 6,206

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic2 View Post
Giants? Packers? Steelers and Niners are the only 2 that should get that label.
I guess I can see the Giants, but Packers? They have won SB's with different QB's in different decades, they have the most storied football stadium, their coach is the name of the trophy.
6 championships before the SB was made and 4 SB's in 5 appearances.

How is that not storied?
KCStud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2014, 10:03 PM   #5490
Drunken.Broncoholic2
Pickled in orange & blue
 
Drunken.Broncoholic2's Avatar
 
OnLyNiNjAsCaNrEaDtHiSQuOtE

Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Carmel, Ca
Posts: 9,047

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KCStud View Post
I guess I can see the Giants, but Packers? They have won SB's with different QB's in different decades, they have the most storied football stadium, their coach is the name of the trophy.
6 championships before the SB was made and 4 SB's in 5 appearances.

How is that not storied?
Ya I should've included them. Pretty tough to get that label though
Drunken.Broncoholic2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2014, 10:19 PM   #5491
Mile High Salute
Elway's Little Helper
 
Mile High Salute's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Mile High City, CO
Posts: 204

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Rahim Moore
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KCStud View Post
The Raiders have a competent GM? Based on? And the Chiefs don't? Hell John Dorsey is 2-0 with double digit wins over the Raiders GM and got the Chiefs a winning record in his first year. Oakland hasn't had a winning record since 2002.

Is Gaylore just this stupid or is it low testosterone?
Dude, have you been following the Chefs' offseason at all?
Mile High Salute is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2014, 10:20 PM   #5492
broncosteven
Kranz Dictum
 
broncosteven's Avatar
 
AFC WEST CHAMPS Tough and Competent

Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Tranquility Base
Posts: 38,248

Adopt-a-Bronco:
CJ Anderson
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutless Drunk View Post

If it was like a Chef game no one stayed to the end.
broncosteven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2014, 10:23 PM   #5493
broncosteven
Kranz Dictum
 
broncosteven's Avatar
 
AFC WEST CHAMPS Tough and Competent

Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Tranquility Base
Posts: 38,248

Adopt-a-Bronco:
CJ Anderson
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KCStud View Post
The Raiders have a competent GM? Based on? And the Chiefs don't? Hell John Dorsey is 2-0 with double digit wins over the Raiders GM and got the Chiefs a winning record in his first year. Oakland hasn't had a winning record since 2002.

Is Gaylore just this stupid or is it low testosterone?
Love how Studly has to pump up wins over the Raiders (double digit at that!) to make his GM sound competent.

Meanwhile Elway has managed to take his team to the SB within 3 years, recover from the Tebow and mCd era's, and go 11-1 vs the Division over the last 2 years.
broncosteven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2014, 10:08 AM   #5494
Paladin
Ring of Famer
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 9,395
Default

I really, really detest the Chiefs and their fans....

They seem so..........."challenged".
Paladin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2014, 01:39 PM   #5495
KCStud
Ring of Famer
 
KCStud's Avatar
 
AmeriStanzi!

Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 6,206

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by broncosteven View Post
Love how Studly has to pump up wins over the Raiders (double digit at that!) to make his GM sound competent.

Meanwhile Peyton Manning has managed to take his team to the SB within 3 years, recover from the Tebow and mCd era's, and go 11-1 vs the Division over the last 2 years.
FYP
KCStud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2014, 08:39 PM   #5496
Pick Six
Armchair Poster
 
Pick Six's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Topeka, KS
Posts: 22,791
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic2 View Post
Giants? Packers? Steelers and Niners are the only 2 that should get that label.
I would include the Cowboys, in that conversation.
Pick Six is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2014, 08:58 PM   #5497
The Drunk Uncle
Just Drafted
 
New to the Forum

Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 4

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KCStud View Post
The Raiders have a competent GM? Based on? And the Chiefs don't? Hell John Dorsey is 2-0 with double digit wins over the Raiders GM and got the Chiefs a winning record in his first year. Oakland hasn't had a winning record since 2002.

Is Gaylore just this stupid or is it low testosterone?
McKenzie has only had 3 drafts.. his 1st draft he didnt have a pick till rd 3, ..Cant really fault him there, last year he did well I thought.. Hayben Watson and Sio Moore.. And this year being his 1st year with a full draft I think dude had the best draft in the AFC West.. Khalil Mack, Carr, Gabe Jackson and I really like the value he got taking guys like Ellis and McGill and especially SS Dowling from West Kent- I hope they try and sneak him through to the PS.. what a steal for them
The Drunk Uncle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2014, 09:12 PM   #5498
baja
Headmaster
 
baja's Avatar
 
The Fixer

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: in the present moment
Posts: 61,298

Adopt-a-Bronco:
C J Anderson
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crushaholic View Post
I would include the Cowboys, in that conversation.
Unfortunately this is true.
baja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2014, 09:16 PM   #5499
Chrissy Rules
Ring of Famer
 
Chrissy Rules's Avatar
 
Git er done

Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Peyton's Place
Posts: 6,503

Adopt-a-Bronco:
PM OF COURSE
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by baja View Post
Unfortunately this is true.
not a fan but ya gotta love some Troy and E. Smith..and of course D.Ware..
Chrissy Rules is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2014, 09:18 PM   #5500
Drunken.Broncoholic2
Pickled in orange & blue
 
Drunken.Broncoholic2's Avatar
 
OnLyNiNjAsCaNrEaDtHiSQuOtE

Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Carmel, Ca
Posts: 9,047

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crushaholic View Post
I would include the Cowboys, in that conversation.
Cowboys had the label. But it's been years and years of stupidity, lack of playoff wins, and overrall horrible personnel moves that they are no longer storied IMO. Jerry Jones and Romo storied?
Drunken.Broncoholic2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:46 AM.


Denver Broncos