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Old 06-24-2014, 07:54 PM   #5426
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I was pointing that out all year and kept hearing about the dominant D and how great he was. It wasn't until the rumor broke that he was going to be cut that you jumped off his bandwagon.
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Old 06-24-2014, 08:01 PM   #5427
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I was pointing that out all year and kept hearing about the dominant D and how great he was. It wasn't until the rumor broke that he was going to be cut that you jumped off his bandwagon.
It didn't matter who KC lined up at cornerback, they sucked.
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Old 06-24-2014, 08:08 PM   #5428
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It didn't matter who KC lined up at cornerback, they sucked.
Unless there was a 3rd string QB starting for the 1st time in the NFL, then they were DOMINANT
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I fully intend to watch both KC/SD games and root for Brandon Flowers. KC couldn't have displayed less class. But that's what you get from an organization that sucks nearly as bad as the Raiders.
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I fully intend to watch both KC/SD games and root for Brandon Flowers. KC couldn't have displayed less class. But that's what you get from an organization that sucks nearly as bad as the Raiders.
Raiders offseason > chiefs offseason
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Old 06-24-2014, 09:55 PM   #5431
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Raiders offseason > chiefs offseason
Well sure, The Chiefs have had the worst offseason of any team in the last 10+ years. Superbowl Dynasties don't get gutted as hard as the Chiefs did in the last 90 days. A drunk homeless man is probably better equipped to make decisions for this team.
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I fully intend to watch both KC/SD games and root for Brandon Flowers. KC couldn't have displayed less class. But that's what you get from an organization that sucks nearly as bad as the Raiders.
How were they classless? He didn't want to show up for, and they decided to cut ties

Guess you could argue they should have given him more of a chance to experience free agency, but don't think their reasons were really classless. Tried to trade him, but since most teams suspected KC was going to cut him anyways, and there wasn't an interest on Flowers part to take a pay cut, KC wasn't going to get anything.

Don't get me wrong; I think the Chiefs badly misused him. They picked system over talent, which I'm never a big fan of.
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How were they classless? He didn't want to show up for, and they decided to cut ties

Guess you could argue they should have given him more of a chance to experience free agency, but don't think their reasons were really classless. Tried to trade him, but since most teams suspected KC was going to cut him anyways, and there wasn't an interest on Flowers part to take a pay cut, KC wasn't going to get anything.

Don't get me wrong; I think the Chiefs badly misused him. They picked system over talent, which I'm never a big fan of.
Flowers is like Dwayne Wade. He's slowing getting worse bc of injuries. He wasn't the same guy last year bc of that. He's still a good CB when he's healthy, but is that gonna happen? He's been fighting injuries the last 2 years, including that knee.
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Raiders offseason > chiefs offseason
Chiefs overall>raiders overall

Chiefs destroyed them both times last year. Hell records were set in both games the Raiders were so bad.
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Chiefs overall>raiders overall

Chiefs destroyed them both times last year. Hell records were set in both games the Raiders were so bad.
You guys barely beat the Raiders the one game. I think it was the first one.
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You guys barely beat the Raiders the one game. I think it was the first one.
Nah it wasn't that close. 24-7.

But what he's bringing up means zip all to what I said. It's not the same chiefs, nor is it the same raiders as who played in those games.

He's trying to deflect the fact one team improved, the other took a dump this offseason.
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Nah it wasn't that close. 24-7.

But what he's bringing up means zip all to what I said. It's not the same chiefs, nor is it the same raiders as who played in those games.

He's trying to deflect the fact one team improved, the other took a dump this offseason.
So who is the better team right now? Who wins if they play tomorrow?
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So who is the better team right now? Who wins if they play tomorrow?
Let's bet. I'll say raiders split with KC.

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Flowers is like Dwayne Wade. He's slowing getting worse bc of injuries. He wasn't the same guy last year bc of that. He's still a good CB when he's healthy, but is that gonna happen? He's been fighting injuries the last 2 years, including that knee.
I don't think his injuries would have mattered a whole lot. Reid prefers tall corners; he's obviously not that. He might have lost a step, but if he is healthy, San Diego got a good player. I think they definitely have at least the 2nd best CB's in the division. Might be the best if Talib can't stay healthy.
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Old 06-25-2014, 10:20 AM   #5440
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The Raiders actually have a competent GM. It will be interesting to see how that translates over the next few years.

