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Old 06-13-2014, 02:34 PM   #5301
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That would free up the dough needed to sign Flowers, but I don't see it happening. Still think we keep Tamme, PFM likes him and he's nice insurance in case of a JT or Welker injury.
I don't think Tamme is needed at this point. Lattimer should be a fine WR4, not to mention that Caldwell is a serviceable depth WR. The Broncos may decide to keep Green and Robinson instead of Tamme and Dreesen and save some money.

How much do you think Flowers gets on the open market? I would think somewhere around $6M would be fair, and I don't see him getting much more than that.

If the Broncos are serious about a championship, they need a RB, MLB, and another CB.
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Old 06-13-2014, 02:35 PM   #5302
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Broncos have 4.6 million worth of cap space according to over the cap. Flowers cap number is 10.5 this year.

Who are you cutting to get 6 million?
No, he is a free agent, his cap hit is 0 - at least to teams not based out of Kansas City.
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Old 06-13-2014, 02:36 PM   #5303
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Correct me if I am wrong but isn't flowers legs shot and he lost his speed?
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Old 06-13-2014, 02:40 PM   #5304
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I dont see us signing him unless he'd sign cheap to screw KC.

Between Roby, Talib, Harris, Webster, we got enough at CB.
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Old 06-13-2014, 02:45 PM   #5305
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Doubt they cut Tamme.

Dres will eventually be cut ala Mays.

Although i think if JT/DT get extensions, that may eat into some of our cap but between Talib, Harris, Roby, Webster, i like what we got at CB.

I mean, if he'd sign cheap to screw the Chiefs, sure, he'll likely want to start/play alot i'd presume.
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Old 06-13-2014, 02:45 PM   #5306
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Old 06-13-2014, 02:46 PM   #5307
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Clearly but with the cap they have to pick and choose where they spend. Just signing DT may drain what is left. Not saying Flowers would not be an improvement but is it the wisest position to spend. What do you think Flowers market value is?
DT's contract has nothing to do with picking up Flowers. And yes it is a wise position unless you don't remember the super bowl when we had no the but backups playing in the secondary. He would probably be worth around what Cromartie got with the Cards. 1 year 3.2 million.
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Old 06-13-2014, 02:47 PM   #5309
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Correct me if I am wrong but isn't flowers legs shot and he lost his speed?
No he didn't fit the system.
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If the Broncos are serious about a championship, they need a RB, MLB, and another CB.
They could use a vet RB for sure.

MLB, meh.

CB for the vet minimum, they dont need to pay 6 mil for a #3 CB maybe.
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Old 06-13-2014, 02:58 PM   #5311
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I love Chris Harris.

Doubt Denver looks to sign him. If it was a cheap, 1 year deal, great. But he doesn't likely start here.
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Old 06-13-2014, 04:10 PM   #5312
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http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-...-cb-chiefs-had

"At cornerback the Chiefs are left with only veteran Sean Smith as a proven commodity, and though Smith is an adequate starter, he's not a No. 1. Their other starter in the offseason has been Marcus Cooper, a seventh-round draft pick last year by the San Francisco 49ers. The Chiefs grabbed him off waivers at the start of last season and he played well for a time as their third cornerback.

By season's end, his play had deteriorated to the point the Chiefs felt compelled to move him to the bench.

The other cornerbacks currently contending for playing time are Ron Parker, a journeyman who has been beaten several times in offseason practice, Chris Owens, a 5-9 nickel back, and rookie Phillip Gaines, a third-round draft pick who so far has shown little."

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Old 06-13-2014, 04:16 PM   #5313
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It's like they plan to tank for the next 3 years.
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Old 06-13-2014, 04:20 PM   #5314
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That FO and Andy the Walrus sure are bright!
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I read the Gaines was practicing at safety in certain packages.
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"At cornerback the Chiefs are left with only veteran Sean Smith as a proven commodity, and though Smith is an adequate starter, he's not a No. 1. Their other starter in the offseason has been Marcus Cooper, a seventh-round draft pick last year by the San Francisco 49ers. The Chiefs grabbed him off waivers at the start of last season and he played well for a time as their third cornerback.

By season's end, his play had deteriorated to the point the Chiefs felt compelled to move him to the bench.

The other cornerbacks currently contending for playing time are Ron Parker, a journeyman who has been beaten several times in offseason practice, Chris Owens, a 5-9 nickel back, and rookie Phillip Gaines, a third-round draft pick who so far has shown little."

Looking forward to seeing a lot more of Marcus Cooper. Manning was able to target Cooper all day last year.
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So why did they release Flowers?

Did he kill someone?

Edit: Looks like he isn't good for their "scheme" -- way to go KC!
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It's like they plan to tank for the next 3 years.
Honestly, a popular growing mantra among them is "Once Manning retires..."
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So why did they release Flowers?

Did he kill someone?

Edit: Looks like he isn't good for their "scheme" -- way to go KC!
Money, plain and simple especially with Alex/Houston/Berry due big deals soon, and eventually Poe.

Didnt fit their scheme, i woulda probably done it early in the offseason before FA began so they had a little more cap to work with.
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Old 06-13-2014, 05:08 PM   #5320
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Former Chiefs GM Scott Pioli had the same reaction now as when he was with the Chiefs:

Pioli: "Kansas City, tell me how my d*** tastes."
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Old 06-13-2014, 05:20 PM   #5321
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It's a bad sign when you cut one of your better players because he doesn't fit your scheme vs making your scheme fit your players.

This is the type of move McD would have made.

On the bright side, KC can now afford to sign Alex Smith to a long term deal, so they've got that goin for them.
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Old 06-13-2014, 05:21 PM   #5322
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Old 06-13-2014, 05:22 PM   #5323
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The Broncos should sign him so they can make it 33-8 next time instead of 43-8.
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Old 06-13-2014, 05:28 PM   #5325
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The Broncos should sign and said they can make it 33-8 next time instead of 43-8.
is this your prediction for Broncos/Chefs or are you predicting Denver is playing in the Super Bowl again? ::slightly confused::
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