I fully expect the Chiefs to take a big step back this season. They won't get that string of sequential back up QB's again. And the lucky breaks will go away (a guy muffing a punt just when they need him to with no pressure.) They have also always been on a cycle of one good year and then a couple years of mediocrity or complete suck. Observe:

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2014 - Based on Reid's coaching chops, they're unlikely to take a huge dump. But with a tough schedule, the loss of talent and no answers at their biggest holes like receiver, I'd wager 7-9 or 8-8. I'd be more shocked if they did better than that than if they did worse.
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Nah it wasn't that close. 24-7.

But what he's bringing up means zip all to what I said. It's not the same chiefs, nor is it the same raiders as who played in those games.

He's trying to deflect the fact one team improved, the other took a dump this offseason.
Well it was 7 to 14 until 2 min left in the game when KC kicked a fg and Pryor s 3rd second half INT went for a pick 6.
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Old 06-25-2014, 04:22 PM   #5442
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Oak improved alot this offseason.

Hard to say with KC, relying on alot of young guys.

Added some vets in FA and had a good draft landing Mack plus others.
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The Chiefs wont get to beat up on 3rd string QB's this year.. holy crap.. if there was ever a team that pulled a lucky card every sunday playing against a team missing its starting QB that week it was the Chiefs... Does anybody really give a damn about the Chiefs outside a 50 mile radius of KC? That team won 11 games and got 1 primetime mnf game.. every team gets a thursday night... hell the frekin raiders can win 4 games and get more prime time games then them

That team is just boring to watch... Seriously,
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The Raiders actually have a competent GM. It will be interesting to see how that translates over the next few years.

I fully expect the Chiefs to take a big step back this season. They won't get that string of sequential back up QB's again. And the lucky breaks will go away (a guy muffing a punt just when they need him to with no pressure.) They have also always been on a cycle of one good year and then a couple years of mediocrity or complete suck. Observe:

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2003 13-3
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2013 11-5
2014 - Based on Reid's coaching chops, they're unlikely to take a huge dump. But with a tough schedule, the loss of talent and no answers at their biggest holes like receiver, I'd wager 7-9 or 8-8. I'd be more shocked if they did better than that than if they did worse.
If Charles goes down early they could be picking another RT #1 over all again this year.

I could see them going 6-10 easy, 8-8 would take a lot of breaks. I just don't see the talent there to have a winning season in this division and with facing the NFC West.
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So who is the better team right now? Who wins if they play tomorrow?
If they play tomorrow, kFc wins against Oaklands backup QB (right now they don't have a clear #1) I could see at the end of the year vs Oaklands starter kFc getting beat down.

There is not a whole lot of difference between them, neither has quality depth the only thing that gives kFc the nod right now is Charles and Reid's ability to call a 5 yard drag route 15 (or more) times a game.
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If they play tomorrow, kFc wins against Oaklands backup QB (right now they don't have a clear #1) I could see at the end of the year vs Oaklands starter kFc getting beat down.

There is not a whole lot of difference between them, neither has quality depth the only thing that gives kFc the nod right now is Charles and Reid's ability to call a 5 yard drag route 15 (or more) times a game.
Raiders finally have a GM, they are making good moves- I hate they got Mack.. dudes gonna win DROY... They upgraded in some key positions. We will win the West again, but right now, dont be surprised to see the Raiders give the Chiefs and Chargers a run for their money. I could see Oakland being a very strong team in 2 years if they keep up what they are doing. Derek Carr is gonna be a very good QB, the Faid got a steal getting him in rd 2
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Coming into this thread and typing:

The Chiefs Suck

Is almost carthartic isn't it?

How a once storied franchise could fall so far is a mystery to me, but here we are.. The Chiefs suck... and there's nothing their mullet head fans can do about it.
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When were they "storied"?
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When were they "storied"?

The Late 60's to the early 70's the Cheifs were pretty terrifying. 3 AFL championships, Destroyed the Bears in the little AFL/NFL crossgame that we now call the "Super Bowl".

It happened so long ago, though, that you're probably not old enough to remember it.

Which is nice. I don't want to live in a world where the Chiefs don't suck. The Dickie V years were bad bad years for all of America.
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The Late 60's to the early 70's the Cheifs were pretty terrifying. 3 AFL championships, Destroyed the Bears in the little AFL/NFL crossgame that we now call the "Super Bowl".

It happened so long ago, though, that you're probably not old enough to remember it.

Which is nice. I don't want to live in a world where the Chiefs don't suck. The Dickie V years were bad bad years for all of America.
Still would not call that franchise "storied'

Storied is the Yankees, the Red Sox, The Celtics, the 49ers, the Lakers.

Even the Broncos are not in the "storied" category yet.
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